TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

[Dotta]

So much time has passed and I still think about this tragedy and check this sad thread.

Unimaginably tragic case

 

[Marysmith]

So much time has passed and I still think about this tragedy and check this sad thread.

Unimaginably tragic case

It really is. It's just unbelievable really.

 

[Kaley Smith]

Here is another gifted article.


Justice Department Finds ‘Unimaginable Failure’ in Uvalde Police Response

The “most significant failure,” investigators concluded, was the decision by local police officials to classify the incident as a barricaded standoff rather than an “active-shooter” scenario, which would have demanded instant and aggressive action. Almost all of the officials in charge that day have already been fired or have retired.

The federal report puts a particular focus on the actions of law enforcement officials in the aftermath of the massacre, and outlines another set of mistakes and failures, including a disorganized system for tracking the whereabouts of students, which led to confusion over whether they were safe, and to one instance in which a parent of one victim was given false hope that the child was still alive.

Investigators also identified repeated incidents, captured on body cameras, of officials and other onlookers roaming through the school in the days after the shooting, forcing crime scene investigators to “continually stop” their evidence collection.

Barricaded stand-off? They didn't hear shots?

 

[Cool Cats]

Texas prosecutor convenes grand jury to investigate Uvalde shooting​

Updated 7:08 PM EST, January 19, 2024

https://www.expressnews.com/news/article/uvalde-grand-jury-investigation-school-shooting-18617556.php

The district attorney for Uvalde said Friday that a grand jury has been convened to review evidence and weigh possible criminal charges related to the 2022 Robb Elementary School mass shooting.

Mitchell has previously said that among the potential issues to be investigated is whether anyone helped the gunman buy weapons and ammunition and whether any law enforcement officer could be held criminally responsible for the bungled police response.

 

[HMSHood]

I have not seen a psychological profile of Salvador Ramos. We know a great of Eric Harris/Dylan Klebold, Adam Lanza, Seung-Hui Cho, and Elliot Rodger.

 

[Cool Cats]

@HMSHood -​

Salvador Ramos wanted notoriety so information about him is down played according to the report. This is why he is only referred to as "The Attacker"​

Here is some detailed information about "The Attacker"​

Robb Elementary Investigative Committee Report:

Robb Elementary Investigative Committee Report | PDF | Police | Incident Command System

Read the 77 page report here from the Texas House Committee investigating the law enforcement response to the mass shooting at Robb Elementary school in Uvalde on May 24, 2022.

www.scribd.com

Texas House report blames local, state and federal officers for 'systemic failure' in Uvalde

After weeks of changes in the official narrative about the response, the committee report was the clearest, most-detailed picture yet of what happened that day, during which local, state, and federal law enforcement waited for more than an hour to confront the gunman.

www.tpr.org

 

[Friday Fan]

I have not seen a psychological profile of Salvador Ramos. We know a great of Eric Harris/Dylan Klebold, Adam Lanza, Seung-Hui Cho, and Elliot Rodger.

He dropped out of school. Was a loner. Odd-ball weird. Somewhat chaotic home life without enough supervision or resources. He shot his grandmother (who survived) before his shot up the school.

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Uvalde school shooting suspect was a loner who bought two assault rifles for his 18th birthday | CNN

The gunman who killed 19 kids and two teachers at a Texas elementary school in Uvalde, Texas, was a local high school student with few if any friends who officials said legally purchased two assault rifles and scores of ammo last week for his 18th birthday.

www.cnn.com

Uvalde school shooter left trail of warning signs ahead of attack

The gunman who killed 19 children and two teachers at an elementary school in Uvalde, Texas left so many hints that he was violent and obsessed with notoriety that former classmates began calling him "school shooter."

www.pbs.org

Texas gunman left home after fight with mom about Wi-Fi, mother's boyfriend says

“He was kind of a weird one. I never got along with him. I never socialized with him. He doesn’t talk to nobody,” Juan Alvarez said.

www.nbcnews.com

who has been in a relationship with Ramos’ mother for about a year and lives with her, said Ramos had a tumultuous relationship with his mother, which often included fights.

Alvarez said Ramos left his mother’s home two months ago to live with his grandmother after he got into an intense argument with his mother after he disconnected the Wi-Fi.

Uvalde killer’s mom has screaming match with victim’s family, video shows

The killer’s mom, Adriana Martinez, shouted “may God forgive y’all” after she was chased down by the family of Amerie Jo Garza, one of the kids slaughtered by Ramos.

nypost.com

 

[HMSHood]

Thank you Cool Cats and Friday Fan.

Looking at Salvador Ramos, he came from a severely dysfunctional family. He has a lot of deep seated resentment issues and is likely an injustice collector. He is very controlling with sadistic tendencies. He is likely psychopath.

 

[Ladyotm]

I saw this posted earlier on WS and will search pacer for an update later. I believe she is being held without bond. She made threats against Uvalde in 2018, served time in a juvenile facility, and got out and started it right back up, until a few months ago. Wow! She needs to be locked away forever.

‘Ex’ of Uvalde mass shooter busted for repeatedly threatening community, victims’ families: feds

“But the fact that more blood is going to be drained through my hands, it makes me horny.”

nypost.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

City officials will be briefed on a third party outside investigation into the Uvalde Police Department's actions during the Robb Elementary School mass shooting in May of 2022, in which 21 people were killed.

On Thursday there will also be citizen input.

The Department of Justice released a scathing report in January saying "cascading failures" contributed to a gunman killing the 21 victims, but the final report stopped short of recommending Uvalde County DA Christina Mitchell file criminal charges against those who were responsible for keeping the children safe.

Uvalde, Texas officials to get third-party investigation on police response to shooting

More answers may be coming in the Uvalde, Texas, school shooting investigation. The city of Uvalde called for a special city council meeting this Thursday.

wjactv.com

 

[steeltowngirl]

I’m angry all over again.

Uvalde police officers ‘exonerated’ of wrongdoing, city’s investigation recommends

Nearly two years after the deadly shooting at Robb Elementary School, the Uvalde City Council will hear findings Thursday from an independent review it requested of its police force’s actions…

www.kxan.com

 

[x_files]

I’m angry all over again.

Uvalde police officers ‘exonerated’ of wrongdoing, city’s investigation recommends

Nearly two years after the deadly shooting at Robb Elementary School, the Uvalde City Council will hear findings Thursday from an independent review it requested of its police force’s actions…

www.kxan.com

CORRUPTION.

 

[sds71]

The Uvalde City Police Chief has resigned following the shocking reporting released by the city exonerating officers.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1767609612281548805

 

[SpicyFruit]

The Uvalde City Police Chief has resigned following the shocking reporting released by the city exonerating officers.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1767609612281548805

Uvalde police chief announces resignation after report on Robb Elementary School shooting

Chief Daniel Rodriguez's resignation takes effect April 6.

www.nbcnews.com

Uvalde police chief resigns after controversial report cleared officers who responded to school shooting

Daniel Rodriguez was out of town during the 2022 massacre. He told the local newspaper he was “not forced, asked or pressured” to resign.

www.texastribune.org

"Daniel Rodriguez was out of town during the 2022 massacre. He told the local newspaper he was “not forced, asked or pressured” to resign."

 

[sds71]

The city will pay out a total of $2 million to the families from its insurance coverage and also, separately, the families agreed to accept the $2 million limit of the Uvalde County insurance policy, saying pursuing more money could have plunged the city into bankruptcy, "something that none of the families were interested in as they look for the community to heal."

The families on Wednesday also announced lawsuits against 92 Texas Department of Public Safety officers. The suit said the officers were trained to first prioritize stopping the killing, then stopping the dying, then evacuating those hurt.

"Nearly 100 officers from the Texas Department of Public Safety have yet to face a shred of accountability for cowering in fear while my daughter and nephew bled to death in their classroom," Luevanos said.

Uvalde families reach settlement with city, county ahead of 2-year mark: Can 'begin rebuilding trust'

Families of some of the Uvalde, Texas, mass shooting victims have reached a settlement with the city and county of Uvalde.

abcnews.go.com

 

[sds71]

The chief of police for Uvalde schools has submitted his resignation more than a year after he replaced the man who held the position during the 2022 school massacre in the Texas city, according to a school official’s statement obtained by CNN affiliate KSATTuesday.

The resignation of Joshua Gutierrez, chief of police for the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, will be presented for approval at a June 17 school board meeting, according to district spokesperson Anne Marie Espinoza. If approved, his last day will be June 26, according to the KSAT report.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/22/us/uvalde-school-district-police-chief-resignation/index.html

 

[Cryptic]

"Nearly 100 officers from the Texas Department of Public Safety have yet to face a shred of accountability for cowering in fear while my daughter and nephew bled to death in their classroom," Luevanos said.

Suing individual officer, many of whom arrived on the scene at various times and many of whom were ordered not to take immediate action is a lawsuit too far in my opinion.

Officers already have a hard enough job with out worrying about whether they can be sued individually for not doing something that they were actually ordered not to do.

In the case, the orders were very flawed. But, should officers routinely second guess orders for fear of being sued?

 

[steeltowngirl]

Suing individual officer, many of whom arrived on the scene at various times and many of whom were ordered not to take immediate action is a lawsuit too far in my opinion.

Officers already have a hard enough job with out worrying about whether they can be sued individually for not doing something that they were actually ordered not to do.

In the case, the orders were very flawed. But, should officers routinely second guess orders for fear of being sued?

I do see your point, it’s a good one. I also pray that the horrific situation that unfolded in Uvalde never, ever becomes routine.

I feel there is a time when orders should be questioned. Thinking of the military court martial rule, something along the lines of an order is to be obeyed unless the accused knew the orders to be unlawful or a person of ordinary sense and understanding would have known the orders to be unlawful. If the orders the officers received in Uvalde were completely opposite of what their training had provided, they should have followed training protocol. But that’s just my (admittedly) emotional response. Uvalde shook me up as much as Sandy Hook. Maybe more, since I now have grandkids in elementary school in a busy area.

The lawsuits may be a bit too far. But I also want to never see another debacle where kids are slaughtered in a school massacre where they could have been saved with correct actions. If the fear of a lawsuit brings that assurance, then I am inclined to be ok with it.

Desperate times, desperate measures.

jmo

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[imstilla.grandma]

The companies – Meta, Activision and Daniel Defense – all contributed to the behavior of the shooter Salvador Ramos in one way or another, the suits allege.

Ramos downloaded the video game “Call of Duty: Modern Warfare” in November 2021, according to the complaint filed in California against the publisher of the game, Activision, Meta, and others.

The game featured a weapon from Daniel Defense called the DDM4 V7, which served as “a teaser for players eager to try out the weapon,” the suit alleges.

At the same time, Ramos “was being courted through explicit, aggressive marketing,” on Instagram, the suit said. Meta is the parent company of Instagram.

“In addition to hundreds of images depicting and glorifying the thrill of combat, Daniel Defense used Instagram to extol the illegal, murderous use of its weapons,” the suit said. “Within weeks of downloading Modern Warfare, the Shooter was browsing assault weapons, acquiring firearm attachments popularized by the game, and returning repeatedly to Daniel Defense’s website.”

“Mere minutes after midnight on May 16—the Shooter’s 18th birthday—he purchased a DDM4V7,” the suit said. “Eight days later, the Shooter inflicted unspeakable violence at Robb Elementary School, killing 21 and injuring and traumatizing many more.”

Publisher of Call of Duty, maker of AR-15 style rifle and Meta named in wrongful death lawsuits by families of Uvalde victims

Three companies are facing wrongful death lawsuits in the Uvalde school shooting of 2022, according to complaints filed in California and Texas.

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