WA WA - Seattle, BlkMale 20-50, Case #94-1430, "Daniel Lyles" & Dates Written in Bible, Dec'94

[Gardener1850]

Case #94-1430

• Found December 15, 1994 in a transient camp on 7th Ave, Seattle
• Adult, black male
• Age: 20-50 years old
• Height: 5'6"
• Weight: 134 lbs.
• Found with the body was a bible with "Daniel Lyles 02-18-60" and the date, 10/26/94 handwritten inside

Unidentified remains - King County

 

[YaYa_521]

There's not a NamUs profile for this John Doe.

 

[sasha17]

A public records request was submitted to the Seattle Police Department on July 28, 2020 for information regarding this man. The request has not been fulfilled yet but it can be tracked here: Seattle PD: Daniel Lyles - John Doe - 1994

Additional information from Doe Network: 367UMWA
Hair: Unknown
Eye Color: Brown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Hands and feet were worn and rough. 1½-inch curvilinear on left front scalp; 1/8 inch on right forehead; multiple on right elbow, left upper arm and knees.
Clothing: Brown Febo de Rita leather boots and faded blue denim Jean St. Tropez brand pants. He wore a black down coat and black watch-style cap.
Additional Personal Items: Worn brown Bible that had been donated to a homeless shelter or prison ministry in Alabama, marked "Daniel Lyles 02-18-60" and the date "10-26-94" hand-written inside.

He's mentioned briefly in this article: Lost, But Not Forgotten | The Seattle Times

 

[MadMcGoo]

I’m curious as to how they’d know this:

Worn brown Bible that had been donated to a homeless shelter or prison ministry in Alabama, marked "Daniel Lyles 02-18-60" and the date "10-26-94" hand-written inside.

 

[YaYa_521]

I’m curious as to how they’d know this:

Worn brown Bible that had been donated to a homeless shelter or prison ministry in Alabama, marked "Daniel Lyles 02-18-60" and the date "10-26-94" hand-written inside.

Yeah, that would be good to know. Maybe a "compliments of..." sticker or stamp?

 

[devertere]

A public records request was submitted to the Seattle Police Department on July 28, 2020 for information regarding this man. The request has not been fulfilled yet but it can be tracked here: Seattle PD: Daniel Lyles - John Doe - 1994

Additional information from Doe Network: 367UMWA
Hair: Unknown
Eye Color: Brown
Distinguishing Marks/Features: Hands and feet were worn and rough. 1½-inch curvilinear on left front scalp; 1/8 inch on right forehead; multiple on right elbow, left upper arm and knees.
Clothing: Brown Febo de Rita leather boots and faded blue denim Jean St. Tropez brand pants. He wore a black down coat and black watch-style cap.
Additional Personal Items: Worn brown Bible that had been donated to a homeless shelter or prison ministry in Alabama, marked "Daniel Lyles 02-18-60" and the date "10-26-94" hand-written inside.

He's mentioned briefly in this article: Lost, But Not Forgotten | The Seattle Times

Oh no, I think they closed the request

 

[sasha17]

Oh no, I think they closed the request

Sure enough. That's bizarre. The reason they gave for closing the request is: "I have checked with our Records Unit, Homicide/Assault Unit, and SPD's Cold Case Unit and they were unable to locate any records based on the information you provided, and therefore we are in need of more information such as (involved parties) in order to facilitate an additional search for records."

So they claim they can't find any information at all on this man, even when the original request included a lot of detail as well as a link to King County's own webpage about unidentified individuals with this man listed.

 

[devertere]

As an Archivist/Records Manager, I can tell you exactly what happened. They are drowning in requests (not necessarily records requests) so they are pushing them back endlessly until a higher-up decides they have to clear them.

They are sending out the same message to everyone asking for more details and only the ones that reply back are answered. Everything else is closed.

Boom, just reduced the open requests / workload by 60%. Plus, the "successfully closed" statistics go way up within a month. Probably in time for either a report for upstairs or a budget meeting.

It's bad management, bad practice and I despise it.

 

[sasha17]

As an Archivist/Records Manager, I can tell you exactly what happened. They are drowning in requests (not necessarily records requests) so they are pushing them back endlessly until a higher-up decides they have to clear them.

They are sending out the same message to everyone asking for more details and only the ones that reply back are answered. Everything else is closed.

Boom, just reduced the open requests / workload by 60%. Plus, the "successfully closed" statistics go way up within a month. Probably in time for either a report for upstairs or a budget meeting.

It's bad management, bad practice and I despise it.

Thank you for the insight. That's so frustrating.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

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Case #94-1430​

• Found December 15, 1994 in a transient camp on 7th Ave, Seattle
• Adult, black male
• Age: 20-50 years old
• Height: 5'6"
• Weight: 134 lbs.
• Found with the body was a bible with "Daniel Lyles 02-18-60" and the date, 10/26/94 handwritten inside
• Unidentified remains - King County

 

[Beccalicious]

Bumping

 

[Bit of hope]

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Case #94-1430​

• Found December 15, 1994 in a transient camp on 7th Ave, Seattle
• Adult, black male
• Age: 20-50 years old
• Height: 5'6"
• Weight: 134 lbs.
• Found with the body was a bible with "Daniel Lyles 02-18-60" and the date, 10/26/94 handwritten inside
• Unidentified remains - King County

In My heritage there is this

Daniel Lyles
FamilySearch Stamboom

• birth 18 feb 1960
• Died 26 okt 1994

That would fit with the dates in the bible, but I guess anybody could have entered it. I don't have a clue why people feel the need to do that without records back up. There is no social security death record or death date in the USA public records. Kind of strange.

BTW I'm totally not sure this name will ever be a lead to the identification of this man. If the bible was donated John Doe might have gotten it anywhere, but maybe he spend time in Alabama once or was incarcerated for a while.

 

[Nate_Bro]

Found this regarding the name (the date is likely misread, happens with 5s and 8s). If it's correct in saying he was present in 1998, then the original owner of the book isn't the John Doe.

 

[The4TierBridge]

Now in NamUs as of 6/24: #UP146412: The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)