UK - Joyce Wilshaw, 91, and Karen Wilshaw, 63, Cheadle, Staffordshire, Murder Investigation, New Year's Eve 2023

[Tortoise]

"Joyce Wilshaw, 91, was killed alongside Karen Wilshaw, 63, at their large dorma bungalow in Cheadle, Staffs on New Year’s Eve.

Police had been called to the property upmarket Park Lane at 3pm to reports a woman’s body had been found and another woman was injured.

They were pronounced dead 50 minutes later.

A man aged 68 has been arrested on suspicion of two counts of murder. He remained in custody yesterday.

"Karen's partner Ralph Harrison, 68, also lived at the Cheadle property"

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On Monday morning, a section of Park Lane remained sealed off by police.

A number of white-suited forensics officers could be seen going in and out of the property while a white police tent was in place at the back. Two cars, a white Mercedes and a silver Volvo, were parked outside the front.

Post-mortem examinations were due to be carried out today ( 2 January).

Staffordshire Police appealed for anyone with information or doorbell or dash am footage to come forward.’"

Pictured: Widowed pensioner, 91, who was found dead at home

A murder investigation is underway after an elderly woman and her daughter were found dead at their home in Cheadle on New Year's Eve.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Tortoise]

A 68-year-old man, who was arrested on suspicion of two counts of murder, has been released under investigation, as police continue their inquiries.

Police said detectives "are keeping an open mind regarding the circumstances" that led to the incident, and have reiterated their call for anyone in the Park Lane area between 6:15am and 3:15pm on Saturday to come forward.

[...]

Several white-suited forensics officers could be seen going in and out of the property, with a silver Volvo on the driveway later removed by police.

The force has created an online portal where people can leave information and any CCTV, smart doorbell or dashcam footage that they may have.

https://www.itv.com/news/central/2024-01-02/mum-and-daughter-who-died-in-cheadle-on-new-years-eve-named-by-police

 

[Dpdan]

Don't you love when they tell you who the suspected perp is without saying so! RIP Karen and Joyce.

 

[TexLil]

Truly horrible. I wonder what the relationship was between the women. Perhaps family... Or perhaps we have an elder scam for money here. MOO!

 

[Tortoise]

Truly horrible. I wonder what the relationship was between the women. Perhaps family... Or perhaps we have an elder scam for money here. MOO!

They were mother and daughter.

 

[dotr]

Pictured: Mum, 91, and daughter, 63, 'murdered' in Cheadle home

Mother-and-daughter Joyce and Karen Wilshaw were found dead at their Cheadle home on New Year's Eve

www.stokesentinel.co.uk

''StokeonTrentLive understands that Joyce had lived in the property with her husband for a number of years. But he died more than a decade ago and Karen and her partner have lived at the property for almost a decade.

Residents have told how wheelchair-bound Joyce would regularly be pushed into Cheadle town centre by Karen. Karen was a member at Leek Golf Club.

Staffordshire Police are continuing to appeal for witnesses following the tragedy. Anyone with any information which could assist the double murder probe should call the police on 101, quoting incident number 340 of December 31, or call Crimestoppers, anonymously, on 0800 555111.''

 

[MollyHarps]

A 68-year-old man, who was arrested on suspicion of two counts of murder, has been released under investigation, as police continue their inquiries.

Police said detectives "are keeping an open mind regarding the circumstances" that led to the incident, and have reiterated their call for anyone in the Park Lane area between 6:15am and 3:15pm on Saturday to come forward.

[...]

Several white-suited forensics officers could be seen going in and out of the property, with a silver Volvo on the driveway later removed by police.

The force has created an online portal where people can leave information and any CCTV, smart doorbell or dashcam footage that they may have.

https://www.itv.com/news/central/2024-01-02/mum-and-daughter-who-died-in-cheadle-on-new-years-eve-named-by-police

I saw this case on the news today - once I heard a 68 year old had been arrested I thought this was a straight forward double murder case.

However, him being released pending further investigation suggests it’s not so clear what happened.

I wonder if it’s a possible murder suicide or suicide pact situation all moo of course.

 

[Tortoise]

"Police investigating the deaths of two women at a house in Staffordshire have said they are not looking to make any more arrests.

A man detained on suspicion of murder after the bodies of Joyce Wilshaw and daughter Karen Wilshaw were found faced no further action, police said."

[...]

Cheadle deaths: No more arrests sought

A man arrested following the deaths of Joyce and Karen Wilshaw faced no further action, police said.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Tortoise]

"Post mortem examinations have shown that Ms Wilshaw died as a result of multiple traumatic injuries and her mum died as a result of blunt force trauma to the head.

Further tests are due to take place."

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https://www.itv.com/news/central/2024-01-10/mum-and-daughter-found-dead-with-traumatic-injuries-on-new-years-eve

 

[Tortoise]

FULL POLICE STATEMENT -

Post mortem examinations have taken place following the death of two women in Cheadle.

Karen Wilshaw, and her mother, Joyce Wilshaw, were both found unresponsive with significant injuries at a house on Park Lane, Cheadle, at approximately 3pm on 31 December 2023. Despite the efforts of paramedics and officers, both women were pronounced dead at approximately 3.50pm.

The provisional cause of death shows that 63-year-old, Karen, died as a result of multiple traumatic injuries, and 91-year-old, Joyce, died as a result of blunt force trauma to the head. Further tests are due to take place.

A 68-year-old man, who was arrested, then released under investigation, has now been released with no further action.

While we are investigating the exact circumstances of Karen and Joyce’s death, we are not seeking the arrest of any further suspect.

Karen and Joyce’s next of kin continues to be supported by specialist officers.

https://www.staffordshire.police.uk/news/staffordshire/news/2024/january/update-after-two-women-died-in-cheadle/

 

[MollyHarps]

FULL POLICE STATEMENT -

Post mortem examinations have taken place following the death of two women in Cheadle.

Karen Wilshaw, and her mother, Joyce Wilshaw, were both found unresponsive with significant injuries at a house on Park Lane, Cheadle, at approximately 3pm on 31 December 2023. Despite the efforts of paramedics and officers, both women were pronounced dead at approximately 3.50pm.

The provisional cause of death shows that 63-year-old, Karen, died as a result of multiple traumatic injuries, and 91-year-old, Joyce, died as a result of blunt force trauma to the head. Further tests are due to take place.

A 68-year-old man, who was arrested, then released under investigation, has now been released with no further action.

While we are investigating the exact circumstances of Karen and Joyce’s death, we are not seeking the arrest of any further suspect.

Karen and Joyce’s next of kin continues to be supported by specialist officers.

https://www.staffordshire.police.uk/news/staffordshire/news/2024/january/update-after-two-women-died-in-cheadle/

Oh goodness - it sounds that I was probably right regarding a murder suicide.

I feel sorry for the 68 year old man whom I believe was Karen’s husband - in a time of immense sadness and grieving he’s been having to fight for his innocence.

I hope he now gets to grieve in peace.

 

[ms_x_to_the_m]

FULL POLICE STATEMENT -

Post mortem examinations have taken place following the death of two women in Cheadle.

Karen Wilshaw, and her mother, Joyce Wilshaw, were both found unresponsive with significant injuries at a house on Park Lane, Cheadle, at approximately 3pm on 31 December 2023. Despite the efforts of paramedics and officers, both women were pronounced dead at approximately 3.50pm.

The provisional cause of death shows that 63-year-old, Karen, died as a result of multiple traumatic injuries, and 91-year-old, Joyce, died as a result of blunt force trauma to the head. Further tests are due to take place.

A 68-year-old man, who was arrested, then released under investigation, has now been released with no further action.

While we are investigating the exact circumstances of Karen and Joyce’s death, we are not seeking the arrest of any further suspect.

Karen and Joyce’s next of kin continues to be supported by specialist officers.

https://www.staffordshire.police.uk/news/staffordshire/news/2024/january/update-after-two-women-died-in-cheadle/

wow, i wonder if they got into an altercation and then decided on suicide after seeing what they had done. It;s all very strange wording.

 

[jellybeanz]

So the two elderly women battered each other to death?

Sounds improbable.

 

[dalsglen]

I cannot comprehend what happened here.

 

[Dpdan]

Yes, the 'full police statement' is not exactly full of information.