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    Identified! PA - Philadelphia - 'Boy in the Box' - 4UMPA - Feb'57 - Joseph Augustus Zarelli #4

    My mother gave up a child long before I was born. We found out by accident but were absolutely forbidden to talk about it. My brother found us, all of the siblings met and we were STILL forbidden to discuss it. My mom has been gone for many years and my aunts and uncles still will not discuss it...
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    Identified! PA - Philadelphia - 'Boy in the Box' - 4UMPA - Feb'57 - Joseph Augustus Zarelli #4

    I agree. I don’t think he was institutionalized. I’m saying it was acceptable to place special needs children in institutions, so the idea of “hiding” him or beating him to death because he had issues is less likely given the times.
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    Identified! PA - Philadelphia - 'Boy in the Box' - 4UMPA - Feb'57 - Joseph Augustus Zarelli #4

    I’m not sure about if JAZ had developmental disabilities or not but….I’ve been reading quite a bit about my local “State school” where children with all kinds of disabilities were sent. It was encouraged to send special needs kids away in this time period. I feel like if he was unwanted and had...
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    Identified! PA - Philadelphia - 'Boy in the Box' - 4UMPA - Feb'57 - Joseph Augustus Zarelli #4

    Yes, they would only have value in this particular case if for some reason they needed an additional source if DNA. That being said when Paul Fronzack looked for birth certificates of children born to his bio mom he found yet another infant unaccounted for. It could potentially show patterns in...
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    Identified! PA - Philadelphia - 'Boy in the Box' - 4UMPA - Feb'57 - Joseph Augustus Zarelli #4

    I had this thought too. I was initially wondering if she had passed or became otherwise incapacitated but then there was the mention of additional siblings. Now I suspect that was when she married, maybe into a higher profile family since they mentioned “prominent family”. It could be that she...
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    Identified! PA - Philadelphia - 'Boy in the Box' - 4UMPA - Feb'57 - Joseph Augustus Zarelli #4

    Yes the “new husband” scenario definitely fits. As does moving in with other relatives. Multi generational households were much more common at that time.
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    Identified! PA - Philadelphia - 'Boy in the Box' - 4UMPA - Feb'57 - Joseph Augustus Zarelli #4

    The dichotomy in care screams to me that he was under the care of different people at various points in his life. Also if he only received medical care when he was sick or injured he may not have been vaccinated. I can’t speak to the 50’s but in my lifetime it’s been common place not to...
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    Identified! PA - Philadelphia - 'Boy in the Box' - 4UMPA - Feb'57 #3 - Joseph Augustus Zarelli

    I wonder if a family member was a medical professional and did things “off the books”
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    GUILTY PA - Jenna Burleigh, 22, Philadelphia, 31 Aug 2017 *Arrest*

    My daughter's dorm is across the street from the pub. She's lived on campus for 3 years, you need to use your common sense, like in any city. She chooses not to be out at night but I wouldn't worry if she went out at night in a group. I would worry about a young girl by herself anywhere. We live...
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    NH NH - Maura Murray, 21, Haverhill, 9 Feb 2004 - #13

    An alcohol problem complicated by mental illness.... or vice versa (many of which appear in the late teens early 20's) would explain all of those things. ==================================== It's no wonder there are so many rabbit trails in this case, Maura was behaving very strangely and had...
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    Lori Ruff Identified as Kimberly McLean of PA

    I have many good things in my life, money doesn't happen to be one of them. We are from Massachusetts and 2 of my 3 kids go to school in PA. My son went to Villanova where he most assuredly felt the class/money issue but stuck it out to graduation. My daughter started at St. Joe's but the...
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    MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #1

    I'm leaning one of two ways, it was an accidental but negligent death (hot car type) and Mom is worried her other children will be removed or go to foster care if she's arrested or that Mom is also a victim. I don't think it's going to be an "out there" scenario. I don't think it's as unusual to...
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    WA - Unidentified Male: "Lyle Stevik", Grays Harbor, 17 Sept 2001 - #5

    I think we're going to find (and I hope we do eventually find out) that he has some small or obscure thing in his life that parallels either the character Lyle in the book or even something in common with Joyce Carol Oates. Be it nationality or geography, I think we'll find something that...
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    Identified! PA - Philadelphia, 'Boy in the Box', WhtMale 4-6, 4UMPA, Feb'57

    Fluorescein stain is kept on hand by most doctors and veterinarians (I assume this is the dye as it's so common). He wouldn't have needed to see an ophthalmologist or even an optometrist to have it in his eye. I wouldn't be surprised if back in the day most orphanages had it on hand. Its...
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    Identified! OK - Oklahoma City, 'Sharon Marshall' 8UFOK, Apr'90 - Suzanne Sevakis

    Darn it, I can't find the information I was looking for but the way it was worded was that Sandi and Floyd met one season in 74 and she was jailed in a different season in 75 (I feel horrible being this vague but I DID have to walk away from this case for a bit for my own sanity LOL). I remember...
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    Identified! OK - Oklahoma City, 'Sharon Marshall' 8UFOK, Apr'90 - Suzanne Sevakis

    I'm not in a position at the moment to find supporting evidence but I think the baby brother was older than this baby. I keep seeing him talked about as an infant but I thought he was closer to pre- toddler/toddler stage. I will do some digging tonight.
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    Identified! MA - Granby, off Route 116, WhtFem 15-26, UP14969, shallow grave, clothes, gold ring, Nov'78 - Patricia Ann Tucker

    Yes it may have been true that the college population didn't go anywhere and they would have been primarily confined to Amherst and Northampton, And while Massachusetts as a whole is now and always has been a fairly well educated state. I would say going to college was less common in towns like...
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    Identified! MA - Granby, off Route 116, WhtFem 15-26, UP14969, shallow grave, clothes, gold ring, Nov'78 - Patricia Ann Tucker

    My husband was born and raised in the next town over(and we still live in town) and every teenager had a car. You couldn't get anywhere without one. Cars were easily had, much cheaper and easily worked on. My husband can't think of one friend that didn't have a car in those days. Perhaps some...
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    Identified! OK - Oklahoma City, 'Sharon Marshall' 8UFOK, Apr'90 - Suzanne Sevakis

    Well yes, I took it that way. I'm just saying it isn't written that way, which just says to me to take anything on the page with a grain of salt.
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    Identified! OK - Oklahoma City, 'Sharon Marshall' 8UFOK, Apr'90 - Suzanne Sevakis

    I have to LOL a little bit at that page. I'm not sure if it's that it's written by someone very young or it just isn't written clearly but... the way it's worded it questions why her parents didn't put up a website in the 70's as well as questioning if Floyd emptied out her bank account and sent...

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