I think this should be SOP if/when someone is in that kind of contentious situation, just in case! If it's not needed, then cool...even if it's a dash cam or something.
Yes... I feel certain custody transfer laws are going to be changing after this.BBM - So perhaps part of the secrecy was also the safety of the Twombley's daughter. What a brave girl she is.
Also it's freaking heartbreaking that these 2 women were even in this situation. Jilian bringing a gun tells me all I need to know and those women should have NEVER been put in a situation to pick up kids in the middle of nowhere alone. For a pastors wife to feel the need to bring a gun says a lot about how she felt going in to this situation. I have no doubt someone was tracking them.. either they were on the phone or through an app that shares locations.. because someone afraid enough to bring a gun likely was also take precautions like location sharing.
I am pro gun so these comments aren't to say she shouldn't have had one, it's to say she should not have felt she needed one in this situation. If they were meeting up at the police station or somewhere very public, I think this would have had a very different ending.
Or he's dead?
Yes, right? When I read that, I thought wth? doesn't make sense.
And Cora Cole?Who is Paul Grice mentioned in these documents, and has he been arrested???
Shocked that they tried to kill VB back in February, too.
Court Documents: 4 suspects in missing Kansas women case part of anti-government group
Court documents show the details of the investigation that led to the arrest of four suspects in the murders of Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelley.www.newschannel10.com
Yes, but I can't imagine what she has been living with since the disappearance and arrests.
Wrangler knew? How so? which witness, the daughter?
Knowing about a crime and not reporting it isn’t a crime, but there might be more there they can get him on.
That’s entirely possible, but the fact we have someone involved who hasn’t yet been charged, seems to indicate a level of cooperation.Devil’s advocate for the theory one of the suspects lead LE to the bodies, I’m seeing in the below article it states, “Before Butler and Kelley’s disappearance on March 30 before 10:16 a.m. and 10:35 p.m., court documents reveal that the phones pinged at a property about 8.5 miles away from the car.” The bodies have also been described as being 8.5 miles away. I’m going to assume that is the same location.
Could LE have deduced where the bodies were likely located from the cell phone information and just waited until everyone was in custody before acting on it? That would explain the timing, along with the lack of general searching from LE. They knew where they needed to search they just wanted to get the suspects in custody first to avoid tipping them off by searching.
Court Documents: 4 suspects in missing Kansas women case part of anti-government group
Court documents show the details of the investigation that led to the arrest of four suspects in the murders of Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelley.www.newschannel10.com
Bbm.The daughter said Cora, Cole, Adams, Cullum and Paul Grice were part of an anti-government group that had a religious affiliation.
Through OSBI investigation, it was learned that they call their group God’s Misfits. Regular meetings are held weekly.
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When the daughter asked what happened, she was told “that things did not go as planned, but that they would not have to worry about her (Butler) again.”
The daughter asked about Kelley and why she had to die “and was told by Cora that she wasn’t innocent either, as she had supported Butler.”
The daughter asked Cora “if their bodies were put in a well, and Cora replied, ‘something like that.’”
The daughter also disclosed that other attempts to kill Butler occurred during February of 2024 near Hugoton, Kansas, in which Adams, Cullum, Cole, Cora and Grice went to Hugoton, but Butler did not leave her residence.
The daughter said “the plan was to throw an anvil through Butler’s windshield while driving, make it look like an accident because anvils regularly fall off of work vehicles.”
Court Documents: 4 suspects in missing Kansas women case part of anti-government group
Court documents show the details of the investigation that led to the arrest of four suspects in the murders of Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelley.
What on earth? Were they planning to kill the judge?Whoa. From the article.. was TA threatening to harm the custody judge?
“Rickman’s grandmother reported in February 2024, Rickman told her they didn’t have to worry about the custody battle much longer because Adams had it under control, that Adams knew the path the judge walked to work, and “we will take out Veronica at drop off.”
Court Documents: 4 suspects in missing Kansas women case part of anti-government group
Court documents show the details of the investigation that led to the arrest of four suspects in the murders of Veronica Butler and Jillian Kelley.
The mom told Wrangler that the custody
He also received death threats from TA and TC. Cops were called at one point. I'm thinking that he was also in fear of his life so unless he confesses his knowledge or involvement he probably will not be charged, imo.
