Found Deceased UT-5 -Year-Old Elizabeth Shelley Found Deceased (UNCLE ARRESTED) #3

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  • #881
Can someone tell me if he can still plead not guilty when he’s given information in exchange for the dp being dropped?
 
  • #882
I find it very telling out of all the statements he likely made, LE included this one regarding his sister and boyfriend being horny in the charging documents. I am very interested in their take on this...did he just sexualize the situation in his own mind? Very sick individual.

Welcome to Websleuths @DTPeke !

I agree, I think AW is good at placing blame and accountability on everyone other then himself.

MOO
 
  • #883
Yeah, I agree. Didn’t like boy stuff? How about son stuff! Jeeze! What is wrong with people!
I meant to add: that no matter how much a patient blames his parents, his up-bringing, how horrible his life was/is for what he does and/or did... he/she is always emphatically reminded that as an adult/adolescent, only he/she is responsible for his actions and his happiness. (Unless the patient is psychotic, of course.)

Nor is being diagnosed a sociopath or a psychopath or an alcoholic/addict valid excuses.
 
  • #884
Yes, I so agree, Massy!

It's also in line with exactly what I mentioned even earlier today about AW being more likely to give LE information in exchange for some type of deal than to confess anything to a family member.

Indeed, it's all about himself.
In his own mind, anyway.

Nobody else shares his sentiments.

JMO.
Too bad Elizabeth didn't get the DP taken off for her.
Coward only thinking about his own neck?
MOO.
 
  • #885
He was paving the way. The evidence is going to show she was sexually assaulted, I'm convinced of that.
I agree.
 
  • #886
He was paving the way. The evidence is going to show she was sexually assaulted, I'm convinced of that.
I agree. I think the motive was sexual. This is only the start of the investigation. Moo
 
  • #887
The fact that the skirt she was last reported to have been wearing was found during the investigation vs on her today when they discovered her body makes me wonder about a few things....

The details he gave about that evening are also a bit odd.... Saying either his sister or her boyfriend mentioned they were horny, then went off to bed and he could hear them having sex. It's an odd focal point for him to have considering everything else that transpired afterwards that evening.
 
  • #888
That’s exactly what I mentioned earlier, that the death penalty was probably used as leverage to get him to give up her body.

All about himself.

Sicko.

Yep, he seemed to be concerned about that early on. Kudos though to the Attorney, it sounded like he laid out all the evidence they had and pointed him to the right decision. If that was indeed the case, we need to refer Derion Vence to him. He's looking for an Attorney, his quit today!!
 
  • #889
He was paving the way. The evidence is going to show she was sexually assaulted, I'm convinced of that.

Sadly I think this too
 
  • #890
It’s enough AW murdered Lizzy. I’m still holding out hope that AW did NOT SA her, too. Until that is confirmed, by LE, one way or the other, I will remain hopeful...
Also, is it possible for an addict to die from their withdrawal symptoms? I’m just asking....
MOO
 
  • #891
Can someone tell me if he can still plead not guilty when he’s given information in exchange for the dp being dropped?

He sure can and I expect he will. I don’t see him sparing the family a horrifying trial. He’ll plead not guilty, have a trial in an attempt to reduce his sentence. moo
 
  • #892
I read it. But I don't take it as factual. He's a murderer setting the stage of his crime. He presents it as his sister and boyfriend were acting all aggressively horny and he had to leave to not hear them. I just don't buy what he's selling. There are always some elements of truth in what someone like this chooses to share regarding what happened. But I don't believe it's the way he presents it personally. JMO

Oh, I agree with you! But when people start making comments about HIM being horny so he took a 5 year old girl it makes it sound like that's what he actually said and people will run with that.
 
  • #893
Welcome to Websleuths @DTPeke !

I agree, I think AW is good at placing blame and accountability on everyone other then himself.

MOO
Thank you for the welcome! Learning how to post.

I am so sick of these losers (it seems to be a certain age group or mentality where they think they are owed something). From the looks of it on SM/FB his family was supportive. Makes me very sad.
 
  • #894
It’s enough AW murdered Lizzy. I’m still holding out hope that AW did NOT SA her, too. Until that is confirmed, by LE, one way or the other, I will remain hopeful...
Also, is it possible for an addict to die from their withdrawal symptoms? I’m just asking....
MOO

Yes. There have been deaths in at least one of our "local" prisons here from this very thing.
 
  • #895
Too bad Elizabeth didn't get the DP taken off for her.
Coward only thinking about his own neck?
MOO.

This was my first thought! He's afraid of the death penalty as a "grown man" but served it to a little girl no problem. What a pathetic sack of 🤬🤬🤬🤬.
 
  • #896
He sure can and I expect he will. I don’t see him sparing the family a horrifying trial. He’ll plead not guilty, have a trial in an attempt to reduce his sentence. moo


Thank you and oh gosh
 
  • #897
ETA: Really feel for searchers/LE -- can't say they did not look at every angle.

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Strong police presence at the transfer station this morning in Cache County. Officials in white suits going through garbage. #FindElizabeth @KUTV2News https://kutv.com/news/local/uncle-of-missing-elizabeth-shelley-charged-with-aggravated-murder-kidnapping …

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  • #898
Backstroke10,- I think you just confused the Maleah Davis case- that case involved the boyfriend and hit us hard.. I get confused all the time.
That’s the one! Thanks lucylulu! Clearly should have posted it over there. :(:rolleyes:o_O I can totally see why everyone was like WTH is she babbling on about, talking about by blaming the mother and BFs. :rolleyes: THANKS EVERYONE FOR BEING SO NICE!!! :) I promise I won’t babble on again on this thread.
 
  • #899
Yes. There have been deaths in at least one of our "local" prisons here from this very thing.
Thank you, TTF14...that’s comforting (in this particular situation)......
MOO
 
  • #900
He was in a suicide smock in his mugshot, I’m sure he’ll remain on watch in county lock up. Once he’s transferred to state & gets thru orientation, I doubt it. I don’t think they care...honestly. County jail is dif, their job is to keep the incarcerated person alive, available for trial & jailers dislike deaths in his facility & the red tape that follows.
I’d say AW was back in his smock as soon as he finished with court yesterday. Jmo
Well, they found poor Lizzie, take the smock off.
 
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