Quiet Time
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That's a lot of people to have to speak up for you..Their father's sisters, their mother's sister and brother, and most of their cousins.
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That's a lot of people to have to speak up for you..Their father's sisters, their mother's sister and brother, and most of their cousins.
Only Kitty's surviving brother speaks out against Lyle and Erik. The rest support them. Their grandmother Maria Menendez also stood by them until the day she died.That's a lot of people to have to speak up for you..
Only Kitty's surviving brother speaks out against Lyle and Erik. The rest support them. Their grandmother Maria Menendez also stood by them until the day she died.
I agree. Looking back to the start of this thread and going through it, you can actually see how things have changed. A big problem was that Jose Menendez was wealthy and powerful; people were afraid of him, even his family members. It's interesting that the family members who support Lyle and Erik (at this point, there's only one that doesn't) have stated that they forgive the brothers for killing their parents, but they don't forgive the parents for abusing their children. That says so much.I'm glad all of this information has come to light. Back when this all happened, the public assumed the brothers were spoiled and evil. The truth was more complicated than that.
"If you see something, say something" is the main credo to prevent child abuse.
I agree. Looking back to the start of this thread and going through it, you can actually see how things have changed. A big problem was that Jose Menendez was wealthy and powerful; people were afraid of him, even his family members. It's interesting that the family members who support Lyle and Erik (at this point, there's only one that doesn't) have stated that they forgive the brothers for killing their parents, but they don't forgive the parents for abusing their children. That says so much.
I'm so sorry for your loss. It's so tragic, and probably not unusual, sadly. Having survived an abusive childhood myself, there were times when I thought about ending it all, but fortunately, I never did. I still live with the effects of trauma today, but I'm grateful to be alive and I've never been suicidal since.Yes it's hard for me to re-visit this case. A friend of mine took her life because her parents abused her so heavily (it was a combination of religious abuse and heavy neglect. Plus her mother repeating very unhealthy behaviors with her.) Domestic abusers really enjoy inflicting pain on their partners, offspring and even the pets of the household.
Also the lawyer for the brothers was demonized publicly but she obviously knew things the public did not.
Another reminder to cherish and protect children.
Kitty with Lyle and Erik
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Jose and Kitty with Lyle and Erik
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Yes, Lyle and Erik loved their parents, and they miss them. Despite the abuse and trauma, they desperately wanted, and to a degree, still want their parents' love and approval. On direct-examination during the first trial, Lyle said of Jose, "I miss the bond that I had with him." When he was asked by his attorney Jill Lansing if he felt he had betrayed his father by revealing the sexual abuse, Lyle replied, "I have betrayed him." Lyle also mourns the love that he never felt that he got from his mother, who seemed to resent him because Jose focused so much on him, the first born son. When Erik was asked by his attorney Leslie Abramson what he loved most about Kitty, his face lit up and he said, "Her smile." Even though Kitty was often cruel to Erik at times, she seemed to prefer him to Lyle. Other than when he had to testify in the trials, Erik refuses to say anything negative about his mother; he desperately wants to believe that she loved him. Erik felt that he was a disappointment to his father and was never good enough. "Why can't you be more like your brother?" is what Jose would often say to him.