Does Casey Know Who Caylee's Father Is?

Pattymarie said:

I think when the father is revealed it will be a huge moment in this case.

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lisalei321 said:

I don't think it was rape, no basis for why I think that, I just don't. I think she knows and it was a power play to her mom, I can almost hear her say something along the lines of "if you don't like how I'm doing blah blah blah I'll just give her to her father and you'll never see her again" I kinda think she was getting money from the bio dad, cash maybe so there was no record, because I have a hard time believing someone can steal enough from their family for 2+ years and not get in trouble for it.

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Brini said:

I think she would have used a rape to gain sympathy among her friends.

My guess is that the reason for the "smoke and mirrors" is quite simply: 1) KC lies all the time. It is her nature. 2) She has not gone after anyone for child support because she dates a lot of students and marginally employed club rats. Her crowd doesn't have the financial means. 3) Uncle Rick said he thinks she doesn't know, because she got pregnant at a party on December 4th, 4) She likes to keep her parents confused-- it's her way of getting some freedom, and it's a control mechanism. It also keeps them embarrassed about never knowing much about her. 5) If she keeps everybody confused about paternity, she can use it as a tool to control a guy. Like she used it to get JG to offer her marriage.

So, KC can potentially get a lot of mileage if she keeps paternity secret, if she even KNOWS. And, if she DOESN"T know, it would be even MORE important to obfuscate.

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FightTheOstrich said:

I still have a difficult time with point 3. Uncle Rick would have gotten this info from CA or his mother. My gut tells me that she did not tell him this b/c appearances mean so much to this family. My guess is that this is a scenario that he put together. No way would CA say to her mother or brother, "look, KC was @ a party, they hooked up and now she is pregnant". No Way.

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FightTheOstrich said:

CA supported Caylee and KC financially b/c she wanted control over her granddaughter. I still believe the paternity issue was originally dropped after it was determined that JG was not the father. CA did not want to share custodial rights w/ another family.

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FORDANIEL said:

I voted I don't know.simply because I don't know! The possibilities are endless,multiple partners,married man,FOB does know/doesn't know/doesn't care,sex party,and of course the sinister incest question.
I do know that IF any one was going after the FOB for money/support,that shared custody could be a problem for this family.
I also do believe that it is relevant as far as I believe that FOB and or his family have a right to this info,and let them decide if they care/don't care.
Remember,the OJ trial and there is always the possibility of a wrongful death suit,for ANY money made off of this case-that is if FOB did not know prior to this that he fathered Caylee,or his family did not know.

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april_showers said:

pulling together a few important points from a few brilliant ws-ers, plus a few of my own

IMO...

1. People keep mentioning the "change" in KC; she was quieter / more reserved / a better person back then. I don't think KC's personality suddenly changed. She's always been a chameleon. I think what changed was that, sometime a long the way, she stopped playing the role of good daugher / studious high schooler, etc. She probably used to work very hard to appease CA, keep up appearences, etc., to obtain the privileges of a "good" daughter. She couldn't even admit to CA that she was pregnant, because it would shatter that facade.

2. For whatever reason, admitting who Caylee's father was would further damage that image. One night stand she can't remember? Too many guys in a short time frame? (less likely in my opinion, but a possibility). An older, married man? That Latino guy she always thought was hot? (sorry, not meaning to be offensive, but we have heard that CA could be innapropriately judgmental in that way). Either way, it presented a better image to latch on to Jesse - "look mom, we're being responsible grown-ups, getting married, etc"- until Jesse actually had the nerve to count backwards, get a DNA test, and put an end to that whole scenario.

2. At that point, KC is still trying to maintain the good daughter image (CA is, after all, her "best friend), and any of the above scenarios would not go over well. In comes this straight-out-of-a-soap-opera car accident story. Not believable in the least, but...

3. ...the perfect scenario for CA! KC is still a good daughter - a victim, actually - and the BEST part is... CA doesn't have to share her precious Caylee with anyone! She hated those pesky Grund's being involved with HER darling grandaughter. She'd much rather go with this mystery father theory than have to share with anyone else - even if it meant giving up those support checks a long the way (which, IMO, if existed would go straight to CA, with KC receiving an allowance where CA saw fit). CA's happy she gets Caylee, KC is happy she doesn't have to admit any further transgressions, and that's that.

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3doglady said:

Dr Baden was just on Greta and stated that the police know who the father is by Caylee's DNA

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Jubilee said:

Thanks for sharing that. I was pretty sure I had heard him say that around the time the remains were identified.

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Pink Panther said:

I remember this as well but it doesn't make any sense. They need the mother's dna, the father's dna and Caylee's dna to determine who the father is!

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Jubilee said:

So, I guess the paternal sample either already existed or have been taken recently. Maybe the father that died in the car crash (both stories said car crash, right?) had been drinking and maybe they took a blood sample and maybe they have kept the sample for three years and .... . Or, as I said earlier, it would be interesting to see a list of everyone LE has gotten a sample from, either voluntarily or compelled.

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Pink Panther said:

They have to have the father's sample in order to determine if he is Caylee's father. I'm not sure why Baden would word his statement the way he did but it doesn't make sense???

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Shaymus at The Rock said:

How did he word it ?

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