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How do you know the car was parked across the street? Pretty sure that was speculation?

I have an agreement with my kid that if she ever needs me to pick her up somewhere but doesn’t want to admit she wants to leave, all she has to do is text me a random weird emoji we don’t typically use. That is the sign that I need to make up a reason to call and make her come home right now...

Yes! I just posted something similar. Mindset is a very interesting choice of word to use if she was just drunk or high.

That is my understanding. They were near the campground but based on the videos of the location of it and what my cousins told me, (my cousins call the party place the Sanctuary and say it’s well used), it’s not an actual campground. Edit to add even if it was in the actual campground, they...

I simply choose not to believe SS that Kiely was planning to stay overnight. She seems like an honest, dependable kid that her mother trusted. She told her mother she was coming home, she always came home before, so I am disregarding what SS and ML say about whether she planned to drive home or...

Based on what my younger cousins say who live in the area (but were out of town when this party happened), most people who go just sleep in the cars, in camping chairs, some throw sleeping bags on the ground, they just party until they pass out. It’s not “camping” in the sense that you’re...

MOO: With 4 campuses attached to that Charter school and around 100 attendees at the party, it would be pretty easy for some creep to be lurking around. Don’t recognize them? Kids would assume they’d attended another campus or graduated the year prior or whatever. All they would have to do is...

I’m so glad this guy has finally had to come to trial for what he did. I hope justice is served for those two girls.

Everything was pulled for cleanup and then the thread was merged with this one. WS has stricter rules because WS is devoted to protecting victims and innocents. That seems reasonable to me.

Thank you. I’m sure that was a lot of work. We appreciate you guys.

This poor family. I’m so heartbroken for them.

Same.

If someone posts something they aren’t supposed to, for the love of Pete don’t quote it saying we aren’t supposed to post it. That just makes more work for the mods. Report it.

I think it’s either a local middle aged man or an older teen male. Potentially someone who groomed her and she trusted him enough to follow him off the path to where she died. I think local since they told the public to me aware and not let kids outside alone (paraphrased). I hope it’s a local...

I feel so bad for the people in this town. As a child this would have caused me so much fear and anxiety. I was 10 when Polly Klaas was kidnapped and even though it wasn’t in my town, it was not far from me and it was a defining moment in my life. I realized that evil exists and that our safety...

its important to remember we are talking about a matter of blocks. Any way she went was like a 4-5 minute bike ride, if that. And “busier roads” is likely not very busy at all on a Sunday evening in a small town. I highly doubt there was much traffic. But there is no way to know how she ended...

we don’t know that she did. Whoever took her may have moved her. Or forced her to go that way.

This is devastating on so many levels. I know it’s early in the investigation but the killer had a long head start towards either getting out of town or covering their tracks. If it’s not a local or someone who frequents the area, I can easily see this case going cold unless there is camera...

The local posting here who can see the trail from her house said that it’s not really a trail in the sense that we all picture a trail. It’s like a very short walking path people just call the trail.

Agreed. This place doesn’t seem super isolated or anything. Anyone depraved yet opportunistic enough could have easily scouted a place to lure a little girl before finally finding one to snatch.