mollymalone
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mollymalone
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http://texaspolygamy.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_archive.html
POST By MIB (Jay Beswick) Canada Properties In Default?
The report is interesting reading and unnerving in light of interest from those
in financial hardship seeking position and status as new UEP trustee's. The
personal financial dealings that include non payment of taxes, to a point of
forfeit, to over seeing a trust already shakey might just concern the judge,
courts and appointed fiduciary.
POST BY LACSD 9/24/2005 7:55 AM :
THE DECLINE OF A $6-MILLION POLYGAMIST:
"A year ago, Winston Blackmore's net assets -- personal and corporate -- were $6 million"..... "Forfeited to the B.C. government for unpaid taxes $1.22 million worth of land and property in Creston where he was operating Kootenay Wood Preservers.
Foreclosed: The B.C. Supreme Court has given Blackmore, his brother and two of his half-brothers until Oct. 25 to repay the $1.03 million they owed HSBC in July. But that amount keeps on growing with interest calculated at $202.75 per day.
Foreclosed: The Alberta Community Credit Union went to court in March in Medicine Hat to gain title to a piece of property for which Blackmore had failed to pay $5,153 owing on the mortgage.
Money owing: Blackmore owes the B.C. government $4,583 in 2005 taxes and penalties on six rural properties assessed at $837,900.
Transferred: Blackmore's J.R. Blackmore & Sons Ltd. transferred lucrative logging contracts with Tembec Industries after Petro-Canada won a court order in 2004 against Blackmore for failing to pay the bills to Prairie Holdings Ltd. Blackmore had been president of that company until he transferred control to his sons Jake Blackmore, Hyrum Blackmore and Brigham Shane Palmer along with Prairie Holdings debt.
Sold or transferred: $1.97-million worth of property including 664 acres of farmland, a grain elevator in Creston, grain storage bins, two duplexes, two mobile homes in and near Bountiful and a single-family home.
POST By MIB (Jay Beswick) Canada Properties In Default?
The report is interesting reading and unnerving in light of interest from those
in financial hardship seeking position and status as new UEP trustee's. The
personal financial dealings that include non payment of taxes, to a point of
forfeit, to over seeing a trust already shakey might just concern the judge,
courts and appointed fiduciary.
POST BY LACSD 9/24/2005 7:55 AM :
THE DECLINE OF A $6-MILLION POLYGAMIST:
"A year ago, Winston Blackmore's net assets -- personal and corporate -- were $6 million"..... "Forfeited to the B.C. government for unpaid taxes $1.22 million worth of land and property in Creston where he was operating Kootenay Wood Preservers.
Foreclosed: The B.C. Supreme Court has given Blackmore, his brother and two of his half-brothers until Oct. 25 to repay the $1.03 million they owed HSBC in July. But that amount keeps on growing with interest calculated at $202.75 per day.
Foreclosed: The Alberta Community Credit Union went to court in March in Medicine Hat to gain title to a piece of property for which Blackmore had failed to pay $5,153 owing on the mortgage.
Money owing: Blackmore owes the B.C. government $4,583 in 2005 taxes and penalties on six rural properties assessed at $837,900.
Transferred: Blackmore's J.R. Blackmore & Sons Ltd. transferred lucrative logging contracts with Tembec Industries after Petro-Canada won a court order in 2004 against Blackmore for failing to pay the bills to Prairie Holdings Ltd. Blackmore had been president of that company until he transferred control to his sons Jake Blackmore, Hyrum Blackmore and Brigham Shane Palmer along with Prairie Holdings debt.
Sold or transferred: $1.97-million worth of property including 664 acres of farmland, a grain elevator in Creston, grain storage bins, two duplexes, two mobile homes in and near Bountiful and a single-family home.
mollymalone
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http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_9261073
Another Colorado colony of the polygamy-practicing Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has taken root, this one at the foot of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains, 50 miles west of Pueblo. Custer County Assessor J.D. Henrich confirmed that a senior member of the sect, Lee Steed, bought a $350,000 house there in November 2006 and two more parcels in rural, largely vacant subdivisions last December. The adjoining parcels, each just more than 40 acres, cost a total of $428,000, according to county tax rolls. The land is near the tiny twin towns of Westcliffe and Silver Cliff, which have a combined population of 800 to 1,000 people. "We keep hearing about a fourth parcel, but no deed has been recorded yet," Henrich said.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/may/14/polygamous-sect-buying-land-in-2-colo-counties/
Members of a polygamous sect have been quietly buying up property in Custer and Fremont counties and settling in, according to the Custer County sheriff. "We have reason to believe that they are the same organization that was in Texas that has been in the news," said Custer County Sheriff Fred Jobe. In the past two years, a senior aide to Jeffs has purchased three properties in Custer County, near the town of Westcliffe. Jobe said that one property is northeast of West cliffe, where there is a good-size community of FLDS members. A house on a piece of property to the west of the town is also being remodeled.
EDITED TO ADD: The location in Fremont County, Colorado is Cotopaxi.
Another Colorado colony of the polygamy-practicing Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints has taken root, this one at the foot of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains, 50 miles west of Pueblo. Custer County Assessor J.D. Henrich confirmed that a senior member of the sect, Lee Steed, bought a $350,000 house there in November 2006 and two more parcels in rural, largely vacant subdivisions last December. The adjoining parcels, each just more than 40 acres, cost a total of $428,000, according to county tax rolls. The land is near the tiny twin towns of Westcliffe and Silver Cliff, which have a combined population of 800 to 1,000 people. "We keep hearing about a fourth parcel, but no deed has been recorded yet," Henrich said.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/may/14/polygamous-sect-buying-land-in-2-colo-counties/
Members of a polygamous sect have been quietly buying up property in Custer and Fremont counties and settling in, according to the Custer County sheriff. "We have reason to believe that they are the same organization that was in Texas that has been in the news," said Custer County Sheriff Fred Jobe. In the past two years, a senior aide to Jeffs has purchased three properties in Custer County, near the town of Westcliffe. Jobe said that one property is northeast of West cliffe, where there is a good-size community of FLDS members. A house on a piece of property to the west of the town is also being remodeled.
EDITED TO ADD: The location in Fremont County, Colorado is Cotopaxi.
mollymalone
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356156,00.html
"Who funded it? We're investigating. That's for dang sure," said Jeff Shields, a court-appointed lawyer studying the sect's finances. Shields, an attorney on the trust case, said there has never been a full accounting of the trust assets because church leaders refused to turn over documents or answer questions. Even the identities of the trustees are a mystery; more than half are listed as "unnamed" in court documents. The court-appointed lawyers overseeing the trust have subpoenaed any financial records state troopers may have seized in the April 3 raid on the Texas ranch."We have good cause to believe there's something relevant to what we're doing up here," Shields said."
"Parker called such links "fantasies" and denied any trust money was used to fund the ranch."
"Who funded it? We're investigating. That's for dang sure," said Jeff Shields, a court-appointed lawyer studying the sect's finances. Shields, an attorney on the trust case, said there has never been a full accounting of the trust assets because church leaders refused to turn over documents or answer questions. Even the identities of the trustees are a mystery; more than half are listed as "unnamed" in court documents. The court-appointed lawyers overseeing the trust have subpoenaed any financial records state troopers may have seized in the April 3 raid on the Texas ranch."We have good cause to believe there's something relevant to what we're doing up here," Shields said."
"Parker called such links "fantasies" and denied any trust money was used to fund the ranch."
golfmom
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http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700226417,00.html
SAN ANGELO, Texas Subpoenas have been served on authorities here demanding documents related to the Fundamentalist LDS Church's YFZ Ranch and how it was purchased.
The man appointed by the courts to take charge of the FLDS Church's real-estate holdings arm wants to see records seized by law enforcement during the raid on the compound. Bruce Wisan, the special fiduciary of the United Effort Plan Trust, had his lawyers serve subpoenas on the Tom Green County District Attorney's Office.
SAN ANGELO, Texas Subpoenas have been served on authorities here demanding documents related to the Fundamentalist LDS Church's YFZ Ranch and how it was purchased.
The man appointed by the courts to take charge of the FLDS Church's real-estate holdings arm wants to see records seized by law enforcement during the raid on the compound. Bruce Wisan, the special fiduciary of the United Effort Plan Trust, had his lawyers serve subpoenas on the Tom Green County District Attorney's Office.
mollymalone
Former Member
The UEP Trust, which is property rich but cash poor, has about $54,000 in the bank.
So Warren Jeffs and his cohorts have in a short number of years depleted the account drastically.
So sell off some property! Don't think they'll be needing that acreage in Colorado, for starters. If they (State of Utah receiver) don't want to sell it, then mortgage it.
mollymalone
Former Member
Wisan is selling off some property, and he's seeking documents from Texas. If he can prove that YFZ, or for that matter, the other compounds, were built using funds from the UEP it's a good bet he can go after the properties. That's the only way he'll be able to make the UEP solvent and to meet monetary damages from lawsuits by former members.
mollymalone
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http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/art...est_news/7bf8e0f5df136fa08625744b0064009a.txt
Under the name United Land Management LLC, the sect started buying land near Pringle in October 2003 and has since put up several large dorm-like buildings. The total assessed value of the 140 acres tops $4.5 million, according to county records. Appraisal records say the housing encompasses 28,095 square feet among five buildings, which contain a total of at least 38 bedrooms. "Their buildings are immaculate. There's also a guard tower visible above the trees. "I think it's to keep those girls in," Hickstein said.
State law requires people to report births or deaths at home, but no such report has ever been filed from the ranch, said Frances Larsen, Custer County register of deeds. Tim Creal, Custer School District superintendent, said six children from the ranch received a public school exemption for the current school year so they could be taught at home.
Under the name United Land Management LLC, the sect started buying land near Pringle in October 2003 and has since put up several large dorm-like buildings. The total assessed value of the 140 acres tops $4.5 million, according to county records. Appraisal records say the housing encompasses 28,095 square feet among five buildings, which contain a total of at least 38 bedrooms. "Their buildings are immaculate. There's also a guard tower visible above the trees. "I think it's to keep those girls in," Hickstein said.
State law requires people to report births or deaths at home, but no such report has ever been filed from the ranch, said Frances Larsen, Custer County register of deeds. Tim Creal, Custer School District superintendent, said six children from the ranch received a public school exemption for the current school year so they could be taught at home.
mollymalone
Former Member
Lee Steed is a top aide to Warren Jeffs and helped Jeffs elude law enforcement in 2005 & 2006.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/may/15/town-wary-polygamists/
Custer County Assessor J.D. Henrich this morning confirmed that Lee A. Steed bought a 5,800-square-foot house, on 35 acres of land, for $350,000 on Nov. 20, 2006; and had bought 42-acre and 43-acre vacant parcels last Dec. 17 for a combined $428,900. Steed last year also purchased a six-bedroom home on 35 acres valued at $359,000 and a 2,600-square-foot three-bedroom house on 40 acres in neighboring Fremont County, according to assessor records. The larger home is in Cotopaxi and the smaller one in Florence.
Kathleen Kerr, owner of the home next door to the house bought by Steed in Westcliffe in Custer County, told HateWatch that ATVs patrol the property and that she hears occasional gunfire. "It's just not quiet and peaceful there anymore," Kerr said. Custer County Commissioner Dick Downey said his county has a culture of farming and ranching and the people there are interested in preserving traditional values values that include only one wife per husband. "We're monitoring the situation," Downey said. "It's a concern. The main thing for us is that we want to make sure all the zoning rules and laws are obeyed.
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/2008/may/15/town-wary-polygamists/
Custer County Assessor J.D. Henrich this morning confirmed that Lee A. Steed bought a 5,800-square-foot house, on 35 acres of land, for $350,000 on Nov. 20, 2006; and had bought 42-acre and 43-acre vacant parcels last Dec. 17 for a combined $428,900. Steed last year also purchased a six-bedroom home on 35 acres valued at $359,000 and a 2,600-square-foot three-bedroom house on 40 acres in neighboring Fremont County, according to assessor records. The larger home is in Cotopaxi and the smaller one in Florence.
Kathleen Kerr, owner of the home next door to the house bought by Steed in Westcliffe in Custer County, told HateWatch that ATVs patrol the property and that she hears occasional gunfire. "It's just not quiet and peaceful there anymore," Kerr said. Custer County Commissioner Dick Downey said his county has a culture of farming and ranching and the people there are interested in preserving traditional values values that include only one wife per husband. "We're monitoring the situation," Downey said. "It's a concern. The main thing for us is that we want to make sure all the zoning rules and laws are obeyed.
mollymalone
Former Member
http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=8333204
News Video showing some of the property
According to Custer County Sheriff Fred Jobe and the Fremont County Assessor's Office, Anthony Steed bought land as recently as last December. That's when he purchased 40 acres near Florence. That summer he acquired 35 acres in the Texas Creek area near Cotopaxi. Jobe says Steed also bought two 80-acre plots near Westcliffe, adding to 35 acres he already owned. Jobe believes Steed is a member of the FLDS. Officials in Fremont County were unable or unavailable Thursday to discuss the size of the FLDS community there. Jobe says the Westcliffe community is growing, with plenty of building going on. Jobe says men occasionally come in town, but women and children rarely are seen.
News Video showing some of the property
According to Custer County Sheriff Fred Jobe and the Fremont County Assessor's Office, Anthony Steed bought land as recently as last December. That's when he purchased 40 acres near Florence. That summer he acquired 35 acres in the Texas Creek area near Cotopaxi. Jobe says Steed also bought two 80-acre plots near Westcliffe, adding to 35 acres he already owned. Jobe believes Steed is a member of the FLDS. Officials in Fremont County were unable or unavailable Thursday to discuss the size of the FLDS community there. Jobe says the Westcliffe community is growing, with plenty of building going on. Jobe says men occasionally come in town, but women and children rarely are seen.
mollymalone
Former Member
http://www.custercountynews.com/printable.php?article=792&category=1&issue_id=50
"Nephi Barlow — owner of the ranch in Delta County"
The Colorado Division of Water Resources had records on file that indicated there could be as many as three households planned for the 35-acre ranch.
Other properties near the Westcliff area in Custer County, Colo., and the Cañon City area in Fremont County, Colo., are being investigated because they are suspected to be FLDS-owned and occupied. An unofficial source said Lee Steed, who is Warren Jeffs’ brother, owns the properties.
Another unofficial source, who is close to the group, said there are more compounds in the Portland, Ore., area, as well as the Oklahoma Panhandle.
Molly says: I've read comments from fromer members regarding locations such Casper Wyoming and Cody Wyoming, and a reported name of Jerold Williams being the owner of the Cody compound.
"Nephi Barlow — owner of the ranch in Delta County"
The Colorado Division of Water Resources had records on file that indicated there could be as many as three households planned for the 35-acre ranch.
Other properties near the Westcliff area in Custer County, Colo., and the Cañon City area in Fremont County, Colo., are being investigated because they are suspected to be FLDS-owned and occupied. An unofficial source said Lee Steed, who is Warren Jeffs’ brother, owns the properties.
Another unofficial source, who is close to the group, said there are more compounds in the Portland, Ore., area, as well as the Oklahoma Panhandle.
Molly says: I've read comments from fromer members regarding locations such Casper Wyoming and Cody Wyoming, and a reported name of Jerold Williams being the owner of the Cody compound.
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I don't really think they will find a way to go after them for the inital costs. But I do look for at least one and probably both parents to be charged child support. I also think they will review the churches and the individual's tax records extensively.
About the only way they will be able to go after them for repayment is if they determine some organization crime- like under the drug statutes they can go after any assets of the dealer and confiscate any assets used in the crime.
About the only way they will be able to go after them for repayment is if they determine some organization crime- like under the drug statutes they can go after any assets of the dealer and confiscate any assets used in the crime.
mollymalone
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Rick Ross stated on a Fox interview that Warren Jeffs withdrew large sums from the UEP and shortly afterwards began building the FLDS compound and temple at Eldorado, Tx. If this is true, and documents support this, then Wisan can go to court and quiet possibly gain control over that entire property. Those who remain at that "ranch" could find themselves paying rent unless the entire property was sold (which is quite likely) in order to recoup the funds that belong back in the UEP Trust.
I suspect that these parents are going to be assessed child support and if CPS can determine that certain women are indeed on welfare etc, in other states, and the father is determined, then those states could start recouping some of their money back from those fathers. In order for the women to remain on or continue with welfare those fellas are going to end up in the same boat. As for those "men" who have left the area in order to avoid any court proceedings of whatever kind, that's another issue altogether.
Since there may have been massive fraud with tax evasion and welfare, it's going to be an interesting call to see who gets the properties in Tx or other states, the feds or the states or the UEP.
I suspect that these parents are going to be assessed child support and if CPS can determine that certain women are indeed on welfare etc, in other states, and the father is determined, then those states could start recouping some of their money back from those fathers. In order for the women to remain on or continue with welfare those fellas are going to end up in the same boat. As for those "men" who have left the area in order to avoid any court proceedings of whatever kind, that's another issue altogether.
Since there may have been massive fraud with tax evasion and welfare, it's going to be an interesting call to see who gets the properties in Tx or other states, the feds or the states or the UEP.
Trino
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Some FLDS parents complained because their children were placed in separate facilities, and they had to drive many miles to visit each one. Where did they get the money (and vehicles) to drive these distances. Probably, too, they needed to stay in motels. Again, if they gave their checks to FLDS, who gave the parents money?
mollymalone
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http://deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,700245096,00.html
Lawyers for the United Effort Plan Trust served the subpoenas on Snow, Christensen & Martineau, seeking to compel the law firm into handing over documents. The firm is resisting, arguing attorney-client privilege.
"It is impossible to characterize legal advice given to FLDS leadership regarding the UEP Trust as having been given to them in any particular capacity," attorney Rod Parker wrote in documents filed last week in Salt Lake City's 3rd District Court. "The UEP Trust was regarded as a part of the religious institution of the Church, and was managed as a religious institution and a tool used in the Church's mission in providing for the spiritual and temporal needs of its members. The Special Fiduciary's characterization of the UEP Trust as an entity with a separate existence from the mission of the Church is not consistent with SC&M's representation of the Church."
Snow, Christensen & Martineau acted as the FLDS Church's legal counsel from 1987-2004. It helped incorporate the church and the UEP Trust
Lawyers for the United Effort Plan Trust served the subpoenas on Snow, Christensen & Martineau, seeking to compel the law firm into handing over documents. The firm is resisting, arguing attorney-client privilege.
"It is impossible to characterize legal advice given to FLDS leadership regarding the UEP Trust as having been given to them in any particular capacity," attorney Rod Parker wrote in documents filed last week in Salt Lake City's 3rd District Court. "The UEP Trust was regarded as a part of the religious institution of the Church, and was managed as a religious institution and a tool used in the Church's mission in providing for the spiritual and temporal needs of its members. The Special Fiduciary's characterization of the UEP Trust as an entity with a separate existence from the mission of the Church is not consistent with SC&M's representation of the Church."
Snow, Christensen & Martineau acted as the FLDS Church's legal counsel from 1987-2004. It helped incorporate the church and the UEP Trust
