FL Hulking Florida teen who beat teacher unconscious over Nintendo Switch pleads guilty

The four different goals of corrections are retribution, deterrence, incapacitation, and rehabilitation.

There are a number of accepted reasons for the use of imprisonment. One approach aims to deter those who would otherwise commit crimes (general deterrence) and to make it less likely that those who serve a prison sentence will commit crimes after their release (individual deterrence). A second approach focuses on issuing punishment to, or obtaining retribution from, those who have committed serious crimes. A third approach encourages the personal reform of those who are sent to prison. Finally, in some cases it is necessary to protect the public from those who commit crimes

That's what I said.

"I also disagree that prison is supposed to be punishment. That's one of the goals maybe, but the other is to keep dangerous people off the streets."

I should have included the word "...is only supposed to be punishment."
 
What else do you suggest be done? If there's ever a person for whom some kind of long-term inpatient facility is intended, it's someone like this young man.

If by long-term inpatient facility you mean a forensic facility, then I agree. He may end up in the forensic section of a state hospital depending on the resources in his state, but your ordinary mental health hospital is not going to take him, nor should they. If he gets a reduced charge, he needs a residential facility, like a group home, not a hospital, IMO.
 
That's what I said.

"I also disagree that prison is supposed to be punishment. That's one of the goals maybe, but the other is to keep dangerous people off the streets."

I should have included the word "...is only supposed to be punishment."
I was expanding on what you said for anyone interested, not contradicting it.
 
I was expanding on what you said for anyone interested, not contradicting it.
Agree. Truly it’s a testament to 2023 that he is even alive. It speaks to dignity for human life, even when undeserved. It speaks to a civilized society. I have no idea what to do with this human - he is dangerous in every environment and I am loathe to even expose mental health care workers to this risk - but I admire our society where this guy is still alive.
 
Why was he allowed to have this Nintendo Switch at school, when they knew he could possibly become violent over it? If his parents were okay with the risk at home, fine, but at school where innocent people would have to deal with it?

I think he belongs in a facility besides prison, because he is indeed severely disabled. But that's not going to be easy to find.

I do believe his parents did their absolute best. Most would not have continued trying to raise a child like this in their own home for so long.

I truly hope the victim was able to make a full recovery.
 
Why was he allowed to have this Nintendo Switch at school, when they knew he could possibly become violent over it? If his parents were okay with the risk at home, fine, but at school where innocent people would have to deal with it?

I think he belongs in a facility besides prison, because he is indeed severely disabled. But that's not going to be easy to find.

I do believe his parents did their absolute best. Most would not have continued trying to raise a child like this in their own home for so long.

I truly hope the victim was able to make a full recovery.

"But somehow the reward system shifted from the approved plan to utilizing or perhaps misapplying one of Brendan’s known triggers. This year’s teacher changed the overall reward system to allow students to access their electronics once they were done with their work. Most likely not realizing that his teacher was going against Brendan’s IEP, the teacher requested that Brendan’s Nintendo Switch be sent into school daily.

The group home’s behavioral analyst reluctantly and prematurely went along with this request. It was premature, because the IEP team had not been consulted. The teacher stipulated that the game was kept locked up and only given to Brendan at the end of the day, during an empty period."

It should also be noted:
"While under the care of specialists, Brendan was diagnosed with Autism, ADHD, Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD), Intermittent Explosive Disorder, Mood Dysregulation Disorder, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), and Anxiety."
and that "Brendan’s therapist reports that he has the emotional maturity of a 4 to 6-year-old. These symptoms are all part of the autism spectrum."

This young man, imho, does not belong in prison and if tried should not be tried as an adult.

 
But he is still guilty of aggravated battery regardless of his medical conditions. Autism cannot be an excuse to hurt, maim or kill people.

If in fact he functions at the level of a 5 - 6 year-old as stated in the article, then he is severely disabled. It's not an excuse, and society needs to be protected. But 5 and 6-year-olds don't end up in the detention centers when they're violent. This is a tough case.
 
It should also be noted:
"While under the care of specialists, Brendan was diagnosed with Autism, ADHD, Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD), Intermittent Explosive Disorder, Mood Dysregulation Disorder, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), and Anxiety."
and that "Brendan’s therapist reports that he has the emotional maturity of a 4 to 6-year-old. These symptoms are all part of the autism spectrum."

Not a comment on your post or opinion, @maconrich but just a comment in general about this quote from the MSM about this case.

It's actually impossible to have all those diagnoses because they have competing symptoms. In order to qualify for ODD, you can't have DMDD (disruptive mood dysregulation disorder). In fact, the criteria for ODD specifically states to make the diagnosis only when the patient doesn't meet criteria for DMDD. Same with Intermittent Explosive Disorder. You cannot have both IED and DMDD though you can have IED and ODD.

So this tells me that either a number of people have been treating this young man without a shared opinion on what his diagnosis actually is, or he's being treated by someone who isn't following the stated criteria for diagnoses, or his diagnosis has evolved over the years and old (inaccurate) diagnoses haven't been dropped from the medical record.

Regardless of reason, he needs a thorough mental health workup to actually pinpoint diagnosis/diagnoses so he can be properly treated.
 
He is severely autistic and incapable of processing things like a neurotypical person. How is someone like that going to learn a lesson in prison?
This case reminds me of the young autistic man who beat his college-professor mother to death. She had refused to "place" him because her own father had been a psychiatrist who was the director of a state mental institution, and the family lived on the grounds.

The boy's father, a physician, had found a facility that they all liked but the mother did not want the son to live away from her. Everybody lost with that story. (The parents were divorced and lived in adjacent states, but did co-parent.)
 
Not a comment on your post or opinion, @maconrich but just a comment in general about this quote from the MSM about this case.

It's actually impossible to have all those diagnoses because they have competing symptoms. In order to qualify for ODD, you can't have DMDD (disruptive mood dysregulation disorder). In fact, the criteria for ODD specifically states to make the diagnosis only when the patient doesn't meet criteria for DMDD. Same with Intermittent Explosive Disorder. You cannot have both IED and DMDD though you can have IED and ODD.

So this tells me that either a number of people have been treating this young man without a shared opinion on what his diagnosis actually is, or he's being treated by someone who isn't following the stated criteria for diagnoses, or his diagnosis has evolved over the years and old (inaccurate) diagnoses haven't been dropped from the medical record.

Regardless of reason, he needs a thorough mental health workup to actually pinpoint diagnosis/diagnoses so he can be properly treated.
Thank you for your input and information. It's always appreciated. And I hear what you're saying, and absolutely agree he needs a thorough mental health workup to pinpoint diagnoseses, and so he can be properly treated.

I could see the mother listing things he's been diagnosed with over the years, and I can imagine that some of them could have changed - or other things might have become more consistent and persistent over time. Maybe some have been helped with more with medications while others haven't been. IMHO it makes sense that the parents would hold onto his medical and educational records - and would think they have a very large file for each.

But I don't see how medications can alter the fact that he has the emotional maturity of a 4 to 6-year-old -- and IMO someone functioning at that level should not be put in prison. Perhaps, as you said in another post, a group home would be more appropriate. I agree that he could be (and has been) a danger to others and to himself. But I don't believe he should be treated the same as someone considered "normal" in this situation -- or in almost any situation.

It's also my opinion that this family tried to get help for their son at every step along the way, and that the system (health care, educational, insurance, etc) failed them and failed their son. The group home's insistence on putting him into public school, the teacher and paraprofessional disregarding his IEP and implementing a new and different policy - especially with regards to something that the parents, the group home and the IEP stressed was a trigger for Brendan. The combination of those things, IMHO, led directly to his aggression and the horrible events of that day. Maybe no one realized he would become violent, but they did know he would have an adverse reaction regarding the Nintendo Switch (and I'd guess there were a few other things they knew would also trigger him).

He seemed to have been doing surprisingly well when the IEP was followed --- and it IS required to be followed, at least until the team meets and another is made (and agreed on). Unless I'm reading it wrong, It sounds like he had been mainstreamed into at least one regular class, another aspect of his IEP, and that he was doing ok there too.

I'm not going to blame the paraprofessional or question her credentials. IMO she was literally doing her job and following the instructions of the teacher. She was the victim and was put in a terrifying situation that no instructor should ever be in. (Although too many are no matter the grade or type of students they're teaching.)

And, based on my experience, it sounds like the IEP was designed properly - meeting the requirements of the state and school, and detailing a plan that would best meet the needs of the student. Why was it disregarded? Why impose change on students that tend not to respond well to change? Or, at the very least, a change that was not approved in a student's IEP? Sadly, IMHO, it's almost too easy to see what led up to this violent reaction.

When dealing with individuals with the conditions and mental development of this young man, are the disabilities to be tossed aside as not being relevant? Even though they impact ever minute of said person's life? Are they to be tried as an adult, and potentially put into prison, when they aren't even capable of living life on their own? Yes, this 17 year old is physically large, but mentally he's at the level of a 4-6 year old and is severely autistic (plus has a host of other problems that could at the very least aggravate or intensify his condition).

Until it was closed in the 1980s, due at least in part to horrifying conditions and the mistreatment of patients, children (and adults) like Brendan (in FL) would have been put in Sunland Hospital: a place that lives in my nightmares even though I was only there once while in my teens. The de-institutionalization of mental health facilities resulted in even fewer options for those with severe disabilities - those who require round the clock care and close supervision. Leaving primarily group homes.

And, also in FL, I studied, what was then called Exceptional Child Education and worked in a class for Autistic students (ages 6-14). I was never injured or felt like I was in danger, but I have known teachers who were (and they didn't all work with special needs students). So I do have personal bias when it comes to this case - for Brendan, for the paraprofessional, the teacher and the parents. And for all like them who are in similar situations.

I don't believe, however, that my education or experience gives me more insight or knowledge, but it might be partly responsible for my belief that Brendan's IEP should have been followed, and that children like Brendan do not belong in prison.

Sorry for the length of this post. This case has hit me hard emotionally, and I have so much sympathy for the paraprofessional and for Brendan and his family. And, as I stated above, for all others who are in similar situations.
 
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Thank you for your input and information. It's always appreciated. And I hear what you're saying, and absolutely agree he needs a thorough mental health workup to pinpoint diagnoseses, and so he can be properly treated.

I could see the mother listing things he's been diagnosed with over the years, and I can imagine that some of them could have changed - or other things might have become more consistent and persistent over time. Maybe some have been helped with more with medications while others haven't been. IMHO it makes sense that the parents would hold onto his medical and educational records - and would think they have a very large file for each.

But I don't see how medications can alter the fact that he has the emotional maturity of a 4 to 6-year-old -- and IMO someone functioning at that level should not be put in prison. Perhaps, as you said in another post, a group home would be more appropriate. I agree that he could be (and has been) a danger to others and to himself. But I don't believe he should be treated the same as someone considered "normal" in this situation -- or in almost any situation.

There really aren't medications to cure this issue. Medications can sedate him and maybe curb some of the temper, but there is no cure or way to remit symptoms permanently, unfortunately. That's why I say that IMO a run-of-the-mill mental health hospital wouldn't be helpful as most hospitals are acute care, meaning patients come in to be treated/stabilized and released, even if that takes a few weeks or months. The hospitals that house people longer term are state hospitals but the goal is still to release the mentally ill once stable, with the exception of forensic facilities/sections where people can stay long-term, possibly for life if their condition presents a danger to themselves or to society.

This is a tough case.
 
There really aren't medications to cure this issue. Medications can sedate him and maybe curb some of the temper, but there is no cure or way to remit symptoms permanently, unfortunately. That's why I say that IMO a run-of-the-mill mental health hospital wouldn't be helpful as most hospitals are acute care, meaning patients come in to be treated/stabilized and released, even if that takes a few weeks or months. The hospitals that house people longer term are state hospitals but the goal is still to release the mentally ill once stable, with the exception of forensic facilities/sections where people can stay long-term, possibly for life if their condition presents a danger to themselves or to society.

This is a tough case.
It is tough. And terribly sad for everyone involved. Thank you for the additional info.

Sunland had more than one hospital / institution in FL. During the tour, I remember our guide telling us that some of the patients were visited by their families, but that most would never leave the facility. (It was closed down about 13 years later.) The patients ranged from infants to the elderly. Nothing like our current mental health hospitals - or floors for mental health patients in regular hospitals.

It sounds like we need a new version of the old: updated and where patients receive the care they need and are treated well.

What a mess.
 
The adoptive mother comes across to me as a lovely woman who is in tremendous denial, and I know of literally no environment - jail, prison, medical facility - where the people around this man wouldn’t be in physical danger from him. The conversation we should be having here is probably around involuntary medication.
 

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