Benjaman Kyle - Those who need investigation - WE NEED YOUR HELP! #2

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Julessleuther said:
Your comment brings up a question....Did BK have any recontructive surgery on his nose after he was found? If he was badly beaten, was his nose broken and had to be reconstructed? If so, maybe all these noses that we are looking at cannot be matched to the photos we have of BK now. He did say he did not recognize himself...perhaps part of the reason why is because his nose structure was different?
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I don't know the answer about Benjaman having reconstructive surgery on his nose, I was curious of the same thing.

I do want to say that before I was supposed to undergo a sinus/nose surgery, the doctor warned me that some of the repair work could cause a change in the appearance of my nose.

It might be a good question to ask Benjaman, it would have to be in his medical records, if it was done after he was found, right? (Obviously he doesn't have his previous records. But his doctors after he was found may have noted if his nose had been worked on previously, if there were tell tale signs?)
 
carolwood said:
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facial shape doesn't match for me at first glance, haven't checked it out yet.

I did find another forum that shows sketches, recons, ect of people that have been found after...very interesting, I need to find the link or start a thread here relating w/their permission to use their research.
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Cecil Clarence: no way is Benjaman 87 years old!

Benjamin Barros: he's a little too tall and 150lbs is way skinny at 6'1" - but even if that's out it's a long, long way from Benjaman's 240lb weight three months later. Benjaman's build wouldn't allow him to weigh less than 170 even as a young adult with no fat.

I do see a slight facial resemblance but that would have to be a much earlier picture than 2004 although the age is just about possible.
 
Julessleuther said:
Hey guys--how come this guy has not been presented yet?

Oh, nevermind, his info was not entered until Dec 2008. He is missing from a mall in BOULDER, CO around the time period BK might have been in CO The date he went missing was July 29, 1989, so maybe that is where the 29 comes from? IMO, he looks like a good match. Similar nose, eye color, eye brows. He even has the same ears. Height is off, but the report was not made for 19 yrs, so perhaps they were off on the height?? What is BK's shoe size?

https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/1316

I am researching an Indiana connection. I did find a Richard Meyer who attended Ball State U in Muncie, Indiana in 1967.

I will contact LE in Boulder on this guy and find out the story. They have no DNA or dentals on file it appears.
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http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/meyer_richard.html
Same info as NaMus, but quotes NaMus as their source for the information.
It says contact Colorado Bureau of Investigation, but no phone number.

NaMus has case number 891-0199, CBI
 
NaMus
Identifying marks: strawberry birthmark on back of neck.
scar on abdomen.

Unknown if BK has this birthmark. I don't think it has been mentioned, but could be a hold back.
 
Julessleuther said:
The age is off, but I am surprised that this one has not been submitted:
http://www.nampn.org/cases/barros_benjamin.html

I know this guys age is way off, but they have a similar look:
http://www.nampn.org/cases/cecil_clarence.html
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Wow! I have always thought that Benjaman looks like someone I know in south Louisiana. Mr. Barros looks just like that same man, only a younger version. I wonder if they are related. I'll forward the pics to him and see what he thinks.
 
Spurser said:
Wow! I have always thought that Benjaman looks like someone I know in south Louisiana. Mr. Barros looks just like that same man, only a younger version. I wonder if they are related. I'll forward the pics to him and see what he thinks.
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We do not contact family with such things, this hasn't even been sleuthed yet...what if this guy has a missing relative and it's NOT Mr Kyle..this could be very upsetting. We work w/LE, FBI. If you think there may be something here, investigate further then put a tip into the proper authorities. We are not trained to deal w/such situations. If families contact us, we will work with them but still go to LE and verify and work w/them on all tips.

We can't stop you, but we ask that you think through and take the proper steps if you think this is a relative of Mr. Kyles.

IMO, Mr Barros is too tall and too thin, he also has dark complextion.
 
I don't see how Barros could possibly be Benjaman or even related. Barros looks to be part Hispanic and the name reflects that as well, imo.
 
No, no, no. That's not what I meant. I would NEVER contact a family member of a missing person. I was going to send it to the man I know that looks like both of those men. We are very close friends. He does not have any missing family members. I just thought the resemblance was so strong and that he would be interested.

Reading back over my post I can see why you were concerned. I'm sorry. I was just wondering aloud if they were related. I wasn't going to suggest that to him. Just thought he would be interested.
 
It is so ironic to say this, but Benjaman must have one of those "familiar" faces. I know a guy here that could be his brother. The resemblance is uncanny. Strange when you consider how long we have searched and all the faces we have seen which don't match him.
 
SeriouslySearching said:
I don't see how Barros could possibly be Benjaman or even related. Barros looks to be part Hispanic and the name reflects that as well, imo.
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I agree. I see no resemblence whatsoever. Barros is very mediteranean (sp?) looking....
 
SeriouslySearching said:
It is so ironic to say this, but Benjaman must have one of those "familiar" faces. I know a guy here that could be his brother. The resemblance is uncanny. Strange when you consider how long we have searched and all the faces we have seen which don't match him.
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I agree. It's almost like he looks just like so and so.... but you can't quite put your finger on it. For me, it is like I sware I have seen him before but can't quite place where......
 
Julessleuther said:
The age is off, but I am surprised that this one has not been submitted:
http://www.nampn.org/cases/barros_benjamin.html
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respectfully snipped.....

FWIW I don't think Richard Meyer is Mr. Kyle. While the eyes are similiar, Mr Meyer appears to have a 'pug nose'. His left ear lobe is much 'longer' than Mr. Kyles and the outside shape of his left earlobe is much 'rounder' than Mr. Kyles which, imo, is more square shaped. Mr. Meyes face is also much more of a square shape than Mr. Kyles.

jmo
 
I know! Right, Cubby? He does look like "that guy". LOL

Sorry, Benjaman! Maybe the problem is that you have a more "familiar" face instead of a truly recognizable one with odd features. While it is a good thing that your face is normal, it makes tracking you down more difficult. I pay attention to the nose. It is the one characteristic which stands out to me.
 
This photo was taken at a Powell Family Reunion in 2002:

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1041583706030614885yLnzyn

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1041586475030614885zoQqkD

look close at this fellows ears...

In reference to one of the pictures on this site, it says Crossville Festival. I searched Crossville Festival and came up with Tennessee, Alabama, and Illinois.
I do believe these pictures above are from Tennessee, as one of the photo's on this site shows a bridge which I found to look like the one in the photo of:

http://good-times.webshots.com/photo/1041585717030614885IdGWeg
(bridge from reunion photo)(also, notice the caption at the top of the page)

http://www.tennessee.gov/environment/parks/CumberlandMtn/
(seems to be same bridge, at Cumberland Mountain State Park)

thoughts...
 
I think he is Benjaman-like but not spot on...the face shape and jaw line and dimpled chin throw me off....JMO. I think his coloring is similar.
 
I ran a ancestry query on this family and this is what I got. Here is the record:

Buel Willett Powell, b. 1903 and Erma Shropshire, b. 1904
James Jasper Powell, b. 1879 and Mattie Walters, b. 1874
John Lafayette Powell, b. 1853 and Nancy Brantley, b. 1852
James F. Powell, b. 1821 and Martha Jones, b. 1824
Jonathan Powell, b. 1795 and Anne Rice, b. 1802
Joseph Powell, b. 1760 and Hannah Jewson, b. 1760
 
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