West Memphis Three - Geraldo Special Report 1994

[reedus23]

It's called scapegoating, and it's deplorable regardless of if it's done to "a hair trigger tempered, violent " or otherwise.

I agree, even if it's done to a satanic/occult following, black wearing, strange hair cut violent or otherwise.

 

[UdbCrzy2]

However, this "alternative suspect" left biological evidence at the discovery site. IMO, that's a big difference - and justification for investigation, at least! As to "scapegoating," that's what happened to Damien, Jason and Jessie!

The convicted murderers also left the same kind of evidence and more of it.

http://wm3truth.com/physical-evidence-and-lack-thereof/

 

[reedus23]

The convicted murderers also left the same kind of evidence and more of it.

http://wm3truth.com/physical-evidence-and-lack-thereof/

Investigators never found any slamdunk physical evidence tying Echols, Baldwin and Misskelley to the crime: no DNA at the crime scene, no bloody clothes, no murder knife.

Is that what you're referring to? If not, can you please list what you are talking about that is the same kind of evidence. I honestly did not see it.

 

[UdbCrzy2]

Is that what you're referring to? If not, can you please list what you are talking about that is the same kind of evidence. I honestly did not see it.

They did find evidence that linked back the the 3 just like the same they did to anyone else including Terry Hobbs. I'm going to use Damien's analogy - 'it's different now than it was back then'. The testing they do today is much better and more accurate.

I think they collected 29 hairs from the crime scene. They also collected other physical evidence too.


On this one it says it's consistent with Echols hair
http://callahan.8k.com/images/crimelab/correct2.jpg


I am not sure if you've looked at the evidence reports and testing or not, but just in case you want to see more - go here.
http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/img/crimelab.html

There is information on the fiber evidence as well as knife and candle wax and other stuff too.

 

[reedus23]

They did find evidence that linked back the the 3 just like the same they did to anyone else including Terry Hobbs. I'm going to use Damien's analogy - 'it's different now than it was back then'. The testing they do today is much better and more accurate.

I think they collected 29 hairs from the crime scene. They also collected other physical evidence too.


On this one it says it's consistent with Echols hair
http://callahan.8k.com/images/crimelab/correct2.jpg


I am not sure if you've looked at the evidence reports and testing or not, but just in case you want to see more - go here.
http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/img/crimelab.html

There is information on the fiber evidence as well as knife and candle wax and other stuff too.

Has there been any testing on that hair to determine if it was, in fact, Echols' hair? If they have DNA consistent with any of the WM3, I'd absolutely be willing to reconsider my position.

ETA - Missed your last sentence when first responding. It is my understanding that the fiber evidence has been discredited. I'm not aware of anywhere where the wax was determined to be Echols' wax within a reasonable degree of certainty. The knife? I won't rehash thoughts on that, but I thought the reference was to evidence left at the scene and was curious as to what was found at the crime scene.

 

[UdbCrzy2]

Has there been any testing on that hair to determine if it was, in fact, Echols' hair? If they have DNA consistent with any of the WM3, I'd absolutely be willing to reconsider my position.

ETA - Missed your last sentence when first responding. It is my understanding that the fiber evidence has been discredited. I'm not aware of anywhere where the wax was determined to be Echols' wax within a reasonable degree of certainty. The knife? I won't rehash thoughts on that, but I thought the reference was to evidence left at the scene and was curious as to what was found at the crime scene.

To avoid so much repetition, you might want to check out a thread that Kyleb was good to give us.

Hairs recovered from victims microscopically constant with Baldwin and Echols
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=207020"]Hairs recovered from victims microscopically constant with Baldwin and Echols - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[reedus23]

To avoid so much repetition, you might want to check out a thread that Kyleb was good to give us.

Hairs recovered from victims microscopically constant with Baldwin and Echols
Hairs recovered from victims microscopically constant with Baldwin and Echols - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

I appreciate that. It seems those hairs were confirmed to not have come from any of the WM3. So if the fibers are out, the hairs are out and the knife is out, what is left? The wax is the only thing arguably left by the WM3 at the crime scene?

 

[gheckso]

Can someone explain this please?

DAVIDSON: Your Honor, we'd also request a copy of the report of Lisa Sakevicius -- if there is one -- regarding any candle wax.

FOGLEMAN: I don't know if there is one. She said that what she puts in her report is when there are matches. She claimed that didn't match anything.

ETA: A good discussion on the wax, some very interesting points are raised. Link Very good read, seems this discussion was left with unanswered questions also.

 

[Ausgirl]

I appreciate that. It seems those hairs were confirmed to not have come from any of the WM3. So if the fibers are out, the hairs are out and the knife is out, what is left? The wax is the only thing arguably left by the WM3 at the crime scene?

What's interesting is that this actually does more to put Domini Teer at the crime scene, than anyone else. Seeing as the candle used for comparison came from her bedroom and all.

Interesting, how Domini keeps popping up like that.

 

[Bravo]

All I can say. At the end of the day. There is nothing that ties these 3 to the crime. Other than strange behavior which made them targets. I pray I am never on a Jury that would convict due to the accused not fitting the norm. No science or forensics? No way in he77 would I ruin 3 lives based on this case. Apparently the State agreed.

 

[Cappuccino]

What's interesting is that this actually does more to put Domini Teer at the crime scene, than anyone else. Seeing as the candle used for comparison came from her bedroom and all.

Interesting, how Domini keeps popping up like that.

As you can see from gheckso's post above, the wax on Stevie's shirt didn't match anything, so it doesn't incriminate anyone. The wax is non-evidence, which is why the prosecution didn't mention it until Davis' closing argument, ie when it was too late for the defense to challenge it.

 

[gheckso]

ie when it was too late for the defense to challenge it.

Wasn't that nice of them.

 

[NCSleuth]

Did you guys watch this video? All I can remember is "I wouldn't say I drink blood, uhm, I lick"

 

[reedus23]

Did you guys watch this video? All I can remember is "I wouldn't say I drink blood, uhm, I lick"

I used to do that all the time on the football field to try to psyche out the other team.

 

[primitivefuture]

I used to do that all the time on the football field to try to psyche out the other team.

I did it the other day to keep from bleeding on thanksgiving dinner I was making for my parents.


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[NCSleuth]

I used to do that all the time on the football field to try to psyche out the other team.

Did you lick other people's blood too?

 

[gloomy]

Did you guys watch this video? All I can remember is "I wouldn't say I drink blood, uhm, I lick"

:floorlaugh: Yes I did... he makes me feel ill every time he opens his mouth.

 

[Ausgirl]

Geraldo gives me the willies.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Geraldo gives me the willies.

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