Young Catholic women back birth control use

[butwhatif?]

I'm a little confused here. Is this specifically about the contraceptive pill?

What about condoms? Which I don't believe would be covered by insurance in any country. (Please correct me if I'm wrong). So how is that any different from the pill not being covered?

Then there's the billings method for those in monogomous relationships who don't need to be concerned about STI's.

As I understand it, the Billings method has been given the green light by the catholic church, due to it being a completely natural method.....with a very high success rate.

It can be used for those trying to concieve, those trying to avoid conception, or to track cycles for women who are entering menopause.

In the world of science it has only been recognised in the last 50 years or so, but the method has been around for much longer.

When it comes to birth control, women have a much better option than chemical contraceptives, devices, and sterilization—natural fertility.

This approach was first practiced by the Aboriginal tribes. (This may explain why the largest organization, the World Organization of the Ovulation Method Billings [WOOMB] is located in Australia.) It’s a timeless understanding of the female body that was handed down from mother to daughter in ancient times. As was the case in cultures that honored the feminine, women were taught to work consciously with their bodies. And this knowledge was passed on when girls started menstruating. Thankfully, these operating instructions for the female body are still available even though they’ve effectively "been disappeared" from mainstream culture to be replaced by beliefs that the female body is unpredictable and unreliable.

http://www.drnorthrup.com/womenshealth/healthcenter/topic_details.php?topic_id=126

The beauty of it is in a women understanding her body's cues, and being in control of her own body.
I choose not to take the pill because my body doesn't like it. But my body doesn't even like it's own naturally produced hormones!!

To be clear, I'm not Catholic and on an anti-contraceptive crusade here. I am of no particular denomination and I believe women should be able to choose what contraceptive is right for them.

I just don't understand the people who claim to be of a certain faith, but pick and choose the bits they want to believe or practise.

I'm not critisizing them, I simply don't understand it.

JMO

 

[ohiogirl]

Actually the GOP isn't waging a war against women, they are against the government forcing religious institutions to pay for something entirely against their beliefs. Don't believe everything the left is spewing about what GOP is against. There is definitely not a war being waged against women and I hope people understand the real issue before they make this judgement.

If you dont' think that this is a war against women, you are sadly mistaken.
I don't know what you think the "real" issue is, but there is a very strong movement by the religious right take away legal rights of women in this United States. Abortion is legal in the United States. The right to choose is legal in the United States.
If the Catholic Church and every other religious denomination wants to involve themselves in the politics of the United States they are in for a war they never counted on.
They have over stepped their bounds. Do you really want the church, any church, to dictate the rights of Americans in the United States of America?
Is this not what started this country in the first place?
When did religion become politics?
:banghead:

 

[ohiogirl]

Also, if the Catholic Church believes that they have control over the women in their faith, they just need to look at the surveys of how many Catholic women have availed themselves of birth control. They are WAY behind the times and they are only figureheads if they think their "women" are following their edicts. jmo

 

[michmi]

I just don't understand the people who claim to be of a certain faith, but pick and choose the bits they want to believe or practise.

I'm not critisizing them, I simply don't understand it.

JMO

In my particular case, Catholicism is the faith I was brought up in and still practice today. I believe in the basic belief system of the faith. What I don't believe in is the man-created "rules" like no contraception (which in my religion includes any barrier device and surgical sterilization for men or women).

I also do not believe God ever told anyone they have to bring their sins to a human being and for that human being to decide how many Hail Marys or Our Fathers I need to say--I regard it as just a ritual that some man decided we need to undergo in order to continue taking communion in church. I believe God wouldn't want me to stay away from church because I hadn't done my confession.

Some people believe in and practice all the rituals, some don't believe they serve any purpose and practice them out of guilt. The rest of us just practice the religion in everyday life and leave the things decreed by various groups of men alone. I support my parish financially and in person when I'm needed.

I'm sure there are very faithful Catholics who are horrified by what I'm writing, but I know I'm not alone in how I practice my faith.

 

[Cubby]

This same topic comes up repeatedly every presidential election. It's a hot button that draws voters, nothing more imo. I have no doubts 40 yrs from now it will probably be the same topic, same issues....

Probably off topic completely, but I kind of sitting back wondering how the church and conservative right will respond when a viable-safe-inexpensive-male-birth-control-pill becomes available.

For all the men who complain about fathering unwanted children, having the government force them to financially support an unwanted child, being tricked into impregnating someone...
When there is something to stop those little swimmers that can not be argued as an abortificant (which is usually a huge debate against hormonal bc), I'm just really curious about how this entire birth control debate will come down.

that's all, because I usually don't participate in these heated political issues that each side is never going to agree on.

 

[ohiogirl]

The Catholic Church is sadly behind the times and knows it. They can only pontificate about their edicts. They know their followers are not really followers. They cannot give up the $$ that each diocese brings in, they know that their numbers are falling.
I am sick of the religious beliefs that have become part and parcel of every election inthe United States. This is just what our authors of the Constitution tried to guard against, imo. This has been taken to a level that is obscene. People need to speak up and rally against the religious right's attempt to hijack our government.

 

[Cubby]

Everything is taken to an obscene level during election year, depending on what buttons one wants to push. It's nothing new and not likely to change anytime soon.

Is there really that much difference between watching drunken idiots at say Times Square on NY's eve or Mardi Gras and watching political opponents sling mud at each other? Not in my book. So I don't it bother me too much.

jmvho

 

[TrackerSam]

The Catholic Church is sadly behind the times and knows it. They can only pontificate about their edicts. They know their followers are not really followers. They cannot give up the $$ that each diocese brings in, they know that their numbers are falling.
I am sick of the religious beliefs that have become part and parcel of every election inthe United States. This is just what our authors of the Constitution tried to guard against, imo. This has been taken to a level that is obscene. People need to speak up and rally against the religious right's attempt to hijack our government.

Religious beliefs aren't trendy or fashions that change with the times. There is nothing in the constitution that prohibits religious influence on government - only governmental influence on religion. The Rev.Jesse Jackson ran for president. Democrat candidates don't hesitate to talk politics at black Baptist churches. The Rev Wright's sermons were certainly political. Candidates have always honed their image with photo ops of them attending church.

 

[TrackerSam]

BC is equally cheap for men, but they so often choose not to avail themselves.

Why should the entire responsibility be placed on women?

Really? Seriously? Men aren't going to get pregnant and if I were a woman I'd never trust a man to swallow an aspirin and tell me it's a birth control pill. You're not that gulliable are you?
At least you admitted that BC was cheap or shall we say affordable.