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Keep your fork......
That's actually not what Koschak testified to at all...
18 Q. Was she holding anything over either
19 of the two wounds when you saw her?
20 A. She was holding a rag to her neck.
21 Q. How about as far as her demeanor?
22 What was she doing? What was she saying? How did she
23 appear to be doing at that point?
24 A. She was -- she asked who could have
25 done this to her babies. She wasn't -- she was upset.
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1 She was upset.
2 Q. Okay. Crying? Screaming?
3 A. No.
4 Q. Now, did you stay inside the residence
5 with her or did you take her somewhere to treat her?
6 A. I asked her to come with me to the
7 front porch. I wanted to get out of the house and deemed
8 it being necessary for both of us -- be a good thing to
9 get out of the house....
10 Q. Were you seeing any of those items in
11 Mrs. Routier while you were out on the front porch with
12 her?
13 A. No, sir.
14 Q. Are you beginning to give her
15 treatment for her injuries at that time?
16 A. Yes, sir.
17 Q. Okay. What are you doing for her?
18 A. Begin bandaging up her neck and her
19 arm....
2 Q. You then said that Mrs. Routier was
3 crouched or kneeling over in the corner; is that right?
4 A. Yes, sir.
5 Q. And you took her out of there and took
6 her to the front porch?
7 A. Yes, sir.
8 Q. All right. And it was there that you
9 examined this, I believe you said a large gash to her
10 neck?
11 A. Laceration, yes, sir....
21 Q. Okay. You take my word that you say
22 four to five inches in your report?
23 A. It was around four inches, yes, sir.
24 Q. It was a substantial laceration, was
25 it not?
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1 A. In length, yes, sir.
2 Q. Okay. And don't you say that it was
3 right over the jugular vein?
4 A. In that area, yes, sir.
5 Q. Okay. Now, you bandaged her neck; is
6 that correct?
7 A. That's correct.
8 Q. And you did that there in the -- on
9 the porch?
10 A. That's correct....
15 Q. Okay. When you assisted Mrs. Routier
16 to the front porch, was the towel still on her neck?
17 A. Yes, sir.
18 Q. You are sure about that?
19 A. Yes, sir. I removed it on the front
20 porch.
21 Q. What did you do with it?
22 A. I believe I laid it on the front
23 porch.
24 Q. Just left it there on the front porch?
25 A. Yes, sir.
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19 Q. I take it it was bloody?
20 A. I would assume. I don't recall.
21 Q. You don't remember whether it was
22 white or whether it was a color?
23 A. No.
24 Q. Nothing at all?
25 A. No.
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1 Q. You would not have tossed it back into
2 the residence, would you?
3 A. No, sir.
4 Q. And you wouldn't have sent it with
5 her?
6 A. No, sir.
7 Q. Okay. So your best recollection, the
8 towel that she had on her neck was left there on the
9 front porch?
10 A. Yes, sir...
9 A. At that time.
10 Q. This cloth or towel that was around
11 her neck, can you describe that for us?
12 A. I don't recall.
13 Q. Okay.
14 A. I know it was a rag of some sort. I
15 really don't recall.
16 Q. Do you have any idea what color it
http://darliefacts.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/28_brian-koschak.pdf
First, Koschak testified he had no idea what color the rag was she was holding on her neck. Why the cited website is claiming that as factual information is beyond me. As for the rest...
Unless someone else showed up, picked up the towel she had on her neck, carried it back into the house and placed it on the floor by where Damon was laying, the towel where he was laying is not the towel Darlie was using to cover up her own wound. Per Koschak's testimony, the towel she was using was removed and left on the front porch.
By any account, the towel she used was left on the front porch. I don't think anyone can claim that she snuck out of the ambulance, placed another towel on the porch she had hidden on her then naked body, picked up the towel on the porch and put it back by where Damon was laying.
"Quite a distance" is a mere few feet. The towels were found in the hallway leading to the entry of the living room where Damon was laying. The location of Damon and the towels was not "quite a distance." It could be measured in inches. Photos to prove...
To the right is where Damon lay as is abundantly clear by all the blood. To the upper left of the photo includes the two towels that were "quite a distance away"... My goodness, those are so far away... It's like a whole body length. That's practically like being found on the other side of the Routier estate.
Then you factor in that the hallway was used by no less than six people (possibly more), who weren't paying attention to what they were stepping on or inadvertently moving around. Rightfully so, saving lives took a back seat to preserving the scene... But in the end, you end up with evidence that was trampled over or moved around.
As stated above when I refuted State's exhibit 63...
Koschak stated... He never removed nor deposited any rag from her neck in the house. What he did remove and deposit occurred outside the house on the front porch and he never put said rag back inside the house, per his own testimony.
As stated above but for the sake of continuity.....
If you read Koschak's testimony you will find that the above conclusion is false.
13 Q. How long did it take you to go back
14 inside the house and assess Devon, Devon's condition, as
15 the captain had instructed you?
16 A. How long had it been?
17 Q. No, sir. How long did it take you
18 once you went back in there after attending to the
19 infant, how long did it take you to go back in there to
20 assess Devon?
21 A. Seconds.
....
22 Q. You don't remember whether there were
23 towels or washcloths around?
24 A. No, sir.
25 Q. Okay. You're not -- you told us that
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1 there wasn't a washcloth on the youngster that you
2 attended to; is that right?
3 A. I didn't say one way or the other.
4 Q. You didn't say one way or the other?
5 A. No, sir.
6 Q. And you're still not saying one way or
7 the other?
8 A. No, sir. I don't believe there was
9 anything on there. I don't recall that.
10 Q. Do you recall if there was one to the
11 side, on either side of him?
12 A. I don't recall.
http://darliefacts.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/28_brian-koschak.pdf
Had that been his towel that he left behind he would have said "that was my towel that I brought in with me and I left it laying there." I'm not going to use a website to cite as a source when the testimony actually contradicts the conclusions the person came up with.
As I stated before.... I'm all for debate. But please, double check your source for the cited information and conclusions if you intend to use it as cite material. Darliefictionandfiction.com... Oh, sorry, darliefactandfiction.com is far too easy to easy to refute. If anything it's an "opinion" website that carries about much factual weight as my neighbor's opinion does.
I could refute every "conclusion" on that site with factual testimony... transcripts alone... And not with just the snips he/she chose to use on the website... The entire ones. Not just the ones I chose to snip and paste to support my position.
Prime example of complete misinformation for the purpose of misleading the reader...
The very first thing brought up in this post (and I want to make clear... I have absolutely no disrespect for the poster... Only disgust for the person who created the cited website and then passed of the conclusions as factually based when that couldn't be further from the truth).
If Marywhatevernumbershechose wanted to create a site that pointed to Darlie as the killer, that's up to her. When he or she completely misinforms the reader, or cherry picks the testimony to suit her conclusions without giving all the information?
Well, I have a problem with that. It's a bit disingenuous to say the least.
16 A. Yes, sir.
17 Q. Would this have been in the area where
18 you're treating Mrs. Routier?
19 A. That's correct.
20 Q. Do we see another item out here on the
21 front porch, Mr. Koschak?
22 A. Yes, sir.
23 Q. A white object?
24 A. Yes, sir.
25 Q. Covered in blood?
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1 A. Yes, sir.
2 Q. Is that something that you were using
3 to treat her with?
4 A. Yes, sir. That was around her neck.
5 That's what I removed.
6 Q. Okay. That's the towel or the rag
7 that you have been testifying about?
8 A. Yes, sir.
9 Q. Okay. I am now holding my finger on
10 that one. Correct?
11 A. Yes.
12 Q. Again, is that an area where you were
