MA - Remains of 4 infants discovered in apartment, Boston - 17 November 2022

[ifindedout]

Police find the remains of 4 infants inside a Boston apartment

Police say they discovered "what appeared to be a human fetus or infant" and additional remains at an apartment in South Boston. An autopsy has revealed four infants: two female and two male.

www.npr.org

"A Suffolk County District Attorney spokesman told local news outlets that the remains were discovered inside a freezer. The district attorney's office did not immediately return NPR's request for confirmation."

From the Boston Police Department:

Investigation Update: Autopsies Performed on Remains Discovered in Apartment on East Broadway in South Boston — bpdnews.com

At about 2:15 pm on Thursday, November 17, 2022 officers assigned to District 6 responded to a radio call to investigate a premise at 838 East Broadway in South Boston. On Thursday, November 17, 2022 officers located what appeared to be a human fetus or infant. On Friday, November 18, 2022, homicid

bpdnews.com

 

[Proud Country Gal]

Remains of 4 infants found in South Boston home earlier this month

Boston police revealed Monday that they found the remains of four different infants at a South Boston home earlier this month.

www.boston.com

 

[PromotedPawn]

Interesting.

 

[borndem]

Interesting.

Indeed.
This one is just plain odd. And spooky.
<shiver>

 

[cocomod]

I remember a case in 2014 where remains of multiple (I think 7) infants were found in a garage here in Utah. They say she killed them because she was on drugs and couldn’t care for them. So very sad!

 

[cocomod]

I remember a case in 2014 where remains of multiple (I think 7) infants were found in a garage here in Utah. They say she killed them because she was on drugs and couldn’t care for them. So very sad!

Here is an article that talks about that case.

Police say they know why Utah mom hid bodies of 7 babies in garage

A Utah woman killed six of her babies because she couldn’t raise the children while also supporting her drug and alcohol addictions, police said Tuesday.

www.latimes.com

I am interested to see what happened in this Boston case!

 

[JoeFromLB]

I remember a case in 2014 where remains of multiple (I think 7) infants were found in a garage here in Utah. They say she killed them because she was on drugs and couldn’t care for them. So very sad!

Megan Huntsman. Horrific case. She will have to serve at least 30 years before being eligible for parole. Hope she's imprisoned for the rest of her life.

Utah mom admits killing 6 babies after giving birth | CNN

 

[DrQ]

IMHO everything about this case is beyond disturbing and creepy. I can't even come up with a reason for putting dead babies in the freezer much less why they were put there. So sad.

 

[LadyL]

IMHO everything about this case is beyond disturbing and creepy. I can't even come up with a reason for putting dead babies in the freezer much less why they were put there. So sad.

to contain the smell

 

[DrQ]

to contain the smell

Thanks. I thought of that but in my little pea brain it still didn't make the difference.

 

[iamshadow21]

Indeed.
This one is just plain odd. And spooky.
<shiver>

I suspect the story behind this one is going to be very sad, very lonely, and possibly have mental illness or drugs at the heart of it.

But still be murder.

 

[tlcya]

reminds me of the case of Erika Murray
MA - Remains of 3 infants found, Erika Murray charged, Blackstone, Sept 2014

Erika Murray and the Blackstone ‘House of Horrors’ case: What we know as the murder trial against the mother begins

 

[Nfagundes14]

any updates on this?

 

[SpicyFruit]

any updates on this?

I think about this one frequently and this is the most update I can find. It's been months. But they did say it would be hard to determine much.

Experts say it may be hard to determine whether human remains found in South Boston home are infant or fetal

Experts say it could be difficult to accurately pinpoint the exact age of these victims, as well as the manner and cause of their deaths.

www.boston.com

 

[SpicyFruit]

I think about this one frequently and this is the most update I can find. It's been months. But they did say it would be hard to determine much.

Experts say it may be hard to determine whether human remains found in South Boston home are infant or fetal

Experts say it could be difficult to accurately pinpoint the exact age of these victims, as well as the manner and cause of their deaths.

www.boston.com

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Who are they?​

Investigators will also try to identify the remains, but it’s possible no one attests to being a parent or relative.

If this happens, investigators could genetically test the remains, but they’d be using law enforcement databases that only include people who have been arrested.

The worst-case scenario would be a certificate that lists an unknown manner and cause of death and the name as an “unknown baby girl” or “unknown baby boy.”"

I would like to see them put their DNA in the doe project with familial DNA. What if these babies were created during Human trafficking? Their Mothers could be listed as missing women/children.

 

[iamshadow21]

"

Who are they?​

Investigators will also try to identify the remains, but it’s possible no one attests to being a parent or relative.

If this happens, investigators could genetically test the remains, but they’d be using law enforcement databases that only include people who have been arrested.

The worst-case scenario would be a certificate that lists an unknown manner and cause of death and the name as an “unknown baby girl” or “unknown baby boy.”"

I would like to see them put their DNA in the doe project with familial DNA. What if these babies were created during Human trafficking? Their Mothers could be listed as missing women/children.

DNA Doe Project doesn't work with child remains where the killer is more than likely family, as far as I know. It's their policy.

Other orgs do work with LE to identify Baby and Child Does and/or their parents.

 

[SpicyFruit]

DNA Doe Project doesn't work with child remains where the killer is more than likely family, as far as I know. It's their policy.

Other orgs do work with LE to identify Baby and Child Does and/or their parents.

"
Q: Do you take on cases where the Doe is believed to be under 18?

A: We do, and we have! We only turn down “baby Doe” cases where the mother is clearly a person of interest, since she would not have reported her baby or young child missing, although there are other organizations that do take on these cases. So it’s not the age, it’s the likely circumstances – e.g. if the mother was also found dead, we would certainly take them both on."

FAQ - DNA Doe Project Cases

Q: What is GEDmatch? A: GEDmatch is a free genetic genealogy service that is not affiliated with any of the direct-to-consumer (DTC) DNA testing companies, but which accepts data from all of them. GEDmatch allows users to compare their autosomal DNA (atDNA) results to people who have tested with...

dnadoeproject.org

Yes seems to be the case, but I wonder where these types of situations fit in. Does not seem like a situation a pregnant woman would have been able to do on her own.

 

[iamshadow21]

Yes seems to be the case, but I wonder where these types of situations fit in. Does not seem like a situation a pregnant woman would have been able to do on her own.

RSBM

Why not? I'm curious as to your thinking. There have been numerous cases of women, often (but not always) single, who have murdered a number of their infants shortly after birth without assistance. Often the babes are concealed in wall or floor cavities, buried in backyards, or, as in this case, stored in freezers or refrigerators.

In cases of infants abandoned to the elements, sometimes found by people in time to save them (as in the recent case of Angel Grace LNU) and sometimes not, it's almost invariably a woman (often a teenager) who's given birth without medical assistance, then dumped the child in the woods or a trash can or at the side of a road out of fear or repulsion.

What do you think this woman couldn't have done on her own?

 

[SpicyFruit]

RSBM

Why not? I'm curious as to your thinking. There have been numerous cases of women, often (but not always) single, who have murdered a number of their infants shortly after birth without assistance. Often the babes are concealed in wall or floor cavities, buried in backyards, or, as in this case, stored in freezers or refrigerators.

In cases of infants abandoned to the elements, sometimes found by people in time to save them (as in the recent case of Angel Grace LNU) and sometimes not, it's almost invariably a woman (often a teenager) who's given birth without medical assistance, then dumped the child in the woods or a trash can or at the side of a road out of fear or repulsion.

What do you think this woman couldn't have done on her own?

The last media I posted said some of the remains were not infants but fetuses. So unless they were born premature, someone had to have helped along with the abortion process. Unless there is a way to abort a baby with no help? I wouldn't know how that would work.

 

[iamshadow21]

The last media I posted said some of the remains were not infants but fetuses. So unless they were born premature, someone had to have helped along with the abortion process. Unless there is a way to abort a baby with no help? I wouldn't know how that would work.

People have been performing selfabortion for as long as humans have existed. There are a large number of ways people try, some ways are more effective than others, and all have a very high risk of death or infection for the pregnant person compared to medical abortion, which is performed by medical professionals in sterile conditions and as a result comes with a relatively low risk of injury. Desperate people do desperate things.