FL - Somer Thompson, 7, Orange Park, 19 Oct 2009 #35

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Dr.Fessel said:
You know that is strange. It was almost like the cops were telling the perp not to do that.
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I hate to say it, but their "profile" is nothing more than general characteristics some people show after commiting a crime. All it's designed to do is get people to take a closer look at the people near them.

Case in Point:
This link has nothing to do with Somer's case- this link is about the killings in Jennings, LA- but please click and go to the more information page. It is almost word for word what the sherrif released as a "profile" for Somer's case.

http://www.jeffdaviscrimes.net/

Their Non-profile profile is also designed to make the perp think that ANYTHING they do will be noticed.

I do hope they have a POI and they're just crossing their T's and dotting their I's. Everyday when I get up, I hope today's the day when they've made an arrest.
 
New1 said:
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No, because that was the address used for her place of employment on the MPR. It's a FACT that the Jacksonville office is listed on the MPR.
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sorry, I meant orange park. Will go back and edit my post.
I knew she said Jax office. I just typed wrong in my post. That's a FACT
 
I just watched the video of Diena and her attorney. I believe she was really crying and almost sobbing a few times, but was quickly able to compose herself to go on with the interview. Had to sniff a couple of times. She really looks good. I love the highlights in her hair. They showed her hands twice, and I'm wondering if she was wearing an engagement ring on her left hand?
What I found extremely odd and haven't seen mentioned is a couple of inconsistencies in the statements. Diena said the not knowing about what happened to Somer is hard because it might not have been as bad as some things she could imagine. Then later her attorney says that it was probably someone who had been "doing something they shouldn't be doing" and in their perversion took the opportunity to grab Somer, but may never do it again. What??? Never do it again, acting out one time from viewing child *advertiser censored*, yet will probably never do it again and what was done to Somer may not be as bad as they might have imagined. Okayyyy
 
I had transcribed the snipped bit with the dog handler. I'm sure the link doesn't work because the videos all are going poof ...

So ... I don't know if you want to call this FACT or RUMOR.

Transcription by me. May not be exact.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer

Melanie Russel – The dog handler whose dog Kaluha lost Somer’s scent at DeBarry and Gano.



REPORTER: We are 4 to 5 blocks from Somer's school, on Gano. Kahlua, the dog, is tracking the scent of a little girl.

MELANIE: I used her bed sheets.

REPORTER: Office Melanie Russell of St. John's County Sheriff's Department.

MELANIE: I just pass it under her nose; she knows that's what she ... the scent she needs to look for, and we're off.

REPORTER: But the conditions could be better.

MELANIE: If it was all grass or in the woods, it would be per -- ideal conditions. But unfortunately urban conditions like this, the scent is going to bake off the pavement, esp. of all the contamination of the cars going by, people walking by it blows the scent around. Scent's like smoke. So all that activity is blowing the smoke everywhere. So she might be walking on the opposite side of the street. All the activity is blowing the smoke

REPORTER: At least though it's not 85-90 degrees, when scents bake off she said. Kahlua lost the scent at this intersection of DeBarry and Gano.

Scents last a week, so is this where Somer possibly disappeared, or did Kahlua just pick up the scent of Somer's normal path home?
 
That does not mean there wasn't another dog who didn't lose her scent. They only reported on Kahlua.
 
Kimberlyd125 said:
I still think there is a lot more to the whole Vinson / Kyle / Somer's house / Gano house thing.

I was hoping more info would come of the evidence they collected. Do we know for sure or not that the tests have come back?

I thought they were still waiting but the news piece before DT's interview this morning made it sound like the tests had come back and they didn't really find anything with them.
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To me it says it came back but everything they found was related to those whose they expected to find.:waitasec:
 
Dr.Fessel said:
Did anyone ever find out who is the partner with Vinson in his business? I ask this since he was questioned for hours.
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https://www.myfloridalicense.com/LicenseDetail.asp?SID=&id=7D607AB6D28C3A2694C912C91DD2FAE6

He has no business partner listed. His sister is the one who referred to the business partner. I figured it was Kyle and tried to look up related licenses for Kyle with various last names of other key players, but came up empty handed.

From http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/special/somer/news-article.aspx?storyid=147122&catid=338

The Vinsons' sister Alissa Barrs, who lives at the same address in Mandarin as George Vinson, said her brothers have been questioned by police. She said on Friday afternoon that George Vinson, 33, worked at the Gano home about two months ago, but then found other work.


James Vinson and his business partner were interrogated for hours by detectives on Thursday, she said, and George Vinson was being questioned Friday.
 
I just want to add that somer is beautful to me in every pic too. Her personality shines through. Her outer beauty does not matter to me in the least. But IMO, she was a neglected child and the earliest pics reflect that to me. Her pic displayed every where is what.. 3 yrs old?

The new pictures show her at her latest and yes they are beautiful. I wonder if they came from gma?
 
txsvicki said:
I just watched the video of Diena and her attorney. I believe she was really crying and almost sobbing a few times, but was quickly able to compose herself to go on with the interview. Had to sniff a couple of times. She really looks good. I love the highlights in her hair. They showed her hands twice, and I'm wondering if she was wearing an engagement ring on her left hand?
What I found extremely odd and haven't seen mentioned is a couple of inconsistencies in the statements. Diena said the not knowing about what happened to Somer is hard because it might not have been as bad as some things she could imagine. Then later her attorney says that it was probably someone who had been "doing something they shouldn't be doing" and in their perversion took the opportunity to grab Somer, but may never do it again. What??? Never do it again, acting out one time from viewing child *advertiser censored*, yet will probably never do it again and what was done to Somer may not be as bad as they might have imagined. Okayyyy
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IMO that statement by the lawyer, " but may never do it again" was extremely odd. He said he wasn't in the loop (so to speak) with LE (wasn't he supposed to be a liaison) at least that is what was previously said by him...if not why say anything??? I have been on record of not having my mind made up in anyway; but the more theses two speak..make me think & question things. :banghead:
 
I hoped they had unknown forensics (DNA) that had been found on Somer and hoped that when they tested known DNA (from RSOs, family, friends, coworkers, etc.) they would come up with a match.

If there was no stranger DNA on Somer, then would it not mean that she was killed by one of the people whose DNA was found on her?

That's what made me think there was stranger DNA on her ...

Since the keeping quiet hasn't worked very well for the Sheriff ... maybe he'd like to open up a bit.
 
Did Diena's lawyer have a loved one who was a victim of human trafficking? Does anyone know how he and his wife got involved in this?
 
Noway said:
Did Diena's lawyer have a loved one who was a victim of human trafficking? Does anyone know how he and his wife got involved in this?
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I did a searched last night & couldn't find a tie, may someone else found something?
 
Kimberlyd125 said:
So, I guess DT should not go on TV and keep Somer's story in the national spot light.
I guess everyone should just forget about Somer.

IMO at least DT is trying to keep Somer in the view of others, so we don't forget her. I think it's a good thing to do to mark the 3 month anniversary of this tragedy.
She's trying to remind people this can happen to our children.

Like one poster said earlier, she's the only one who seems to be doing this. Where's the rest of Somer's family?
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:waitasec:Maybe just maybe the rest of Somers family doesn't want to be in the media limelight and are still grieving in their on private way.
 
Noway said:
I had transcribed the snipped bit with the dog handler. I'm sure the link doesn't work because the videos all are going poof ...

So ... I don't know if you want to call this FACT or RUMOR.

Transcription by me. May not be exact.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video/default.aspx?maven_playerId=immersiveplayer

Melanie Russel – The dog handler whose dog Kaluha lost Somer’s scent at DeBarry and Gano.



REPORTER: We are 4 to 5 blocks from Somer's school on Gano. Kahlua, the dog, is tracking the scent of a little girl.

MELANIE: I used her bed sheets.

REPORTER: Office Melanie Russell of St. John's County Sheriff's Department.

MELANIE: I just pass it under her nose; she knows that's what she ... the scent she needs to look for, and we're off.

REPORTER: But the conditions could be better.

MELANIE: If it was all grass or in the woods, it would be per -- ideal conditions. But unfortunately urban conditions like this, the scent is going to bake off the pavement, esp. of all the contamination of the cars going by, people walking by it blows the scent around. Scent's like smoke. So all that activity is blowing the smoke everywhere. So she might be walking on the opposite side of the street. All the activity is blowing the smoke

REPORTER: At least though it's not 85-90 degrees, when scents bake off she said. Kahlua lost the scent at this intersection of DeBarry and Gano.

Scents last a week, so is this where Somer possibly disappeared, or did Kahlua just pick up the scent of Somer's normal path home?
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It only means she was picked up by her killer that day. I think her killer had a car and she willingly went in. Now who would have a car that she would willingly go into. Has to be an authority figure or someone who has given her rides in the past. Not a stranger. Could be PC, very likely in my book.
 
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