Still Missing CT - Jennifer Dulos, 50, New Canaan, 24 May 2019 *ARRESTS* #59

[nodamselindistress]

Let the lies begin!

 

[Megnut]

And we're live!

 

[Megnut]

State opens, outside the presence of the jury, informing the Judge, they anticipate showing only Interview One today.

 

[Megnut]

State also puts on the record three issues with the interview.

1. The defendant herself says her phone was seized.
2. The defendant herself used the words "alibi script"
3. A reference to something previously suppressed by the Judge

 

[afitzy]

Yes, she and her family still believe it. They have a copy of Dr Herman’s psych report (IMO paid for by Dulos with Farber money)-and it probably says so in that report. The Troconis clan has been trying to reference that report, and use it in court. The reason I believe the report says JFD had a borderline personality, is because MT asked her lawyer (Bowman) in one of the interrogations if she can bring it up, and he emphatically said “NO!” She blurted out the claim of BPD anyway. Yes, she still believes it, and thinks it somehow exonerates her.

Wait a second, will try doing a Judge R here….

Is the MT argument that murder and coverup and tampering was somehow justified in its entirety by an allegation of mental illness in the Victim which she learned about from a discredited report written by a discredited mental health professional which should not be in your possession, and all because she simply couldn’t get her way?

TP: Yes your Honour you are correct.

Judge R: Counselor, the Court has heard enough on this argument and no further discussion is warranted. For the record please ask the Bailiff to escort Counsel to Stamford Hospital where I am ordering a full physical and psych exam immediately as I am quite concerned.

Court adjourned for the day.
MOO

 

[Diddian]

Yes, she and her family still believe it. They have a copy of Dr Herman’s psych report (IMO paid for by Dulos with Farber money)-and it probably says so in that report. The Troconis clan has been trying to reference that report, and use it in court. The reason I believe the report says JFD had a borderline personality, is because MT asked her lawyer (Bowman) in one of the interrogations if she can bring it up, and he emphatically said “NO!” She blurted out the claim of BPD anyway. Yes, she still believes it, and thinks it somehow exonerates her.

This reference to the report makes me furious. And if Herman did say something like that in the report, I have to wonder how likely it is that a psychiatrist might misdiagnose a woman who is terrified by an extremely abusive and controlling narcissist who has proposed the most preposterous living conditions (that he move his girlfriend and her child into the family home and he and they continue to live off the Farber funds), and threatened to take their children out of the country, but who presents a completely different face and persona to the rest of the world.

 

[Megnut]

JS is upset that the State wants to break up the two interviews which JS believes is really one interview conducted on two days. He is upset with how he'd manage cross examination.

JS is arguing about photos shown during the interview, specifically the Tacoma, plus the LEO tells the defendant that the Luminol shows blood which it never was.

JS is not asking for reactions but wants to go on the record, insisting playing the videos together.

 

[Alkali13]

Man, five years did some serious damage.

 

[afitzy]

I keep thinking that there is some benefit to her, to try and keep Dulos’s name out of it. I wonder if it’s more than just the fact that if Dulos wasn’t involved, then neither was she. Like, maybe Dulos’s sister also knows about MT’s role, and will tell what she knows, if MR desecrates his memory. Strangely, everyone on his side hs tried very hard to keep from blaming Dulos, when it’s obvious that he killed Jennifer. What is up with that?

Delusion and inability to believe a loved one would ever commit the murder of the mother of their 5 children. MOO

 

[Alkali13]

Has JS never been part of a trial before? Aren't all of his hours billable anyway? So much complaining about having to do work.

 

[Alkali13]

He will do it, though, won’t he?

Of course he will, just like he insisted the State was bringing in a racial bias about Albany Ave, yet JS was the ONLY one to refer to race.

 

[lisette]

I don’t understand how her family can see and hear all this evidence, and still think she didn’t have anything to do with it! Don’t they really know, deep down? Surely they can’t really believe that she is innocent.

 

[afitzy]

Has JS never been part of a trial before? Aren't all of his hours billable anyway? So much complaining about having to do work.

Perhaps Mama Troconis drove a hard bargain and he is getting a “fixed price” with no billable hours? He complained about working over the weekend too iirc on the nonsense motion from the other day that was delivered in person at start of day.

 

[Megnut]

State is explaining why they wish to play one interview on one day and the other, for a different day, because of the length of the videos.

JS says that the second interview clarifies things from the first so he can't cross on the first.

He's upset that he only learns who the State is calling the following day and he's forced to prepare the night before.

JS is reserving his cross until after the second interview.

Judge provides an analogy. If an interview were three pages, the State couldn't present different pages interrupted by other witnesses. Judge says the State had the right to order it's presentation but there is a balance. The judge is not moved by the Defense being up to the task.

Judge rules that the Defense can't be truncated and thereby diluted.

Interviews have to be played consecutively.

 

[carolmaria]

Man, five years did some serious damage.
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Wonder if her foregoing the face fluff is part of defense strategy.

 

[Alkali13]

This reference to the report makes me furious. And if Herman did say something like that in the report, I have to wonder how likely it is that a psychiatrist might misdiagnose a woman who is terrified by an extremely abusive and controlling narcissist who has proposed the most preposterous living conditions (that he move his girlfriend and her child into the family home and he and they continue to live off the Farber funds), and threatened to take their children out of the country, but who presents a completely different face and persona to the rest of the world.

We've gotten no indication that JFD's behavior is remotely in line with BPD (although obviously we aren't privy to everything). If she showed signs of extreme fears of abandonment, I would assume it involves the children and is completely understandable given the circumstances. No indication of self-harm or dangerous, impulsive behavior. Again, any symptoms like emotionality and anxiety are easily explained by the situation she was in.

 

[Alkali13]

I don’t understand how her family can see and hear all this evidence, and still think she didn’t have anything to do with it! Don’t they really know, deep down? Surely they can’t really believe that she is innocent.

Denial of your loved ones being capable of such a heinous act is strong.

 

[Alkali13]

Wonder if her foregoing the face fluff is part of defense strategy.

I wonder this too. Almost like how older men are suddenly severely ill and lame when they're suddenly in court. Make her look more elderly and not vain to create sympathy.

 

[waldojabba]

Here is the map detailing bike timing and routes assuming a Lapham Rd starting point. But, I'm not sure that this was where FD started as if he had an accomplice imo its possible he could have been dropped closer to Welles house.
Source: Google Maps

From long ago so IIRC -I think the camera that caught FD on the vintage bike was on Weed St - also I remember the mention that they thought perhaps he turned left off weed st onto Indian Spring (which is a dead end) and went thru the woods that connect with JFD backyard. So I guess it depends where he left his bike. Did he actually go that way and leave the bike just a bit into the woods off Indian Waters and walk the shot distance to JFD back yard. Did he walk the bike with him thru the woods and leave it in the woods just behing JFD house. If that was the case he could reacess
that bike/those woods easily from Thurton Dr or Indian Springs. Do we know he didn't just put it in the suburban before leaving Jennifers? Easy enough to take the wheels offetc jmo

 

[Megnut]

State calls John Kimball, Connecticut State Police, originally canned in to assist with the missing person case but eventually the State Police became primary. He was lead investigator.

Responded to Welles. Identified bloodlike stains on the garage floor.

FD was a POI and began an investigation, learning about properties. State asks if he knows which ones.

JS objecting under hearsay. Overruled.

State asks for leeway. Asking not for the truth of the matter, as groundwork for the video.
4 Jefferson Crossing
80 Mountain Spring Road
Old mountain road, land
Deercliff.

Witness knew FD, the defendant and her daughter lived at 4J.

Was aware FD's phone was seized and location data placed his phone in Hartford. Personally reviewed some surveillance video at C4. Was aware that clothing has been found in Hartford. Based on that, he sought a warrant and full body photography and fingerprints.

JS objects. State asks to be heard at sidebar.