UK UK - Serial killer preying on elderly couples, could be on the loose since mid-1990's

[Rookie D]

Get hold of David Collins book if you can. He was The Times journalist who broke the story.

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Thank you.

I ordered the book and it's due next week.


Think it may contain some very interesting data indeed.

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

Thank you.

I ordered the book and it's due next week.


Think it may contain some very interesting data indeed.

I have too. Sales must be going up!

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

I’ve listened to The Times podcast on this case from May 2022. 4 things;

1) Both female victims in the Wilmslow cases had their nighties lifted to expose them. IMO this is no coincidence. The perpetrator was trying to humiliate both these poor women even in death. The level of violence towards both women would suggest the perpetrator has a hatred towards women. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the perpetrator was single and had very few relationships with women.

2) The post-mortem for Mr Ainsworth showed unexplained injuries to his face and lips suggesting someone had covered his mouth with their hand.

3) Mr Ward had what appeared to be defensive injuries to his hands from what looked to be a knife attack.

4) It also mentions that the Police did have a suspect. I shall quote the podcast here;

“Let me be really careful here. There is a suspect that the police are aware of.
Whether or not that suspect will ever be properly investigated is another matter.”

 

[MsMiniSleuth]

Not directly but I probably need to read David Collins book to get more background information. The deaths in the Davyhulme & Didsbury cases appear to have occurred on a Monday should that be relevant.

I have the book if you have any questions I might find in it...

 

[MsMiniSleuth]

Not directly but I probably need to read David Collins book to get more background information. The deaths in the Davyhulme & Didsbury cases appear to have occurred on a Monday should that be relevant.

I have the book if you have any questions I might find in it.

I’ve listened to The Times podcast on this case from May 2022. 4 things;

1) Both female victims in the Wilmslow cases had their nighties lifted to expose them. IMO this is no coincidence. The perpetrator was trying to humiliate both these poor women even in death. The level of violence towards both women would suggest the perpetrator has a hatred towards women. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the perpetrator was single and had very few relationships with women.

2) The post-mortem for Mr Ainsworth showed unexplained injuries to his face and lips suggesting someone had covered his mouth with their hand.

3) Mr Ward had what appeared to be defensive injuries to his hands from what looked to be a knife attack.

4) It also mentions that the Police did have a suspect. I shall quote the podcast here;

“Let me be really careful here. There is a suspect that the police are aware of.
Whether or not that suspect will ever be properly investigated is another matter.”

Who said that about the suspect? Not heard that one before.

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

I have the book if you have any questions I might find in it.


Who said that about the suspect? Not heard that one before.

The author of the book.

 

[dotr]

30 Aug 2020

Confidential report names prime suspect of a potential North West serial killer

He strongly denies any involvement

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Top left: Eileen and Kenneth Martin; top right: Violet Higgins; bottom left: Auriel and Donald Ward; bottom right: Michael Higgins(Image: M.E.N.)
''The prime suspect in the case of a potential serial killer feared to have been preying on elderly couples since the 1990s has been named in a confidential report.

'According to a document seen by The Sunday Times, similarities between five murder suicides in the north west mean they could have been the work of the same killer.'
The 179-page report, written by the senior coroner’s officer for Cheshire, identifies a male suspect, the ST reports.''
''He lives in the north, the ST reports, but cannot be named for legal reasons and strongly denies any involvement.''

 

[Rookie D]

I now have the book by DC.

It's an excellent read (thus far) and provides some very interesting context.

It seems absolutely astonishing how anyone could consider these crimes as anything other than murder.

The most concerning aspect of this case IMO, is why the police appear to have gone down the path of murder-suicide and not seen through the theatrics of the killer.

It makes me wonder whether at some point the real killer couldn't quite believe his luck in realising the police had make a huge mistake. It beggars belief how these murders were never taken seriously.

Perhaps the age of the victims played a part in the confirmation bias of the investigative team who worked on the case.

What other reason would the police have for not investigating the killings properly?


Unless the killer was an ex-cop, then I see no viable reason to try and brush it all under the carpet.

Utterly baffling.

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

I’m part way through the book The Hunt for the Silver Killer. The Ainsworth’s & Wards were patients at the same surgery in Wilmslow.

I do wonder whether the Ainsworth’s & Wards knew each other? Did anyone investigate if there was a common connection between the two couples. A club perhaps? Still haven’t read whether both couples were church members?

JMO but I still feel any perpetrator knew these couples directly or indirectly through another family member and was probably aged in the 45-55 bracket. As I’ve said before someone who had a morbid interest in death and a strong hatred of women due to some form of sexual repression. Was it a mother thing, perhaps they were an only child? They clearly knew the area as the Wards lived in a very secluded road. JMO but I feel they had murdered before but not in the same fashion.

 

[Kemug]

I can't imagine there will ever be any outcome here - it's all been moving so slowly, if at all.

 

[Rookie D]

I think this is a case that could have been solved, but like so many other cold cases; if the police have been stubborn enough in the past to rule it out as an authentic murder, then there's no desire for the case to progress any further.

Generally speaking, senior ranked police officers seldom admit they're wrong, regardless of whether a killer walks.

It then becomes a matter of trying to save face, rather than look to right the wrongs of the past.

 

[Lord Peter Flimsy]

Following on from my earlier post today I’ve now reached Chapter 14 of the book. Apologies to those who haven’t read it yet.

Stephanie Davies the Senior Coroner thought the perpetrator (and I quote from the book) ‘would choose adult females from his own age group or older because they were representative of a dominant female in his life whom he perceived to be the root cause of his problems” and ‘he might be triggered to commit a murder due to a recent event associated with the dominant female in his life’.

I had been thinking along exactly the same lines before reading that. If the perpetrator was in his 50s at the time of the Wilmslow deaths his mother would likely be in her 70s. Did something happen to his mother (or his father) around 1996 that unleashed this pent up homicidal anger? I’m still sticking to the perpetrator being an only child.

I also still believe this was a highly educated individual who thought he could easily outwit any Police investigation. JMO