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Who knocks on a door at 3AM when they're going out to kidnap a child? There is something about this case that really bothers me.

This is Rogers' father and mother: Yeah, I think this is a good match.

After re-reading the talk I did with her sister, I noticed that she said that they did the DNA submission. If they don't have Debra's DNA but her sister's, it may be why NAMUS didn't match the DNA when it was submitted.

El Dorado Jane Doe left her family in Virginia in 1986. She was killed in Texas in 1991, 1,500 miles away and 5 years later. Her life was very problematic, maybe not to the extent of Brenda's, but enough for her to just cut her family off from all communication. I do understand your hesitation...

I really think she's a strong possibility, especially after this comparison was posted in Brenda's thread.

We had a good talk. I don't want to talk specifics out of respect for her family. I did invite her sister to this thread. EDIT: what I will say is that I showed her a side-by-side comparison of the second morgue photo. She noticed that both had the same scar on the nose.

That's my reaction, too.

Just got done talking with a sister of Brenda's Her mother's initials are THC Theresa Helen Crowley Just like the tattoo.

Helen Her mother's middle name is Helen Just got done talking with her sister.

Anyone think she could be 1313UFCT? https://doenetwork.org/cases/1313ufct.html Composites of the victim based upon description to Trenton PD from an acquaintance; Victim's ring; Sketch of ring done by Balfour Jewelers; Clothing; Curler set; Case used in robbery; FBI Wanted Poster for...

Does anyone know of her mother's middle name? The JD had a tattoo of T.H.C. She could be a stoner, but her mother's first and last name is Theresa Crawley. If her middle name starts with H, it could strengthen the case for the UID to be Brenda.

I made the submission to the Doenetwork. Hopefully I'll hear back soon.

It's in the Doe profile. Her killer was found and convicted of manslaughter. While it doesn't say why he killed her, the fact that they were both drinking makes me feel that he made advances and she refused which is why he ended up killing her.

Thanks for that. I've submitted it to Doe.

You've given me hope. Wow, you sure have.

Thank you Bagpus for the blow-up. Brenda and the JD look so close. But the nose...it's just quite a bit off. Brenda's nose is quite a bit thicker than JDs. I really wish it was her, but really, I can't say that it is now. They so look like they could be sisters.

The first scream that came out of my mouth when I saw the morgue photo (being 100% serious here) was "Oh my God, that's Brenda Crowley!" WARNING MORGUE PHOTO It's her! (Link to JD's Doenetwork page) https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/369ufms.html

She looks very very similar to Brenda Crowley https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/872dfny.html Look at her teeth. The nose is a bit off, but as you age your facial structures do slightly change. Is six years enough for a nose to become slimmer? I don't know. But damn do these two look...

https://www.doenetwork.org/cases-int/450dmnsw.html Name: Keith Nevil Brown Case Classification: Missing Missing Since: 27 July 1989 Location Last Seen: Wyong, New South Wales, Australia. Physical Description Date of Birth: September 11, 1965 Age: 23 years old Race: White Gender...

WOW. I'm in shock. I just saw the identification on the Unidentified Wiki and my mouth hit the floor.