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The quickest answer to give you something to consider for RDI, what if the strangulation was not actually part of the staging? What if PR or JR found JBR not only hit in the head (which they may have even not realized) but obviously strangled? That removes any chance of claiming she fell, or...

Before DM I think the statistics would've pointed to someone she knows. Random abduction I believe is statistically rather small. But that changes completely once there's someone caught and convicted for randomly abducting someone as well as a sexual assault in the same general area. Whether...

http://www.wbiw.com/local/archive/2018/04/convicted-murder-daniel-messel-sentenced-to-15-years-in-rape-case.php

At this point I have to give the JW scenario equal weight to the 5N scenario, and I think DM has to go right in there as well. I think the waters are sufficiently muddy around this case by this point that it's impossible from the outside looking in to be too certain about any particular scenario.

Actually, LS could've made the call to JW for that matter. The only problem with these scenarios is that LE would know of these calls so if they lied about them that should easily lead LE to unravel their stories. Otherwise the assumption would have to be they admitted to them up front and...

First I've heard about a planned Disney World Cruise. I wonder if any jealousy angles were explored with BR concerning this upcoming cruise? Does this planned cruise fit with school schedules for both JBR and BR?

And therein lies a problem... We're trying to interpret an event (or events even) that we've not seen at all and basing it on other people's interpretations of these events. Even people with only indirect or partial connections themselves sometimes. Then mix in rumor, innuendo, hearsay, flawed...

The problem with this is, she was already in her apartment building. She didn't have to follow him away if she didn't want to. If the people there were truly looking out for her then she easily had empowerment to say "No, I'm staying here". Meanwhile, if those people were truly looking out for...

Certainly it's been said that at one point he carried her (on his back) but where has it ever been said he "dragged her"? I know at least one poster would embellish the narrative with extra-descriptive words like that, but I don't recall 'dragging' as being part of the official narrative. Of...

It also bears mentioning that 5N 'did' cooperate to some degree. Much of what is on record wouldn't even exist if they hadn't. JR even had a meeting with the parents (albeit with attorneys present). The story of their lack of cooperation has more to do with refusing to be questioned multiple...

I don't recall anything about a missing key or roommate unavailable. I don't think that is common knowledge or a normal part of the narrative because I think I'd remember that. Is there a link to that anywhere?

It still could be those people. But to your point... There was a rather quick rush to judgment that took place pointing the finger at 5N. Not so much from law enforcement, but law enforcement didn't do much to change that either. The parents didn't help matters much either, making direct...

Interesting info on DM and several other incidents allegedly connected to him that were reported to police but allegedly not elevated in seriousness by LE enough to make a difference. These were from 2012. Apparently, they've had his DNA since '97 but didn't run the sample that was collected...

That's a pretty good drive though. It's got to be an hour, probably a little more, to Greensburg just to get to the Interstate. And I'm not sure someone looking to dump a body would be wanting to get to the Interstate. And then it's still a ways to Ohio via 74. And the Interstate is taking them...

There's not really a good highway leading directly from Bloomington to Ohio. But there is a highway going directly from Bloomington to Columbus, IN.. I wonder in a passed down, telephone game type version of a story if Columbus, IN got transposed to Columbus, OH and finally just Ohio? Highway 46...

I agree you. I've basically said the same things several times. DM does move himself up in the conversation IMO by certainly fitting a profile of a random stranger though. But JW's actions, particularly how quickly he jumped to claim her missing, just seem wrong to me. Once he knew she didn't...

Or maybe her "friends" had nothing to do with it....

Was there ever any resolution to the girl in Bloomfield that went missing? Of course some people still think the wrong person was arrested and sentenced in the Jill Behrmen case. One of the problems is going to be DM's already in prison. And there's someone in prison for Jill Behrmen too. In...

If LE suspected there was likely a serial rapist/killer involved they apparently wanted to downplay that angle and were more than happy to allow 5N people to flop in the wind even as it caused the family to suspect and go after them as well as the media following the bread crumbs laid out. Of...

I think they would've just called it an accident. She was clowning around in the tub and fell. Or she wasn't wanting to take her bath and struggling and fell. Something along those lines would be the reason given. But that assumes they thought she was dead. I think they'd call an ambulance...