cluciano63
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It is a shame if people won't talk to police because they don't "have" to...just my opinion of course...
IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #2
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This makes me furious if true. There is a missing girl. They have searched everywhere with no sign of her what so ever. It appears she went POOF...gone. Why are the police NOT tracking down these 2 guys? I don't care if they went out of town or out of state...why don't they go to them. What if one of these two were with Lauren, something happened, he panicked, and now she is in one of their trunks or something?? Ugh.
I wonder if one of them is JR.
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When I was in grad school at IU, I didn't follow the news. I was too busy in my studies.
Private search group Texas EquuSearch came at the request of Spierers' parents and authorities involved in the case.
We got our own sonar equipment. We got our own drop down cameras, ground penetration units, and drone airplanes," said Miller.
http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-spec...-find-lauren-spierer-20110612,0,4153146.story
The scenario I've been considering is a friend or friends from the altercation were waiting for CR and LS to head back to Smallwood. They were angry with CR for being with LS and planned to ambush him and beat him up. However, LS appeared alone and they took it out on her and things got out of hand. JMO
I don't believe it could be JR because we know he got a defense lawyer, so he would not be out of state.
My middle road is go, but I'm adamant on not without an attorney.
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Eluding the police will only serve to make the absent subjects appear guilty if later evidence points toward their involvement, or if a guilty party fingers them. If they're innocent, it's foolish to ignore LE's request for an interview.
At the end of his post, Gatto mentions "conflicting reports about whether Spierer went into Rosenbaums apartment." I'm not sure I understand what he means. Can anyone clarify?
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OK, take an attorney, but to not talk at all to police boggles my mind...I am hoping the guys with lawyers are still talking to police, with lawyers present, but somehow I doubt it...
He means that we still don't know whether JR supports the idea that LS went into his apartment or not.
By the way police is saying no one appears to be trying to elude police.
"“There are individuals we want to speak with…friends and associates … who we hope may be able to provide us with some valuable information,” Qualters said, adding that none of those people appear to be avoiding talking to the police."
http://www.wishtv.com/dpp/news/local/south_central/police-still-mum-on-search-for-lauren-spierer
Might be wishful thinking on my part, but I'm trying to hold on to LS's heart condition coming into play and leading to a panic and coverup with others. Alcohol, possibly drug use, fisticuffs, reputations, possible fear of suspensions from college, etc. coming into play. Likely, only BF knew about her medical condition.
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The whole situation started at Kilroy's. If the friends were staring LS & CR down, making gestures, comments or otherwise giving off indications that they were mad at his attention to her, the two of them may have decided to bounce. Perhaps they would have had to walk past the group to get to Lauren's shoes and cell phone. They did not want to chance walking near the group, so they left. May
Lauren decides to stop by her apartment to grab some shoes, the friends followed them and in their drunken mad stupor, thinks that LS & CR are there for another reason. Situation heats up further and the fight occurs.
She never makes it to her apartment for the shoes, now they leave to avoid the group. Lauren just wants to get CR home. In the process of getting there, her keys fall out of her pocket or are dropped and she does not know it.
She gets him home, roomie puts him to bed. Lauren leaves and goes to JR's. Tells him all about the events of the night, maybe realizes her keys are gone. Would she go back and try to retrace her steps to find them?
To me, Lauren at this point is not in an elevated state of fear. If she had been don't you think she would have called someone to either come get her or to walk home with her? She also could have just stayed put and slept on someone's couch.
The kicker for me at this point is where is her boyfriend? I have to believe the friends have told him what is going on. Is he out of town? Lauren does not have her cell phone after 2:30ish. He can't get a hold of her. Did she use someone's phone at some point to call or text him? Is she pizzed at his friends for behaving that way and wants to give JW a piece of her mind?
All these details that we don't have ...
The whole situation started at Kilroy's. If the friends were staring LS & CR down, making gestures, comments or otherwise giving off indications that they were mad at his attention to her, the two of them may have decided to bounce. Perhaps they would have had to walk past the group to get to Lauren's shoes and cell phone. They did not want to chance walking near the group, so they left. May
Lauren decides to stop by her apartment to grab some shoes, the friends followed them and in their drunken mad stupor, thinks that LS & CR are there for another reason. Situation heats up further and the fight occurs.
She never makes it to her apartment for the shoes, now they leave to avoid the group. Lauren just wants to get CR home. In the process of getting there, her keys fall out of her pocket or are dropped and she does not know it.
She gets him home, roomie puts him to bed. Lauren leaves and goes to JR's. Tells him all about the events of the night, maybe realizes her keys are gone. Would she go back and try to retrace her steps to find them?
To me, Lauren at this point is not in an elevated state of fear. If she had been don't you think she would have called someone to either come get her or to walk home with her? She also could have just stayed put and slept on someone's couch.
The kicker for me at this point is where is her boyfriend? I have to believe the friends have told him what is going on. Is he out of town? Lauren does not have her cell phone after 2:30ish. He can't get a hold of her. Did she use someone's phone at some point to call or text him? Is she pizzed at his friends for behaving that way and wants to give JW a piece of her mind?
All these details that we don't have ...
I don't think so.
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Not to my knowledge...
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So how do they know they should contact police? :waitasec:
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No, they don't. But Lauren has disappeared into thin air, there is a massive search going on for her. Common human decency and compassion predicates you to come forward.
If you have nothing to hide that is.
Yes, and the media pressed him on this. TENSION Perhaps, media code for: Would other POIs be able to leave to begin summer vacations, internships, etc. before speaking to LE? Is there a double standard going on?
I mean they haven't been named to the press. Whether they know that police want to talk to them that's a whole new question.
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http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-laur...rest-in-spierer-case-20110610,0,3876035.story
This story came out on the second or third day, and as far as I know, it hasn't changed. As far as I know, no one else has admitted having seen Lauren after she left CR's apartment, or seeing her enter JR's apartment. So, I'm wondering if I missed the "conflicting" report.
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