Crime scene information

[golfmom]

If you look next to the word SILVER there is a number. either 25 or 27
If you look at the box above the number, there is a key that specifies what that number means.
I can't read the key ? ? ?
Any chance someone else can eyeball it?

 

[Moxie]

If you look next to the word SILVER there is a number. either 25 or 27
If you look at the box above the number, there is a key that specifies what that number means.
I can't read the key ? ? ?
Any chance someone else can eyeball it?

Golfmom,

I can't decipher the key - I wish I could! If anyone can decipher the key that would be fantastic.:woohoo:

 

[golfmom]

Golfmom,

I can't decipher the key - I wish I could! If anyone can decipher the key that would be fantastic.:woohoo:

25 looks like bus ticket and
27 might be coupon ? ? ? but that doesn't make any sense.

 

[anneshirley]

Timex, I had doors just like that leading to my back patio. One door is stationary and the other side opened. Mine were exactly the same way.

GM,
I have two sets of doors just like that as well in my house. And we have blinds on them just like in the pics.

 

[blaize]

Golfmom,

I can't decipher the key - I wish I could! If anyone can decipher the key that would be fantastic.:woohoo:

Hello all,

The key is 'color' & the number is '27'.

Took an image slice in photoshop, enlarged, increased the brightness and contrast considerable and this is what the final slice looks like. IMAGE

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Hope that helps.

blaize

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[anneshirley]

Hello all,

The key is 'color' & the number is '27'.

Took an image slice in photoshop, enlarged, increased the brightness and contrast considerable and this is what the final slice looks like. IMAGE

Please remember that these images have been worked on in photoshop, content has not been changed. Only size, brightness and contrast levels have been adjusted to make viewing easier.

Hope that helps.

blaize

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as far as the code goes...I cropped the code part of the warrant and enlarged it/brightened it...all that jazz and it does look like 27 says coupon.28 would be food stamps. 29 is postage stamps. 30 and 31 aren't quite clear and 32 says foreign currency, 33 other documents, 34 unknown.
at least that's what i think i'm seeing.

 

[golfmom]

as far as the code goes...I cropped the code part of the warrant and enlarged it/brightened it...all that jazz and it does look like 27 says coupon.28 would be food stamps. 29 is postage stamps. 30 and 31 aren't quite clear and 32 says foreign currency, 33 other documents, 34 unknown.
at least that's what i think i'm seeing.

Ackkk! I don't understand. What we have here is silver recovered in the value of either $10 or 10 cents that has been identified as a coupon.

 

[Jenifred]

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I really wish that LE would come out and say something, anything! We are grasping at straws, debating over a decimal point, and figuring out doors is really frustrating! How is anyone going to help LE if they aren't letting anything out? Which then leads me to believe that they don't need help if they aren't giving out details. Hopefully?

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Hi all,

Wanted to ask - after reviewing the search warrant again, it looks like it might just be .10 - not $10 - especially because the detective's notes state regarding the currency that "the above item", which is singular tense, not plural. The search warrant copy isn't the best, but it looks like there may be a decimal point in front of the 10. What do you all think, and what could be the significance?

Ten cents seems much more likely. The significance to me is that a dime is much more likely to have accidentally fallen out of a pocket unnoticed. If it's a roll of quarters or a bunch of change, it almost seemed like it was planted, IMO, or a robber that grabbed rolls of change from the house. IMO, thinking that it was ten dollars worth of change was leading me away from Raven as a suspect, thinking that it very well could have been a burglary gone wrong. Ten cents could have been anyone ... Raven, burglar, stalker ... anyone.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Ackkk! I don't understand. What we have here is silver recovered in the value of either $10 or 10 cents that has been identified as a coupon.

I think there are several possibilities for this:

1) The wrong code was written down.
2) The codes include multiple types of items that are grouped under the same number for ease.
3) It could be some type of arcade tokens, bus tokens, or laundromat tokens that equal a certain amount.

These are just guesses because I can't figure out what the heck any of that means. It seems most likely to me that it was a coin that was recovered, and that it was a dime.

Good catch, BTW! We've been going crazy over this ten dollars, and we were probably wrong about it the whole time!!! Ugh!!! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

 

[Samurai]

What does the word "currency" mean? I mean, I know what it means, but in thinking about this, to me it has always meant paper money, as opposed to what is called "coinage," or "coin." Also, it means money as minted by a government, as opposed to a coupon.

If this had been a coupon, I think he would have written "coupon." My opinion.

The word "item" is not normally used to describe a group of similar things, but maybe if it were being used as "item of evidence," it could be....such and such item of evidence consists of this group of coins. Because they would not list every one separately.

But if we look at "item" as a single object, it therefore has to be one silver object having a value of 10 or .10. A dime or a $10 silver piece.

If we look at "currency" as being money, then we can't have it be a coupon equalling 10 or .10, but if we look at "currency" as also including something redeemable for cash, then we could have it be a coupon. Or a token having a value of .10 or 10.

Are we any closer? Probably not.

 

[Jenifred]

What does the word "currency" mean? I mean, I know what it means, but in thinking about this, to me it has always meant paper money, as opposed to what is called "coinage," or "coin." Also, it means money as minted by a government, as opposed to a coupon.

If this had been a coupon, I think he would have written "coupon." My opinion.

The word "item" is not normally used to describe a group of similar things, but maybe if it were being used as "item of evidence," it could be....such and such item of evidence consists of this group of coins. Because they would not list every one separately.

But if we look at "item" as a single object, it therefore has to be one silver object having a value of 10 or .10. A dime or a $10 silver piece.

If we look at "currency" as being money, then we can't have it be a coupon equalling 10 or .10, but if we look at "currency" as also including something redeemable for cash, then we could have it be a coupon. Or a token having a value of .10 or 10.

Are we any closer? Probably not.

Just shooting from the hip. Are there any casinos around? Or something like a Dave and Busters?

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Just shooting from the hip. Are there any casinos around? Or something like a Dave and Busters?

I could see it being a ten dollar casino chip but not for Dave & Buster's. But if whatever it is only equalled ten cents, I can't see it being either. Regardless, if it was only one coin, it might be completely unrelated to the crime altogether. I wish it were related to the crime because that gives us a clearer direction to follow in contemplating the crime & the movements of the perpetrator. To come out the side door, and move towards the creek indicates certain things to me. If this coin was only a dime, it tremendously weakens a lot of the assumptions that I was making in my head. And then I'm right back at square one. :banghead:

 

[Jenifred]

I could see it being a ten dollar casino chip but not for Dave & Buster's. But if whatever it is only equalled ten cents, I can't see it being either. Regardless, if it was only one coin, it might be completely unrelated to the crime altogether. I wish it were related to the crime because that gives us a clearer direction to follow in contemplating the crime & the movements of the perpetrator. To come out the side door, and move towards the creek indicates certain things to me. If this coin was only a dime, it tremendously weakens a lot of the assumptions that I was making in my head. And then I'm right back at square one. :banghead:

Me too!:banghead:

 

[less0305]

...good catch.....it does say above item ( singular ) was ( and not were...)recovered.............

...then why say 'silver currency' , and not just..............DIME ?

...good grief..... does LE have to be sooooooooooo technical ?.....(and by the way, unless it was a dime minted 40 years or so ago, it would NOT be silver..........dimes now are so light, and are made of alloys...mostly copper/ni ckel...)

...( just trying to be a technical as the warrant...............)

I think it's a dime.......and the "color" of a dime is silver.

 

[Jenifred]

Interesting to see that she was stabbed only 3 times. Any info on approximate time of death? Has the weapon been recovered?

I couldn't imagine! Sad.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Interesting to see that she was stabbed only 3 times.

I agree ... it certainly doesn't scream out "crime of passion". It seems that it was either not intended to be fatal, or was intentionally fatal but done by someone either knowledgeable about exactly where to inflict the wound or someone that didn't want to do any more physical damage than necessary, (almost as if doing it but not really wanting to).

 

[Jenifred]

With so few wounds, I'm thinking it must have been a surprise attack. But calculated enough that the attacker knew where to hit and stopped once they realized it was fatal. I don't think that the perp just snapped because I would think that if that were the case, they would have just kept on going. IMHO.

 

[golfmom]

With so few wounds, I'm thinking it must have been a surprise attack. But calculated enough that the attacker knew where to hit and stopped once they realized it was fatal. I don't think that the perp just snapped because I would think that if that were the case, they would have just kept on going. IMHO.

I agree Jen, it sounds very controlled.

 

[Jesstexas]

in that satellite image. From what I've read, y'all are thinking that the Abaroa house's driveway is the second one, on the right (east) side of the street, just north of where the white car appears in the satellite photo - correct?

That upside down, white "L" thing in the front of that house started to bother me - just what in the Sam Hill is that thing? It's definitely NOT the sidewalk to the Abaroa house - that sidewalk is straight - it's not an "L" shape (as evidenced from the photo below that NCbanker posted):

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/Golfmom/snap0007.jpg

Also, look at the folio surrounding the Abaroa driveway - it's full and thick and very green.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/Golfmom/snap0001.jpg

I know that the satellite image was taken in March, 3 years ago, but the driveway of the house with the "L" shaped thing doesn't appear to have much, if ANY foliage surrounding it where it meets the street. And the Abaroa house is LONG on the side that faces the street and SHORT on the side with the "side door", next to the driveway. The house with the "L" shaped thing is positioned exactly opposite of how it should be. Also, in this picture taken by NCbanker, there is an outbuilding in the backyard, beyond the chain link fence:

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y288/Golfmom/snap0005.jpg

There is no such outbuilding pictured near the house with the "L" shaped thing.


I reviewed the search warrant and the officer describes where the 2600 block of Ferrand Drive is as being "between [the] 4300 block of Rocky Springs Road and the 2600 block of Cohnwood Drive." When you put "4300 Rocky springs Road" into the Terrasearch map, the red dot is in virtually the same place as when you search for the Abaroa address. But when you put in "2600 Cohnwood Drive", the red dot is on a side street of the road BELOW where the car appears (why would the officer use THAT street to describe where the Abaroa house is if it's the one in the aerial photo with the "L" shaped thing in front?). And the last (or most easterly) house on the street below where the white car is exactly fits the positioning the Abaroa house should have. AND there is an outbuilding pictured there, AND the foliage surrounding where the driveway meets the road is thick - so much so that you can't even see the entrance to the driveway from the aerial photo.

What do y'all think?