Kimberlyd125
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Then what's the problem with her testifying early through a recorded deposition?
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I assume neither. She can't be unaware of the details of this case. As for what she might do in the future, who's to say?
In the big picture, I guess JM's testimony is not going to be terribly central to the case, whether it were in person or via recorded depo... IMO whatever her testimony and however she appears during the trial, it will not impeach or undo the very real evidence against Chris.
The good thing, imo, about the recorded deposition/testimony is there won't be a "live" presence in the courtroom to distract from what the jurors are there for. Unfortunately for JM, the defendant was one of her employees, however it was he and not her ministry which was responsible for the deaths of Sheri, Garrett and Gavin. Like her or not, he is the one on trial. MOO
I assume neither. She can't be unaware of the details of this case. As for what she might do in the future, who's to say?
In the big picture, I guess JM's testimony is not going to be terribly central to the case, whether it were in person or via recorded depo... IMO whatever her testimony and however she appears during the trial, it will not impeach or undo the very real evidence against Chris.
Joyce Meyer has rubbed me the wrong way since the beginning of this story. Sheri was once employed at Joyce Meyer Ministries and Chris still worked for her. IMO, I just thought at some point she could make a statement, something to the effect of "we are praying for or supporting the family and friends of Sheri, Garret, & Gavin." Not only his Chris and Sheri work for JMM, but they also had several close friends who still worked for JMM.
Also during the beginning process of the civil trial, JMM was quite uncooperative in responding to court orders regarding JMM policies and procedures. Again, this was a young mother and her 2 completely innocent children who were murdered, IMO, Joyce Meyer and her ministries should have been willing to cooperate with anything that was needed in this investigation.
And panthera, great point on Joyce possibly causing a distraction at the trial.
So is the bitterness because she's a televangelist, or that she's not all knowing? Has there been even an inkling that Coleman told Meyer's about anything, or that she knew about the affair?
I don't see it that way. Anyone who can show up for work everyday can show up and testify. She's not disabled, and I can't see a reason why she can't testify in person. Each and every one of would be asked to if we were connected to such a high profile case.
Televangelist or not - why can't she show up? Is it because the state doesn't want to pay for the expense?
MOO
Mel
Is it possible that the only reason for JM to testify is to verify 1) Chris was an employee of JMM 2) the work computer he was using was the one assigned to him at JMM 3) he was the one logged on to the computer when the threats were written, or in comparing writing patterns and incorrectly spelled words used in both threats and in JMM memos 4) timeline with regard to travel schedules and duties and 5) Sheri and Chris were in marriage counseling and/or were having problems. Remember Sheri went to JMM and told them Chris was having an affair and wanted a divorce.
While I do think she was well aware of Chris's affair, I don't think she encouraged it or discouraged it - I think she turned a blind eye to it. And we know her son knew about it. I believe some of us have a problem with JM for reasons having nothing to do with Chris. Some of us have talked in the past about JM - basically the fact that she has millions of dollars which she has earned from her ministry. While I have no problem with self-made millionaires, I do have a problem with people who IMO worship money more than God, and who take money from those who maybe can't afford it and who think they are buying their way into heaven. Once we form an opinion of a person like JM, it is hard to separate our personal feelings of her vs our opinions of JM and Chris Coleman. She, of course, is not at fault for the murders - all she can do is verify info from what I can see - and I guess she actually believed Chris until she saw the evidence that was beginning to accumulate. I still have no respect for her, but I really don't think she could have anticipated what happened.
It's kind of the same thing with Chris's parents. Let's face it, most of us would try to protect our child although I don't think I could in a case like this one. We look at Ron Coleman and see a "man of God" who has asked for donations for his son's defense. He has convinced his church members to believe in him and in his son - and apparently they do. But, in a prior thread, it was written that he had advanced a lot of money - can't remember the amount but I'm thinking it was well over the $100,000 mark. I don't know about you all, but I don't know many ministers who have that kind of money and when I see one who does, I doubt their motivations. And I don't trust them.
So while a lot of us have a problem with JM and the Coleman parents, and while we don't understand them or have respect for them, we do realize it is Chris on trial and not JM or RC. We just don't have the patience for, what some may call, the games that are being played.
Don't know if that makes sense, but it might explain why we don't want to give JM a break.
I don't see it that way. Anyone who can show up for work everyday can show up and testify. She's not disabled, and I can't see a reason why she can't testify in person. Each and every one of would be asked to if we were connected to such a high profile case.
Televangelist or not - why can't she show up? Is it because the state doesn't want to pay for the expense?
MOO
Mel
Sounds like unresolved issues with faith - and taking it out on a public figure. Which is fine, but that doesn't make her a party to anything that happened.
A woman of God says many prayers. Just because she has not made the public aware of everyone she prays for does not mean the killer is the only one she prays for.
If anybody thinks she has not said MANY PRAYERS for the victims, I would think again. I'm sure she has.