CO - The Stalking and Mysterious Death of Morgan Ingram #4

[twinkiesmom]

No, you just read the only official document so far.


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I'm going to repeat a question here.

I know you guys spent a lot of time looking up dolmane or some such thing that mom mentioned in the radio show.

Could those drugs she mentioned that were trace amounts have been taken a few days before and test positive due to residuals?

Since they were not the cause, I started thinking about it. Hence looking up only the one that was.

I know nothing about medications, how long they stay in your system, how much is or isn't safe. (I will stop taking 5 non-working claritin a day!)

Just wondering if residuals could be left after a few days, even a day?

Also, could the ami drug have been building up if taking, say, only 2 a day?

The ami was a solo dose. Believe the flexeril and dalmane were found in the gastric contents, so would have been that day.

All drugs half different half lives....I wouldn't mess around with even over the counter medications...If one Claritin doesn't work, you should switch meds...have you tried Zyrtec?

 

[shellbee]

DOH! Can't believe I couldn't figure that one out. :floorlaugh:

Don't feel too bad. I thought it (OIC) meant officer in charge. :dunno:

 

[twinkiesmom]

Is there any official reference to no pill fragments in the gastric contents?

No, but Dr. Doberson would have reviewed the autopsy, and he said it could have been an injection. If there were ami pill fragments, he would not have said that.

 

[hambirg]

Hiya WoeBeGone:seeya:
Heres the direct link to morgans personal blog about creative ways of making your own facial creams, clothes, etc..its not extremely long but interesting nonetheless due to the fact its her own words and just a teeny glimpse into the creative workings of this young woman's mind..
http://morganingram.com/wordpress/

ETA quickly after posting:
Wow.. I DONT KNOW WHY BUT NOW THE LINK TO MORGANS PERSONAL BLOG HAS BEEN CHANGED TO THE ABOVE LINK POSTED?
IDK why that would be and unfortunately i didnt bookmark Morgans blog link due to it being so easily accessible(and my browser history only goes back the last 7 days.aarrrggh!)

Anyone else happen to bookmark or save the direct link to Morgans blog?..as Im now curious to know if the link was removed just from the stalking website/blog..or if her personal blog has now been made private and therefor unable to be viewed by the public?..anyone know?

Idk. . .but here is the direct link. . .

http://thehedonisticwhim.blogspot.com/

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Its called "the hedonistic whim"

Thanks. I hadn't seen that before.
In August 2011 she refers to 'her boyfriend'. In December did she still have the same one?

Morgan's posts are provocative imo.
<modsnip>.

 

[Cazzie]

Hiya WoeBeGone:seeya:
Heres the direct link to morgans personal blog about creative ways of making your own facial creams, clothes, etc..its not extremely long but interesting nonetheless due to the fact its her own words and just a teeny glimpse into the creative workings of this young woman's mind..
http://morganingram.com/wordpress/

ETA quickly after posting:
Wow.. I DONT KNOW WHY BUT NOW THE LINK TO MORGANS PERSONAL BLOG HAS BEEN CHANGED TO THE ABOVE LINK POSTED?
IDK why that would be and unfortunately i didnt bookmark Morgans blog link due to it being so easily accessible(and my browser history only goes back the last 7 days.aarrrggh!)

Anyone else happen to bookmark or save the direct link to Morgans blog?..as Im now curious to know if the link was removed just from the stalking website/blog..or if her personal blog has now been made private and therefor unable to be viewed by the public?..anyone know?

http://thehedonisticwhim.blogspot.com/

This link is labelled "Morgan's Summer Blog", on the "MJ" tab at morganingram.com (look to the left after you get there).

The link you mentioned is there, too, called "Morgan's Blog" (the one this thread is mostly about).

:hug:

 

[rollinginit]

Thanks. I hadn't seen that before.
In August 2011 she refers to 'her boyfriend'. In December did she still have the same one?

Morgan's posts are provocative imo.
<modsnip>.

Sorry, but I disagree. I don't see anything provocative at all. I think it's pretty tame

You should see some of my 15 yr old friends face books.......now those are just nasty.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Hiya WoeBeGone:seeya:
Heres the direct link to morgans personal blog about creative ways of making your own facial creams, clothes, etc..its not extremely long but interesting nonetheless due to the fact its her own words and just a teeny glimpse into the creative workings of this young woman's mind..
http://morganingram.com/wordpress/

ETA quickly after posting:
Wow.. I DONT KNOW WHY BUT NOW THE LINK TO MORGANS PERSONAL BLOG HAS BEEN CHANGED TO THE ABOVE LINK POSTED?
IDK why that would be and unfortunately i didnt bookmark Morgans blog link due to it being so easily accessible(and my browser history only goes back the last 7 days.aarrrggh!)

Anyone else happen to bookmark or save the direct link to Morgans blog?..as Im now curious to know if the link was removed just from the stalking website/blog..or if her personal blog has now been made private and therefor unable to be viewed by the public?..anyone know?

Sorry to quote myself and likely someone will have already posted the link but I just now located it..heres direct link to Morgan's blog:
http://thehedonisticwhim.blogspot.com/

 

[Cazzie]

Thanks. I hadn't seen that before.
In August 2011 she refers to 'her boyfriend'. In December did she still have the same one?

Morgan's posts are provocative imo.
<modsnip>.

Did you mean November 2010?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Case in point right here...finding anything that this Mother states to try and point out something nefarious. So what even if she did read here? Wouldn't it be prudent to read thinking that maybe someone who was involved might post here? Gee wiz, this Mother can not do anything without it being suspect of a nefarious meaning behind it.

It's not that. Peeps just believe her to be tunnel visioned already - possibly. Since we want the case to be examined more closely because of the belief that LE did the same - closed the case prematurely due to their tunnel vision - we need to know the facts at hand.

Early on there was a footprint found by Morgan's window, a man in the driveway was captured on camera and noises continually heard from the windows. I don't think anybody disputes those reports but we do not necessarily believe they are tied directly to Morgan's death.
It's a case, we're not just reading a book/story.

TI has a hypothesis, so she has to work backwards to prove what she thinks happened is true.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Was just now again looking at Morgain's blog and she was definitely one cool chick in my book..anyone who recognizes and enjoys the music of those like Mumford and Sons is someone I'd likely enjoy spending time with in getting to know..that along with the fact that I too share a great penchant for all things big and small that my creative mind can form and make into anything my heart so desires and i set my mind into creating and making it to be..

So young, so much talent and creativity..and so much life left to live and to give to us, the world around her.. We all were robbed of Morgan and what the future held for her..her family deserve to have the investigations necessary to answer the questions surrounding her death..no matter what those answers are..her life and memory, and her loved ones left behind deserve the processes that will lead to those answers..

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Did you mean November 2010?

Oh, did I? Is that when she mentions cutting off her bf's old jeans to make short shorts?

In error, I must have picked the day she made her last blog entry. Thank you for clarifying as that makes a big difference depending on when they broke up. Was that the guy who went to Australia or had it been 'D' since then?

I'm not expecting you to know the answer, or anyone for that matter, but these are the things I'd like to know considering they both saw her the day of the night she died. TOD hasn't been released, right?

 

[gitana1]

Both me's have worked a case together before

http://extras.denverpost.com/news/col020801.htm

There are a couple of negative/ or semi negative articles about kurtzman
http://gjpdexposed.wordpress.com/2010/03/28/whos-lying/

http://extras.denverpost.com/news/news0811c.

A lot of stuff about somebody named Ken lay
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2006/07/05/DI2006070500553.html
And here he is on dateline
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37159913/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/t/last-dance/

Here's a strange one
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20104722,00.html

Here's another article...well, it a post that list the full newspaper clippings. You can scroll down a bit, it's the second article. These two men have disagreed before
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/newsclippings/message/2807

I'm confused. What both ME's? Who are we talking about that worked together? Thanks!

 

[JaimeSommers]

Thanks for the links to Morgan's blog, everyone. Am curious to go in and see if there are any comments that might be creepy or indicative of cyber-stalking -- and the dates of first post, last post.

 

[SmoothOperator]

WBG which ones are you referring to that you felt were provocative posts of Morgan's?..not certain if we can c/p actual posts so even if youll just paraphrase, or just give the date of the post you saw as provocative..

TIA

 

[twinkiesmom]

Sorry you're having a hard time understanding. I want to hear her story as she remembers it happening, but with the POV or our concerns. If she addresses our concerns in her comment section, that's one thing, but I'd prefer our discussion didn't sway her narrative.

I think that ship sailed when she went on Tricia's show. There's tons of activity back and forth between sites now. She doesn't even have to read here to know what's being discussed.

 

[gitana1]

Thanks. I hadn't seen that before.
In August 2011 she refers to 'her boyfriend'. In December did she still have the same one?

Morgan's posts are provocative imo.
That may be the reason surrounding the not to be discussed issue that was brought up before. It had a basis.

Wait. How the heck are her blog posts provocative?

She writes about facials, making shorts, a movie she likes, creating fringes on a shirt, etc. There is not one thing on there that would make think she's anything other than a nice, normal young adult female with a slight hippie bent/creative streak. Nothing suggestive, rude, offensive, sexual - nothing. IMO.

 

[rollinginit]

I'm confused. What both ME's? Who are we talking about that worked together? Thanks!

Dobersen and kautzman.

Dobersen that wrote the parents report that they posted....and kautzman, the one that called m's death natural then suicide.

 

[JaimeSommers]

Thanks. I hadn't seen that before.
In August 2011 she refers to 'her boyfriend'. In December did she still have the same one?

Morgan's posts are provocative imo.
That may be the reason surrounding the not to be discussed issue that was brought up before. It had a basis.

The only possibly provocative thing that I saw was the last sentence of the facial mask post ... but I have a filthy mind to begin with (hahaha), so it's more likely that I'm reading something into it that she didn't intend.

Unfortunately, no comments on any of the posts. So much for my cyber-stalking theory.

 

[gitana1]

Thanks for the links to Morgan's blog, everyone. Am curious to go in and see if there are any comments that might be creepy or indicative of cyber-stalking -- and the dates of first post, last post.

I saw no comments at all.