UT UT - Ellsworth Wilson Mielke, 33, Salt Lake City, 25 Aug 1947

[MyJoey]

585UMPA

I know it’s most likely not him but reminds me of Mr. Bones. These old cases makes me crazy, who and where are they.

 

[Quoththeraven]

All of these points were addressed previously in this thread.

1. Correct. He went missing after returning to work, telling his boss he felt ill.

2. His personal vehicle was later found parked at Lagoon. The police traced it back to his house/wife. She explained he had been missing for a month. She explained that he had black out spells before and thought it was just like before and he would return.

3. The death certificate is riddled with errors. His name is Even spelled incorrectly. I don't think he'd misspell his own name. The signatures between the two documents also do not match. Therefore, it cannot be for certain he was the "informant". As pointed out up thread, back in the 1940's, these drivers were sometimes called chauffers. Literally chauffeuring the gasoline in Ellsworth's case. If you look up the Gould Gasoline company he worked for, there is a mention about a "Truckers and Chauffers Union" as well.

It's pretty clear he wasn't the informant on 30 Sep 1947 since he went missing in August. BTW, that is a cursive misspelled signature under Informant. This leaves open the possibility that someone was impersonating him and didn't know how old he was nor how he spelled his name.

Blackout spells, also known as fainting or syncope, typically last a few seconds to a few minutes. No one has black out spells that last a month and then she uses that as a reason not to notify the police he was missing for a month? Sketchy.

On the stillborn death certificate it states his age as 31 years. He was 26 when he signed his draft card on 16 Oct 1940. He was born July 14, 1914. He was age 33 in 1947, not 31.

Lots of red flags, IMO.

 

[alb1on]

All of these points were addressed previously in this thread.

1. Correct. He went missing after returning to work, telling his boss he felt ill.

2. His personal vehicle was later found parked at Lagoon. The police traced it back to his house/wife. She explained he had been missing for a month. She explained that he had black out spells before and thought it was just like before and he would return.

3. The death certificate is riddled with errors. His name is Even spelled incorrectly. I don't think he'd misspell his own name. The signatures between the two documents also do not match. Therefore, it cannot be for certain he was the "informant". As pointed out up thread, back in the 1940's, these drivers were sometimes called chauffers. Literally chauffeuring the gasoline in Ellsworth's case. If you look up the Gould Gasoline company he worked for, there is a mention about a "Truckers and Chauffers Union" as well.

I am not even sure his signature is on the certificate of stillbirth. There are three signatures, those for the doctor, the registrar and the funeral director but the fields with Ellsworths name inserted only specify name, not signature. And there are sufficient similarities to entries in other fields for me to suspect that most of the fields were completed by one hand (other than the signatures already mentioned). Why he is listed as the informant is an interesting question but it could be as simple as the clerk completing the form just doing his usual and defaulting to the father.

 

[translator]

585UMPA

I know it’s most likely not him but reminds me of Mr. Bones. These old cases makes me crazy, who and where are they.

I was gonna mention this UID, too!

As you said, likely not the same person based on chronology and geography (and age) BUT it appears Mielke wore glasses and the UID had a contact lens; the heights and hair match; both the UID and Mielke seem to have a connection to NY, though the UID man’s is certainly more tentative; some of the UID’s camping gear looks similar to military surplus and Mielke had a military background; even the clothes the UID was wearing matches what it was thought Mielke would wear. Not suggesting Mielke wore the same thing for however many years but I do feel like leather jackets are one of those articles of clothing that, if you ever wear it once, you tend to wear it often.

I mean, who knows; it is always possible that Mielke suffered one of his “blackouts” and never returned to baseline. Hopefully one day we will come to know what happened or, at least, his body will be found. And hopefully the UID will one day also have his name back.