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  1. Controversialist

    Legal Questions for our Verified Lawyers #4

    With respect to ICA's convictions on counts 4-7 (lying to LE): I assume that when the trial started, the state and defense had already agreed on these four lies. Did the defense ever contest them? If not, I'm wondering why the jury deliberated on these at all. Could the jury actually...
  2. Controversialist

    What questions are still unanswered?

    IMO this is actually a very perceptive observation. But if true, then ICA took a hellacious risk by celebrating in conjunction with lying for years to cover up this fortunate accident, knowing that Caylee's body was a quarter mile away with duct tape on it. And ICA's entire Pontiac Sunfire...
  3. Controversialist

    What questions are still unanswered?

    Thank you. This idea has been like a hobgoblin lurking in the back of my mind. JB's pool accident details were elastic. So ICA might have been able to use the pool as a weapon before GA found Caylee in the pool. But if GA found Caylee in the pool, I don't see why he would then hide this...
  4. Controversialist

    If you agree or disagree with the verdict, let us know why

    Wow. Never saw that before with such clarity. If that was found in the Sunfire trunk after June 16, 2008, it certainly convinces me that Caylee was there and, for other reasons, I would assume ICA, not GA, put her there. :tears::tears:
  5. Controversialist

    If you agree or disagree with the verdict, let us know why

    IMO, given these assumptions, one may still ask: [] why both GA and ICA failed to call 911, [] why ICA concealed this story for over 2 years, and [] why GA treated Caylee's body with less respect than he had his pets. :saber::saber::saber:
  6. Controversialist

    If you agree or disagree with the verdict, let us know why

    Precisely. One reason I've heard why ICA made the "accident" look like a murder is because she was afraid of CA. But to let ICA off on that excuse sets a terrible precedent: A mother can now kill a child, obstruct the investigation that might solve the crime, and go free. Why...
  7. Controversialist

    If you agree or disagree with the verdict, let us know why

    IMO these are fair questions, but IIRC, JB in the trial never presented any thing specific to corroborate this line of thought. If so, then it seems JB left out a critical foundation to his case (not that this mattered to the jury, in retrospect). This scenario where GA was officially...
  8. Controversialist

    What questions are still unanswered?

    IMO you have a very fair question. IMO ICA's version of the pool story is false because of logical inferences (as I see them) concerning both ICA's and GA's conduct after the proposed accident. Along these lines, I dismiss: (1) that ICA, for two years, and with an iron will, covered...
  9. Controversialist

    What questions are still unanswered?

    I would love to give ICA the benefit of the doubt and believe this. But I think we need a plausible reason why ICA broke with the norm by failing to call 911, then covering up this story for over 2 years.
  10. Controversialist

    What questions are still unanswered?

    I believe you are absolutely right. Thanks for the insight. For ICA to have written the diary entry in question would be, IMO, suggestive of guilt, but I grant that it would not be conclusive of guilt, because ambiguity could exist as to her motive. :pcguru:
  11. Controversialist

    If you agree or disagree with the verdict, let us know why

    IMO your summation is very astute. We may ask: "Did Caylee have regular pediatrician check-ups, to detect physical abuse from being rented out or otherwise mistreated?" If not, why not? And as you noted, ICA's pool story faces formidable, logical obstacles. Just to reiterate two of...
  12. Controversialist

    What questions are still unanswered?

    I'm with you on this diary business. IIRC prior to trial there was discussion by trial watchers on this very point you made about examining the ink attributes. Not sure where that ended up. I don't recall the SA's trying to make any hay from it. As to GA denying the pool story, we then...
  13. Controversialist

    What questions are still unanswered?

    Since even legal experts disagree hotly about this case, I offer only my semi-educated position, and respect your right to differ. But IMO, even conceding that no forensic evidence pointed to Casey, there was sufficient non-forensic evidence for a felony conviction. As a juror, I would...
  14. Controversialist

    What questions are still unanswered?

    I appreciate the detailed thought you've put into this case. Clearly, sincere people (even legal experts) can differ on the outcome. I work from the premises below: [] --- This case was not primarily about forensic evidence. [] --- The jury had only two options on Caylee's death: It was...
  15. Controversialist

    What questions are still unanswered?

    Thanks for that insight. Well, that's an eye-opener. If I follow, this means this diary entry was altered to appear to be a 2003 entry, but a 2003 entry could not of course be in a 2004 dairy. I wonder if the precise date of the entry could then be determined. Also, switching gears, and...
  16. Controversialist

    2011.07.11 Greta Van Sustern interview with Jury Foreperson

    I agree that the jury had the legal right to render ICA's felony acquittal. But this only tells us what the jury in fact did. It doesn't logically justify this outcome. The jury could have said "we believe the Easter Bunny did it," and their verdict would still stand legally. But...
  17. Controversialist

    2011.07.11 Greta Van Sustern interview with Jury Foreperson

    I appreciate your input, but could you please elaborate on this conclusion?
  18. Controversialist

    2011.07.11 Greta Van Sustern interview with Jury Foreperson

    Thanks for this helpful research.
  19. Controversialist

    2011.07.11 Greta Van Sustern interview with Jury Foreperson

    IMO you make excellent sense of what happened. But IMO this outcome reflects a serious flaw in the current jury system. We assume the jurors all had no conviction either way (defense or state), but then this "neutral" jury rendered a ruling for ICA that was not neutral. ICA's felony...
  20. Controversialist

    2011.07.11 Greta Van Sustern interview with Jury Foreperson

    I respect your well-expressed position, but IMO: [] A juror who says "I don't believe the pool story," should have convicted ICA of a felony against Caylee. [] ICA would only tell a false pool story to conceal her own felony toward Caylee. There is no other reason for ICA to make up the...

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