CANADA CANADA - Project Kare: Is this Edmonton's Serial Killer??

[Patience]

The RCMP Project Kare had an online bulliten board in 2005 IIRC. You were able to sign up and post there similar to here. It didn't last very long though and was shut down after some really odd disturbances. This link will take you into the Project Kare archives.
http://projectkarearchives.blogspot.ca/2006/10/wt-as-jets4life.html

 

[Clouddippingdown]

Imo, it's better connected and more well established than anyone would wish to believe. I don't believe that Mark Lindsay was lying about what he saw or heard. It's understandable that being tormented by such a group would make him somewhat paranoid but the basis of what he says has been both seen and heard before and who would blame him for not trusting LE, its not like this information hasn't landed on their doorstep before. As time goes by more people hear and see the same things and what this has is a compounding effect that will eventually be too large to sweep under the rug.

http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/former-e...tement-after-son-confesses-to-murder-1.919833

http://byronchristopher.org/2012/09/09/is-mark-lindsay-nuts/

Dana mentions in the link above that she "had been sleeping 'drug induced state' at hands at gang for 21 hours" Also, "left a note for gang members pleading to leave me alone" and "felt as if I had been raped when drugged but had no proof" So, that's how she is referring to this group, as a gang and I suppose a photo of her on one of their phones wouldn't substantiate proof whereby ties to a puppet master or a voice on the Tuccaro cell phone recoding was concerned. Perhaps, if LE had checked Dana's associations more thoroughly they would have seen some credibility in what is was that Mark Lindsay was saying. How would one be expected to act in seeing something such as this type of organized crime surrounding them?

It's also somewhat understandable that KARE wouldn't want to stir up a hornet's nest; however, the day will come as it always does that one that is conceived as being an "acceptable" casualty, is not and that one will land on their doorstep and will need to be answered for. That day may have already came in the form of Victoria Crowshoe by way of landing on the doorstep of two year old Hailey Dunbar Blanchette and her dad, Terry; to the fact that it's still possible that Derek Seretzky may have had an accomplice or simply was used as a hired gun.

It seems to me that if some credence were to be put with Mark Lindsay then would it not also be possible as to stretch that credence to the Crows Nest Pass in linking all 4 of the murders together in a twisted game of cat and mouse. If a group of killers were to be attached to a puppet master then why would that same puppet master not have the ability to organize and pull off the Crows Nest Pass using a local resident as a fall guy and a cover up for his own presence in the area? It would explain Victoria's presence and location by way of timing as well as in the linking of so many other First Nations women that have met the same fate in and around Edmonton; however, the end gain would have been Hailey and reasonably she would have been the last victim before he left town. One cannot help but to reason what a sick twisted pedophile he would be in covering all the bases and more than likely from the onslaught of his hunting career. And to the reinforcement of such a belief all I need to do is look at a First Nations woman who has been unceremoniously dumped on the doorstep of a murdered two year old precious little girl.

The more I think about it the more I believe that there is a demented puppet master out there and has been for many years, who offers other psychopaths a piece of his pie in exchange for their help in cleaning up his messes and occasionally, taking the fall and I wonder when the big fall is coming, the one that will line his pocket with riches and fame for his planned retirement. In a type of cast off event that is of his making and points the finger at his right hand man to the eye of the media that puts him in the spotlight to shine. To submerse one that is so close to you in your own wicked deceit and treachery is to subject that one to your own purpose and gain that is based in need and greed and the puppet master needs to kill and his greed will match his need based in excessive monetary gain with only one projected avenue of media appeal. And it is through this analysis based on a scale that a SK lives by that tells me that an end performance of proportion is in the making if in fact a puppet master exists.

This is not a far reach... however; I suppose I would need to sit behind a desk with an important title in one hand and a pay check in the other to understand why it could be.

MOO

 

[sheshecanada]

Imo, it's better connected and more well established than anyone would wish to believe. I don't believe that Mark Lindsay was lying about what he saw or heard. It's understandable that being tormented by such a group would make him somewhat paranoid but the basis of what he says has been both seen and heard before and who would blame him for not trusting LE, its not like this information hasn't landed on their doorstep before. As time goes by more people hear and see the same things and what this has is a compounding effect that will eventually be too large to sweep under the rug.

http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/former-e...tement-after-son-confesses-to-murder-1.919833

http://byronchristopher.org/2012/09/09/is-mark-lindsay-nuts/

Dana mentions in the link above that she "had been sleeping 'drug induced state' at hands at gang for 21 hours" Also, "left a note for gang members pleading to leave me alone" and "felt as if I had been raped when drugged but had no proof" So, that's how she is referring to this group, as a gang and I suppose a photo of her on one of their phones wouldn't substantiate proof whereby ties to a puppet master or a voice on the Tuccaro cell phone recoding was concerned. Perhaps, if LE had checked Dana's associations more thoroughly they would have seen some credibility in what is was that Mark Lindsay was saying. How would one be expected to act in seeing something such as this type of organized crime surrounding them?

It's also somewhat understandable that KARE wouldn't want to stir up a hornet's nest; however, the day will come as it always does that one that is conceived as being an "acceptable" casualty, is not and that one will land on their doorstep and will need to be answered for. That day may have already came in the form of Victoria Crowshoe by way of landing on the doorstep of two year old Hailey Dunbar Blanchette and her dad, Terry; to the fact that it's still possible that Derek Seretzky may have had an accomplice or simply was used as a hired gun.

It seems to me that if some credence were to be put with Mark Lindsay then would it not also be possible as to stretch that credence to the Crows Nest Pass in linking all 4 of the murders together in a twisted game of cat and mouse. If a group of killers were to be attached to a puppet master then why would that same puppet master not have the ability to organize and pull off the Crows Nest Pass using a local resident as a fall guy and a cover up for his own presence in the area? It would explain Victoria's presence and location by way of timing as well as in the linking of so many other First Nations women that have met the same fate in and around Edmonton; however, the end gain would have been Hailey and reasonably she would have been the last victim before he left town. One cannot help but to reason what a sick twisted pedophile he would be in covering all the bases and more than likely from the onslaught of his hunting career. And to the reinforcement of such a belief all I need to do is look at a First Nations woman who has been unceremoniously dumped on the doorstep of a murdered two year old precious little girl.

The more I think about it the more I believe that there is a demented puppet master out there and has been for many years, who offers other psychopaths a piece of his pie in exchange for their help in cleaning up his messes and occasionally, taking the fall and I wonder when the big fall is coming, the one that will line his pocket with riches and fame for his planned retirement. In a type of cast off event that is of his making and points the finger at his right hand man to the eye of the media that puts him in the spotlight to shine. To submerse one that is so close to you in your own wicked deceit and treachery is to subject that one to your own purpose and gain that is based in need and greed and the puppet master needs to kill and his greed will match his need based in excessive monetary gain with only one projected avenue of media appeal. And it is through this analysis based on a scale that a SK lives by that tells me that an end performance of proportion is in the making if in fact a puppet master exists.

This is not a far reach... however; I suppose I would need to sit behind a desk with an important title in one hand and a pay check in the other to understand why it could be.

MOO

I am failing to find the relevance in the article you posted has to the thread. As for a puppet master we do not have any evidence of that from police. WE should stick to facts or else it becomes a guessing game.

 

[Patience]

I am going through some old posts and in my files I have old posts from 'RedMile and this handle had posted the lyrics of Freedom 76 by the band ween. the entire song. I find it interesting that the person who did gain Freedom in 76 was indeed Caril Ann Fugate who along with Charles Starkweather were responsible so for the three deaths on Belmont Road and were the inspiration for some films. natural Born Killers and Kalifornia and one other.

Three homicides on Belmont.

I have always felt that the case Amber T was a copy cat crime but what do I know.

 

[Clouddippingdown]

I am failing to find the relevance in the article you posted has to the thread. As for a puppet master we do not have any evidence of that from police. WE should stick to facts or else it becomes a guessing game.

The relevance comes into play with the fact that Mark Lindsay and Dana Turner, are and were, respectively, from the Edmonton vicinity. Mark Lindsay issued his statement noting a "group of serial killers" also in the Edmonton vicinity. Dana's handwritten notes refer to a "gang" that she is connected to also in the Edmonton vicinity. So, understandably they're both talking about the same "gang group" by way of association. Their stories line up when you read his statement and her handwritten notes in that both stories end up with a really bad ending. Now, whether crack was involved or not the fact is that Mark was feeling a lot of sideways pressure from another angle that enhanced his paranoia from the drug use and Dana was riding along shotgun. And what this means is that the only way that she would still be alive and he wouldn't be in jail is if there hadn't been something by way of extreme intimidation to push him over the edge. And that is based in psychology 101 which gives some measure of credence to his statement otherwise there would be a morgue and probably 20 more in Edmonton alone filled with crack addicts. I'm fairly certain that being the son of an Edmonton Police Chief the last place he wanted to end up was in jail and the fact that he is that son would tell me that whatever influence it was that the two of them were involved with was a very powerful one by way of emotional and physical intimidation. Again, credence to his statement.

That explains the first two paragraphs, the rest is self explicit.

 

[Patience]

An escort in Toronto was harassed by a Calgary man and the main stream media article is posted below. I came across an escort review board called cerb and someone who calls themselves Jesus Christ is posting his thoughts on her responsibility and Sassy Strumpette from a stw advocate site is defending her but Jesus Christ won't have it. This man who harassed her is apparently from Calgary, Alberta and is a middle aged man. Could it be that this man has had issues with sex trade workers for most of his adult life?

Google Sassy Strumpette, cerb, Jesus Christ or maybe escort harassed names Kate.

http://www.torontosun.com/2013/02/2...-bid-would-ruin-her-dreams-of-becoming-doctor

So when a middle-aged man in another province cancelled a date, demanded his $1,500 deposit back and began extorting her for more cash, the 23-year-old wasn’t about to put up with it.
“It was frightening,” Kate, not her real name, told the Toronto Sun Monday. “But he pushed me too far.”
Tired of working two or three jobs to get by, she became an escort a few years ago and now earns more than enough to pay for her education.
Kate said she also has much more time to devote to her studies and to do volunteer work, which includes counselling sex trade workers who have endured horrific abuse.

 

[marikesh]

Imo, it's better connected and more well established than anyone would wish to believe. I don't believe that Mark Lindsay was lying about what he saw or heard. It's understandable that being tormented by such a group would make him somewhat paranoid but the basis of what he says has been both seen and heard before and who would blame him for not trusting LE, its not like this information hasn't landed on their doorstep before. As time goes by more people hear and see the same things and what this has is a compounding effect that will eventually be too large to sweep under the rug.

http://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/former-e...tement-after-son-confesses-to-murder-1.919833

http://byronchristopher.org/2012/09/09/is-mark-lindsay-nuts/

Dana mentions in the link above that she "had been sleeping 'drug induced state' at hands at gang for 21 hours" Also, "left a note for gang members pleading to leave me alone" and "felt as if I had been raped when drugged but had no proof" So, that's how she is referring to this group, as a gang and I suppose a photo of her on one of their phones wouldn't substantiate proof whereby ties to a puppet master or a voice on the Tuccaro cell phone recoding was concerned. Perhaps, if LE had checked Dana's associations more thoroughly they would have seen some credibility in what is was that Mark Lindsay was saying. How would one be expected to act in seeing something such as this type of organized crime surrounding them?

It's also somewhat understandable that KARE wouldn't want to stir up a hornet's nest; however, the day will come as it always does that one that is conceived as being an "acceptable" casualty, is not and that one will land on their doorstep and will need to be answered for. That day may have already came in the form of Victoria Crowshoe by way of landing on the doorstep of two year old Hailey Dunbar Blanchette and her dad, Terry; to the fact that it's still possible that Derek Seretzky may have had an accomplice or simply was used as a hired gun.

It seems to me that if some credence were to be put with Mark Lindsay then would it not also be possible as to stretch that credence to the Crows Nest Pass in linking all 4 of the murders together in a twisted game of cat and mouse. If a group of killers were to be attached to a puppet master then why would that same puppet master not have the ability to organize and pull off the Crows Nest Pass using a local resident as a fall guy and a cover up for his own presence in the area? It would explain Victoria's presence and location by way of timing as well as in the linking of so many other First Nations women that have met the same fate in and around Edmonton; however, the end gain would have been Hailey and reasonably she would have been the last victim before he left town. One cannot help but to reason what a sick twisted pedophile he would be in covering all the bases and more than likely from the onslaught of his hunting career. And to the reinforcement of such a belief all I need to do is look at a First Nations woman who has been unceremoniously dumped on the doorstep of a murdered two year old precious little girl.

The more I think about it the more I believe that there is a demented puppet master out there and has been for many years, who offers other psychopaths a piece of his pie in exchange for their help in cleaning up his messes and occasionally, taking the fall and I wonder when the big fall is coming, the one that will line his pocket with riches and fame for his planned retirement. In a type of cast off event that is of his making and points the finger at his right hand man to the eye of the media that puts him in the spotlight to shine. To submerse one that is so close to you in your own wicked deceit and treachery is to subject that one to your own purpose and gain that is based in need and greed and the puppet master needs to kill and his greed will match his need based in excessive monetary gain with only one projected avenue of media appeal. And it is through this analysis based on a scale that a SK lives by that tells me that an end performance of proportion is in the making if in fact a puppet master exists.

This is not a far reach... however; I suppose I would need to sit behind a desk with an important title in one hand and a pay check in the other to understand why it could be.

MOO

Mark Lindsay and Dana Turner both were on crack and wouldn't sleep for days, just doing crack cocaine. Dana also had been addicted to narcotics due to a back injury. The combination made them both delusional and the ramblings of both appear to come from delusional minds. They met at a psychiatric hospital where they were in-patients and Mark had a lengthy psyche assessment after capture. The people threatening his life were in his mind and that is clear in the texts offered in those links. He heard voices that Dana was a witch and he needed to kill her. IMO, there was nothing here to do with SK's.

 

[Clouddippingdown]

Mark Lindsay and Dana Turner both were on crack and wouldn't sleep for days, just doing crack cocaine. Dana also had been addicted to narcotics due to a back injury. The combination made them both delusional and the ramblings of both appear to come from delusional minds. They met at a psychiatric hospital where they were in-patients and Mark had a lengthy psyche assessment after capture. The people threatening his life were in his mind and that is clear in the texts offered in those links. He heard voices that Dana was a witch and he needed to kill her. IMO, there was nothing here to do with SK's.

Maybe... it's always good to keep an open mind. There is one little thing though that has bothered me about the whole "Dana and Mark" story and that is why, shortly after her death when I saw her photo on one of the "boys" cell phones that phone was quickly taken away as if in hopes I hadn't seen it. ??? The phones owner was quicker than a jackrabbit crossing the tracks in front of a train and that's something you don't see too often, especially from a drunk who has trouble tying his own shoe laces... Seems it's always the little things. JMO

 

[marikesh]

Maybe... it's always good to keep an open mind. There is one little thing though that has bothered me about the whole "Dana and Mark" story and that is why, shortly after her death when I saw her photo on one of the "boys" cell phones that phone was quickly taken away as if in hopes I hadn't seen it. ??? The phones owner was quicker than a jackrabbit crossing the tracks in front of a train and that's something you don't see too often, especially from a drunk who has trouble tying his own shoe laces... Seems it's always the little things. JMO

Well, I suppose that little thing is your word against facts given out by MSM. None of us know the "boys" that you supposedly know and saw their cell phone with Dana's picture. You have placed yourself in several cases as knowing the people involved and that seems like quite a stretch, imo.

eta: I do keep an open mind however some things just can not be tied together sensibly and with using facts known to all.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

Maybe... it's always good to keep an open mind. There is one little thing though that has bothered me about the whole "Dana and Mark" story and that is why, shortly after her death when I saw her photo on one of the "boys" cell phones that phone was quickly taken away as if in hopes I hadn't seen it. ??? The phones owner was quicker than a jackrabbit crossing the tracks in front of a train and that's something you don't see too often, especially from a drunk who has trouble tying his own shoe laces... Seems it's always the little things. JMO

I am not clear on what happened.

You saw a picture on a phone and a bum rushed up and grabbed it, narrowly missing a train?

 

[Clouddippingdown]

Well, I suppose that little thing is your word against facts given out by MSM. None of us know the "boys" that you supposedly know and saw their cell phone with Dana's picture. You have placed yourself in several cases as knowing the people involved and that seems like quite a stretch, imo.

eta: I do keep an open mind however some things just can not be tied together sensibly and with using facts known to all.

I realize that marikesh and there is no sensibility to Project Edmonton. And it is a far stretch to "knowing" anything when you have to take everything you know and turn it upside down to try and make sense of it and I'm not definitively placing myself anywhere. Profiling is an art of avengers and sleuthing walks hand in hand with it. Use both with a projected sense of awareness in knowing that when looking at the facts one is really only looking at the outer limits of what lies within. Tying these cases together through similarities and locations is a very narrow avenue but rather take the oddities and use those oddities as a link to the killers mind and you will find that in the worst case scenario the message that is being projected is that anything goes and when you get to that status you will find that you have just taken a look into a SK's Pandora's box, one that has lost the grip on boundaries, even on his level. He will be out of control and his business and financial endeavors will reflect that as well as his personal life whereby meaningful and sound ties to a fundamental home and partner is concerned. It will all be dysfunctional.
MOO

For example, take a SK that say has been on the road for 40+ years and tell me what avenue he will not go down. And then take that same SK's mind and try and understand the insane asylum that lives within it and the mind control that he has gained in those 40 years over others. You see, there comes a time when it is no longer about quality over quantity but rather quantity over quality and that is when the territorial access is gained because of the factional division of greed that is reflected upon the mind of a SK who has gotten away with what he does over that period of time. Forget about the end result for a moment when profiling a homicidal maniac and think about the power that he has developed in the art of mind control and how he would use that to his best advantage over that period of time. We know he's not running on lady luck or love, so who is footing the bill? And how is that bill being footed without serious questions being raised as to his activities which would be devouring most of his time by now? The evidence would be all around him and he would require a large enough alibi by way of representation to cover that evidence. How to find the cover that is needed without inclusion?? It all boils down to length of occupation, numbers and math to make sense of it all. Without this alibi he can't do what he does to the extent that he needs to do it for his own personal control and addiction without being caught.

In saying that, look at the missing persons lists in a larger territory and define the routes that are being used. Expand to Saskatchewan and B.C. and look for everything that could be included in that Pandora's Box from women to children to younger men and use grouping and timelines to establish presence by way of these routes. That is when you being to see the bigger and more accurate picture when talking about many, many years of similarities by way of victim indications. It wouldn't be about his groupies, if in fact he has any, it would be about him with anything that comes their way as being a bribery towards his financial accommodation and alibi.

 

[Clouddippingdown]

I am not clear on what happened.

You saw a picture on a phone and a bum rushed up and grabbed it, narrowly missing a train?

It's an adjective formerly used as a metaphor to give those who are coming out of the dark a clearer picture. If the pretense is to sleuth on a higher level of interpretation then the interpretation also needs to be there on an expanded level of awareness, imo.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

I realize that marikesh and there is no sensibility to Project Edmonton. And it is a far stretch to "knowing" anything when you have to take everything you know and turn it upside down to try and make sense of it and I'm not definitively placing myself anywhere. Profiling is an art of avengers and sleuthing walks hand in hand with it. Use both with a projected sense of awareness in knowing that when looking at the facts one is really only looking at the outer limits of what lies within. Tying these cases together through similarities and locations is a very narrow avenue but rather take the oddities and use those oddities as a link to the killers mind and you will find that in the worst case scenario the message that is being projected is that anything goes and when you get to that status you will find that you have just taken a look into a SK's Pandora's box, one that has lost the grip on boundaries, even on his level. He will be out of control and his business and financial endeavors will reflect that as well as his personal life whereby meaningful and sound ties to a fundamental home and partner is concerned. It will all be dysfunctional.
MOO

For example, take a SK that say has been on the road for 40+ years and tell me what avenue he will not go down. And then take that same SK's mind and try and understand the insane asylum that lives within it and the mind control that he has gained in those 40 years over others. You see, there comes a time when it is no longer about quality over quantity but rather quantity over quality and that is when the territorial access is gained because of the factional division of greed that is reflected upon the mind of a SK who has gotten away with what he does over that period of time. Forget about the end result for a moment when profiling a homicidal maniac and think about the power that he has developed in the art of mind control and how he would use that to his best advantage over that period of time. We know he's not running on lady luck or love, so who is footing the bill? And how is that bill being footed without serious questions being raised as to his activities which would be devouring most of his time by now? The evidence would be all around him and he would require a large enough alibi by way of representation to cover that evidence. How to find the cover that is needed without inclusion?? It all boils down to length of occupation, numbers and math to make sense of it all. Without this alibi he can't do what he does to the extent that he needs to do it for his own personal control and addiction without being caught.

In saying that, look at the missing persons lists in a larger territory and define the routes that are being used. Expand to Saskatchewan and B.C. and look for everything that could be included in that Pandora's Box from women to children to younger men and use grouping and timelines to establish presence by way of these routes. That is when you being to see the bigger and more accurate picture when talking about many, many years of similarities by way of victim indications. It wouldn't be about his groupies, if in fact he has any, it would be about him with anything that comes their way as being a bribery towards his financial accommodation and alibi.

You give a lot of credit to the master serial killer being very clever and intelligent, yet what could be less intelligent than having a loose society of witnesses knowing who you are?

Most of the missing and deceased are prostitutes and hitchikers. It it less about intelligence, and more about opportunity. The Green River Killer, was said to have an IQ of 82, and a very strong sexual appetite. Armed with a car to travel, it is a 2 + 2 obvious equation that one would cover a large area in an attempt *not* to get caught.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

It's an adjective formerly used as a metaphor to give those who are coming out of the dark a clearer picture. If the pretense is to sleuth on a higher level of interpretation then the interpretation also needs to be there on an expanded level of awareness, imo.

I recall a "profile" of the killer of Jessica Rae Newman being a serial killer that coveted her for her unusual eyes.

The "profiler" also claimed to have direct contact with the people involved, and linked her case to a case in Kamloops.

Police have charged the ex that picked her up, who shares a child with her. No serial killings in his past.

That "profile" was an incorrect interpretation, and showed no higher level of awareness.

There is definitely a pattern of behaviour forming, which is becoming increasingly easy to profile.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

It's an adjective formerly used as a metaphor to give those who are coming out of the dark a clearer picture. If the pretense is to sleuth on a higher level of interpretation then the interpretation also needs to be there on an expanded level of awareness, imo.

It is also a metaphor for one who takes those who wish to cloud their intentions under cover of darkness... and brings it all into the light.

 

[marikesh]

I was speaking to an amateur profiler who also wrote the book, Cold North Killers ... Lee Mellor. As I asked for his assistance on a case, he told me the less info he has on the case, the better he can profile. In other words, he doesn't profile from information he gains by messaging people close to the situation, for information.

 

[marikesh]

I realize that marikesh and there is no sensibility to Project Edmonton. And it is a far stretch to "knowing" anything when you have to take everything you know and turn it upside down to try and make sense of it and I'm not definitively placing myself anywhere. Profiling is an art of avengers and sleuthing walks hand in hand with it. Use both with a projected sense of awareness in knowing that when looking at the facts one is really only looking at the outer limits of what lies within. Tying these cases together through similarities and locations is a very narrow avenue but rather take the oddities and use those oddities as a link to the killers mind and you will find that in the worst case scenario the message that is being projected is that anything goes and when you get to that status you will find that you have just taken a look into a SK's Pandora's box, one that has lost the grip on boundaries, even on his level. He will be out of control and his business and financial endeavors will reflect that as well as his personal life whereby meaningful and sound ties to a fundamental home and partner is concerned. It will all be dysfunctional.
MOO

For example, take a SK that say has been on the road for 40+ years and tell me what avenue he will not go down. And then take that same SK's mind and try and understand the insane asylum that lives within it and the mind control that he has gained in those 40 years over others. You see, there comes a time when it is no longer about quality over quantity but rather quantity over quality and that is when the territorial access is gained because of the factional division of greed that is reflected upon the mind of a SK who has gotten away with what he does over that period of time. Forget about the end result for a moment when profiling a homicidal maniac and think about the power that he has developed in the art of mind control and how he would use that to his best advantage over that period of time. We know he's not running on lady luck or love, so who is footing the bill? And how is that bill being footed without serious questions being raised as to his activities which would be devouring most of his time by now? The evidence would be all around him and he would require a large enough alibi by way of representation to cover that evidence. How to find the cover that is needed without inclusion?? It all boils down to length of occupation, numbers and math to make sense of it all. Without this alibi he can't do what he does to the extent that he needs to do it for his own personal control and addiction without being caught.

In saying that, look at the missing persons lists in a larger territory and define the routes that are being used. Expand to Saskatchewan and B.C. and look for everything that could be included in that Pandora's Box from women to children to younger men and use grouping and timelines to establish presence by way of these routes. That is when you being to see the bigger and more accurate picture when talking about many, many years of similarities by way of victim indications. It wouldn't be about his groupies, if in fact he has any, it would be about him with anything that comes their way as being a bribery towards his financial accommodation and alibi.

Much of this seems to link to the Illuminati train of thought. I am not that forward thinking at this stage and this is beyond me.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

Much of this seems to link to the Illuminati train of thought. I am not that forward thinking at this stage and this is beyond me.

Methinks everyone wants to be a profiler. Writing a book doesn't qualify you as anything but an opportunist, perhaps an entrepreneur.

I would have to assume LE, who have the DNA evidence collected from every crime scene, have talked to those closest to the victim, and have looked into tips and leads are the best equipped to profile.

If I had magical powers to see otherworldly things, I'd be winning the lotto 3 times a week and helping LE hire more investigators. Yes. It really is that simple, and until you demonstrate you can do that, you don't have special powers.

 

[OutOfTheDarkness]

I was speaking to an amateur profiler who also wrote the book, Cold North Killers ... Lee Mellor. As I asked for his assistance on a case, he told me the less info he has on the case, the better he can profile. In other words, he doesn't profile from information he gains by messaging people close to the situation, for information.

... which is ridiculous.

To use the JRN case as an example, LE didn't release that she was picked up from work until months after she disappeared. All the "profilers" and clairvoyants "saw" her getting picked up off the streets by a stalker. Wrong. No special powers. It's like trying to guess the color of the sky by telling people not to say it's blue, and by not looking at it. You can't avoid the facts and the truth and expect to arrive at the right answer... especially since a fact like "the sky is blue" makes the answer pretty obvious.

Mr. Mellor knows nothing about many, many cases, thus, should be able to solve them all handily.

Again, if you can't consistently pick 6 numbers to be drawn from 49 balls in the same location every week... which is pretty simple... how can you consistently see how, where, when, by whom, and the aftermath of murders all over the world?

 

[marikesh]

... which is ridiculous.

To use the JRN case as an example, LE didn't release that she was picked up from work until months after she disappeared. All the "profilers" and clairvoyants "saw" her getting picked up off the streets by a stalker. Wrong. No special powers. It's like trying to guess the color of the sky by telling people not to say it's blue, and by not looking at it. You can't avoid the facts and the truth and expect to arrive at the right answer... especially since a fact like "the sky is blue" makes the answer pretty obvious.

Mr. Mellor knows nothing about many, many cases, thus, should be able to solve them all handily.

Again, if you can't consistently pick 6 numbers to be drawn from 49 balls in the same location every week... which is pretty simple... how can you consistently see how, where, when, by whom, and the aftermath of murders all over the world?

Oh pardon me ... I erred and didn't explain that well. What Lee doesn't use is second hand information derived from discussion pages and opinions/beliefs/ supposed facts from private messages. He uses whatever info was submitted by police. So the Illuminati material would not be what he would base his profile on. The case I questioned him about had many responses from local people who were sure who the perpetrator was and other such gossip, etc.