Hustling01
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Could it be revenge? Someone liked the daughter and janet said no and that person took revenge? One of the builders sons? School friend etc
depends on his motivation tho. If she was killed for a reason he wouldnt have a reason to go on to kill againHe could have moved abroad at some point but that's probably unlikely.
Hard to see him not committing more crimes if he had the chance though.
IMO the fairly isolated location suggests an older offender.Could it be revenge? Someone liked the daughter and janet said no and that person took revenge? One of the builders sons? School friend etc
I can't see this as a contract killing. Paul Britton thought this was a sexually motivated murder and that the offender would probably re-offend.depends on his motivation tho. If she was killed for a reason he wouldnt have a reason to go on to kill again
Interesting sentence from this article -DO YOU KNOW THE COOL KILLER WHO BATTERED JANET TO DEATH? - Free Online Library
This article says only four or five people knew Roxanne would be away that night. Fairly easy for police to ask them for alibis and check them out.
Yes i think the killer had been watching janet and roxanne for quite some time, likely had some knowledge of the layout of the house (he brought a glass cutter yet you cannot see the glass patio doors externally from the house as they are in an enclosed courtyard around the back, i did post a photo further upthread).I agree. I have read that Janet Brown used to sleep naked, but I think few women would just drop their dressing gown on the floor.
It's possible she put it there, for when she had to get up and she didn't want to walk across the room naked. (Her children might enter the room-I know she was alone that night, but people form habits.) But wouldn't she put it on a nearby chair or something, rather than on the floor? To say that she let it drop on the floor is presuming a lot.
It is a mystery whether or not she heard the glass being broken and, if so, why she didn't dial 999 straight away. (The reconstruction seems to show that there was a phone in the bedroom.)
I agree that it was a sexual thing. What other reason for the intrusion can there be, given that nothing was stolen and it was an unlikely time for a burglary? (I think that the intruder expected that Roxanne would be there too.) Who knows what the intruder forced Janet Brown to do? Quite possibly he intended to murder his victim(s), either to prevent their identifying him to the police or as part of his fantasy or whatever else was going through his mind.
This case plays on my mind. I know the Chilterns well and have driven down the narrow road where Janet Brown lived.
It was Roxanne's friend who had just passed her test. Roxanne's driving lesson was in the morning. I think she didn't know about the sleepover until later in the day.Yes i think the killer had been watching janet and roxanne for quite some time, likely had some knowledge of the layout of the house (he brought a glass cutter yet you cannot see the glass patio doors externally from the house as they are in an enclosed courtyard around the back, i did post a photo further upthread).
Another thing i thought about, was roxanne had passed her driving test (or her friend had) and that was the reason for celebrating that night out with her friends but I'm wondering if she told the driving instructor her plans? Would the driving instructor therefore know Janet was alone that night? Also the driving instructors car might not look out of place parked up the road if roxanne had been having lessons over the last few months.
I tend to agree that he knew about the courtyard.He might have only discovered that courtyard on the day he broke in, but I think he more likely already knew about it. On a day when Janet was at work and Roxanne was at school he would have been able to inspect the rear of the house at leisure.
Yes that's a good point about the estate agents creating leaflets with floor plans of the house. The fact they took glass cutters with them, but then cut a double glazed window and gave up after the first pane, shows they had some knowledge of the house but not enough to know the window was double glazed.It was Roxanne's friend who had just passed her test. Roxanne's driving lesson was in the morning. I think she didn't know about the sleepover until later in the day.
I agree that the murderer probably knew a certain amount about Janet and Roxanne. I also agree that, one way or another, he knew a certain amount about the house. Many houses have patio doors at the rear and I think there were some other patio type windows at the rear of the house that could be cut. But the courtyard, where he did cut the glass, could not be seen from either the front or the rear. He would be unlikely to be seen by anyone other than someone in the room on the other side of the glass. He might have only discovered that courtyard on the day he broke in, but I think he more likely already knew about it. On a day when Janet was at work and Roxanne was at school he would have been able to inspect the rear of the house at leisure. The estate agent might have produced leaflets showing the layout of the house. Even without being on a list of people who had been shown around the house, the intruder could have seen a leaflet about the house, without his details being recorded by the estate agent.
Perhaps he knew the window would be double glazed, but thought he could cut through both panes in a couple of minutes.The fact they took glass cutters with them, but then cut a double glazed window and gave up after the first pane, shows they had some knowledge of the house but not enough to know the window was double glazed.
Good thinking. Although it was a quiet road and dark when he left, if he had left by the front door he would have been exposed while leaving the house and driveway before getting into the road. Someone in a passing vehicle could have seen him. Even once on the road (which had no pavement), it would have been fairly clear that he had just left the house, until he got some distance away. If he left through the smashed window that might account for glass being outside of the window because he pushed through the hole. He could then have walked parallel to the road, but behind hedges etc until he reached a point level with his parked car (assuming that it was his car that was seen parked in the off road area known as the tri angle).I wonder if he also leaves via the patio doors, hence glass apparently being inside and outside the property.
I think we should look through the local geography and work out the distances involved.He could then have walked parallel to the road, but behind hedges etc until he reached a point level with his parked car (assuming that it was his car that was seen parked in the off road area known as the tri angle).