AZ AZ - Phoenix, Wht/HispMale UP1924, 16-19, at water treatment plant, Jun'90

[ebonydarkness]

http://doenetwork.org/cases/1660umaz.html
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/1924

Unidentified Male
Date of Discovery: June 8, 1990
Location of Discovery: Phoenix, Maricopa County, Arizona
Estimated Date of Death: Days prior to discovery
State of Remains: Not recognizable, decomposing
Cause of Death: Unknown

Physical Description
** Listed information is approximate

Estimated Age: 16-19 years old
Race: White
Gender: Male
Height: 6'0"
Weight: Unknown
Hair Color: Brown
Eye Color: Unknown

Distinguishing Marks/Features: Unknown

Dentals: Available.
Fingerprints: Not available.
DNA: Available.
Clothing & Personal Items
Clothing: Blue tank top with “Colorado University Boulder” on the front, white sweatshirt with the 1988 Olympic logo, black pants, and white tennis shoes with black laces.

Jewelry: Unknown

Additional Personal Items: Papers and a matchbook for “Barley’s Restaurant.”

Case History

The victim's decomposing remains were found in a holding tank at a water treatment plant at 22nd Street near Lincoln in Phoenix. The tank had been flushed with chemicals that rendered the body unidentifiable.

 

[thefragile7393]

Wow. What a difficult case

 

[ebonydarkness]

University of Colorado students (but all 3 disappeared before the 1988 Olympics):

Fabian Del Rosario
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/delrosario_fabian.html

Douglas Meer
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/meer_douglas.html

Jon Haynes
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/haynes_jon.html

 

[bcf]

It would be good if they released more information about the matchbook. I've found three restaurants named Barley's so far:

Barley’s Sports Bar & Lounge
Atlanta, GA
http://www.yelp.com/biz/barleys-sports-bar-and-lounge-atlanta

Uncle Barley’s Restaurant & Pub
Saskatoon, SK, Canada
http://www.yelp.ca/biz/uncle-barleys-restaurant-and-pub-saskatoon

Professor M Barley’s
Albany, NY
http://www.yelp.com/biz/professor-m-barleys-albany

 

[carbuff]

I wonder if it's Lady Falconburgh's Barley Exchange in Durango, Colorado: http://www.fodors.com/world/north-america/usa/colorado/southwest-colorado/review-188780.html, http://www.ladyfalconburgh.biz/

It's a popular tourist restaurant summer and winter. The Carbuff family ate there a few years back when we visited Mesa Verde National Park.

Durango is about 7 hours drive from Boulder.

 

[carbuff]

Exclusions on https://identifyus.org/en/cases/1924

The following people have been ruled out as being this decedent:

First Name Last Name Year of Birth State LKA

Scott Hilbert Unknown Ohio
Robert Kellar 1969 Iowa

 

[carbuff]

Updated link: Unidentified Person Case

Ruleouts:
MP7847 Fabian Del Rosario 08/28/1987 Boulder CO
MP7926 Scott Hilbert 03/13/1988 Clermont OH
MP15021 Robert Kellar 02/12/1990 Muscatine IA
MP7850 Douglas Meer 03/29/1982 Boulder CO
MP12133 Santana Ornelas 04/01/1990 Marin CA

 

[Melt71]

One of the other groups mentioned the matchbook and paperwork was for Barley's Restaurant- 20th St/Camelback (I believe the address hadn't been posted here before, only the name). That's a Phoenix address, so I wonder what the "papers" were?

Also wanted to link the police bulletin here https://www.phoenix.gov/policesite/Documents/090554.pdf

 

[carbuff]

Updated link: Unidentified Person Case

Ruleouts:
MP7847 Fabian Del Rosario 08/28/1987 Boulder CO
MP7926 Scott Hilbert 03/13/1988 Clermont OH
MP15021 Robert Kellar 02/12/1990 Muscatine IA
MP7850 Douglas Meer 03/29/1982 Boulder CO
MP12133 Santana Ornelas 04/01/1990 Marin CA

No new ruleouts. The Maricopa County Office of the Medical Examiner is listed as the responsible agency. The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[snowgoose]

Images of this John Doe's white 1988 Olympics sweatshirt were added to the NamUs page in November 2020.

The profile also states "It should be noted that this clothing was found near the body and it is uncertain whether it belonged to the decedent."

 

[carbuff]

Added to exclusions:

MP7847 Fabian Del Rosario 08/28/1987 Boulder CO
MP6159 Christopher Harvey 07/11/1984 Hinsdale CO
MP7926 Scott Hilbert 03/13/1988 Clermont OH
MP15021 Robert Kellar 02/12/1990 Muscatine IA
MP7850 Douglas Meer 03/29/1982 Boulder CO
MP12133 Santana Ornelas 04/01/1990 Marin CA

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[Hochman]

Reconstruction added January 16, 2014

 

[ChatteringBirds]

Bumping case up.

How easy would it have been for a member of the public to access this water tank?
What I wonder is, would you probably need special access and this was probably an "inside job," or is there a good possibility anyone could have accessed that tank?

 

[Aurora90]

Lots of like Olympic or branded clothes end up in shelters and whatnot. It doesn’t necessarily mean he has even been to Colorado. I find it interesting out of all the rule-outs none are from Arizona. Clearly he was around the area alive and well at one point hence the items in his pocket being from a local restaurant.

Without fully knowing more details, I’m surprised Allan Anthony Hoffman hasn’t been ruled out. The age range is slightly off but I am surprised it wasn’t at least ruled out just to be sure. I know it says he has blonde hair but this photo I could see it being brown.

Does anyone familiar with the area happen to know the distance between where Allan was last seen and this John Doe was found? And possible even in proximity to the restaurant these items came from?

Maybe it’s too early and I need my coffee but I feel this is something to look into and either confirm or add to the list of exclusions.

 

[Aurora90]

The severe decomposition might also explain why this John Doe doesn’t have a “tattoo”. The chemicals were meant to dissolve the body and hence remove a key identifying feature, the tattoo.

 

[Aurora90]

Interesting. Charleyproject says last seen in Phoenix, NAMUS says Glendale. Maybe this isn’t a likely match after all.