GUILTY FL - Lisa Story, 32, & Robin Cornell, 11, slain, Cape Coral, 10 May 1990 *Arrest in 2016*

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tracy87 said:
unfortunately, not a lot. cape coral was quite a bit smaller back then.

if i am remembering correctly: cape coral police was "small town", don't know if they had a lot of "experience" in big crimes.

i still keep in touch with some girls that work in cape coral. (as a matter of fact one of them just joined WS.) i will talk with them and see if they can think of anything else.

as a matter of fact, i think i will send her an e mail and ask her to take a look at this thread.
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That would be great! Thanks so much!
 
Bennettras said:
Is there any way LE can get DNA from the Mexican Government? I'm sure they tried. They at least have fingerprints. How do we find out about this stuff? :banghead:
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JeannieC said:
That's a good question and I bet Believe09 would know. I suspect the Vidocq Society got the DNA from his body. In the report they produced they said they had "new", or DNA that had not been tested, or something like that and I believe Fla was waiting for the test results from that DNA. I'll have to go back and read the report again.

Knowing what we now know I bet it was Addis' DNA. It is just so sad that he got away with all these murders. Sure he committed suicide but only when he knew he would either go to a Mexican Prison and die or do it himself....of course it could have been Mexican justice...........lol :banghead:

Sorrrrry..........shame on me. Mexican LE would never do that!

:truce:
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Believe09,

Any way DNA can be obtained from the Mexican government? Thanks. I just believe that Addis was involved. Is there any info you can give me so that I can look into this?
 
Cape detective to take part in TV show taping August 17, 2010

http://www.cape-coral-daily-breeze.com/page/content.detail/id/518631.html?nav=5011&showlayout=0


In May, police officials reported that new DNA evidence was being submitted for testing. The person's DNA and fingerprints did not match those gathered at the crime scene. Ellis called the once possible lead "very, very hopeful."

"We'll take anything," she said. "We would rather run things down and come to dead-ends than have nothing."

One person who is perhaps the most excited about the third airing is Cornell.

"She's so excited, she's ectatic," Ellis said. "Maybe the third time's the charm, if you will."
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I believe they are testing DNA they are getting from inmates who are possible POI's. That is the only reason I can think of to have new DNA for testing.
 
Oct 16, 2006
Fugitive Ex-Cop Found Dead In Guatemala

Suspected killer and former police officer John Addis has been discovered dead of an apparent suicide in Guatemala. Tragically, it appears Addis continued his murderous ways even with a new life: Police also discovered the bodies of his new wife and two small children.
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http://www.amw.com/fugitives/capture.cfm?id=24462

Addis died in 2006. I wonder if they got DNA from him for testing.
 
Is that fob on the car keys anything unusual. I know it isn the toyota symbol.

Edited just found this on AMW. Police say the horseshoe-like logo on the key chain is from a company called Etienne Aigner. The company is known for making women's accessories. Wonder why a man would have a womans key ring?
 
UKgirl said:
Is that fob on the car keys anything unusual. I know it isn the toyota symbol.

Edited just found this on AMW. Police say the horseshoe-like logo on the key chain is from a company called Etienne Aigner. The company is known for making women's accessories. Wonder why a man would have a womans key ring?
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Good catch! I missed that. I had one like that at one time. Mine came when I purchased a handbag. That does throw something else in the ring to consider. Most men would not have carried that ring. Its kinda large and bulky for a pocket.

Really makes you wonder!.............................
 
dodie20 said:
The sexaul assault is disturbing, to say the least. In my 47 yrs, I've come across 2 people that I know of, who have done this. Years ago, I worked with a lady who told me that her son had been fired from a funeral home because he got caught molesting a deceased lady. The other time, a friend told me that an acquaintance had been fired from a different funeral home for the same reason. So, it seems that people who do this, often get jobs working around dead bodies. It's hard to imagine that this was an isolated sexual experience, and IMO, he's probably still doing it...just maybe not the killing. It's not just that he DID do it, but also that he COULD do it. This is a very sick individual. Also, I wonder about the military. Some real dangerous people manage to slip through the military cracks. I think the idea of moving from place to place appeals to them? But with all this said, it sounds like it could be a very angry bf or ex bf. The engraved watch being stolen is interesting. maybe someone who was mad that there was a Randy? But would a person in that frame of mind assault a little girl? Was she the intended target? was someone stalking her? so many questions.
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From my research into necrophilia, a person who molests an already dead body is VERY different from a person who kills and then rapes a victim. Also, necrophilia is more common than we like to believe. Those with this interest often try to get jobs in the funeral home business or other places with access to the dead. these sorts of people will describe feelings of romantic attatchment to the dead. They do not see it as a way to degrade the dead person, unlike those who kill a person then has sex with it.
Keep in mind, too, that the murderer in this case is thought to have found Story's sex toy and pornographic magazine. These items likely aroused him. It may be he did not intend to rape their bodies, but could not control his sick desires once those items turned him on.
 
JeannieC said:
VIDOCQ INVESTIGATION FINDINGS
They think a person or persons entered the townhouse through a sliding glass door, then climbed the stairs to the bedrooms.

They believe the killer or killers found Lisa Story first and quickly suffocated her with a pillow.

They think Robin heard a noise and came to investigate, and that she was silenced with blows to the face and then suffocated.

They believe that while ransacking the place, the killer found a pornographic magazine and a sex toy belonging to Story, and then violated the bodies of his victims.

Society members were intrigued by the pornographic magazine, and by the fact the killer apparently perused it near the foot of Story's bed. It might have prompted his post-mortem burst of sexual violence, they said.

"It fits a certain deviant profile," said psychologist Walter. "In the minds of some killers, the murder isn't over until they say it is over. I hope the Cape Coral police will explore this fully."

The briefing prompted a host of questions:

Footprints in the bathroom suggested the killer might have taken a shower. Were the drain contents collected, someone asked. No, came the answer.

Was the neighborhood canvassed? Yes.

Were stolen credit cards used? No.

Were phone records carefully examined? Yes, but a better job could have been done, Garrett answered.

Toyota car keys were found on the scene. Were traffic records checked for possible stops of a Toyota around the time of the crime? Yes.

Lisa Story and Jan Cornell worked together at Cape Coral Hospital. Were those connections, and their friendships and relationships, thoroughly explored? Yes, Garrett said.

READ THE ENTIRE ARTICLE:

http://www.sptimes.com/2002/07/19/State/Profilers_warm_to_kil.shtml
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This is an interesting article. It states that :

1. Lisa Story had just moved in the night before she was murdered. This is highly coincidental, and I do not subscribe to coincidences in events like this. MOO . Where and with whom did Lisa live before she moved in ?

2. Boxes containing Lisa's belongings were downstairs, but the killer(s) only ransacked the upper part of the house. He/They supposedly found a *advertiser censored* magazine and a sex toy belonging to Lisa. Seems strange : she had unpacked these items apparently very quickly ?

3. Jan Cornell fell asleep on the couch at her boyfriends house.She woke up at 4 am. She had to be in work at 4 :30 am. When she got to the townhouse, she "became vaguely conscious of footsteps " inside the house.But both locks were locked on the front door,and she could not get in... Most apartments/townhouses had carpeted floors back then. I do not understand how Jan heard footsteps inside the apartment if she was standing outside by the front door. In any case, her memory of the footsteps has now become less certain with the passing of time. She ran to the side patio, and the sliding door was open.Kitchen light was on.

I read in another news report that LE thinks the killer(s) entered at around midnight. And that Jan left at 11pm. And so, it seems that the killer(s) were still in the house when she arrived back there, shortly after 4 am.

Was Jan in the habit of staying over at her boyfriend's house ? If so, who had been babysitting Robin before that night ? If her shifts normally began at 4:30 am,who took care of Robin, and got her off to school etc. ?

Also,where did the side patio lead to ? Was Jan aware of any sounds of a vehicle starting up ? If not, the killer(s) may well have lived quite close by. Close enough to know the layout of the townhouse, and how to exit quickly...

The keyring is very interesting. I saw a photo of it, and it seems that there were 4 keys on the ring. 2 keys to a Toyota vehicle.And two housekeys. Could it have been the killers housekeys ?

The placement of the photos of Jan's daughters on the ironing board right in the kitchen is also interesting. Because they seem to have been positioned in such a way that the killer knew that this would be the first thing Jan would see when she first entered the kitchen from the open slider doors.. Who else knew about the fact that the front doorknob could not be unlocked from the outside if the lock was locked from the inside ? In any case, I view the placement of those photos as an implicit threat to Jan.

The website Justicefor.org has the killer described as a white male, with light blond hair, 25 - 40 years old...

Based on what I read so far, I believe that the killer lived very close to the townhouse, probably within that complex. He had also probably been watching Jan and her daughter for a while. JMO
 
I do not think it is that strange that Lisa unpacked the sex toy and pornographic material right away. I can imagine that Jan and Robin would volunteer to assist her with the unpacking at some point, so Lisa probably didn't want to run the risk of them going to unpack the box it was in.

I get the impression that the killer was very comfortable in the house. He spent time there with the bodies and rifling through things. And possibly took a shower. it is as if he had spent time there before.
 
parakeet said:
I do not think it is that strange that Lisa unpacked the sex toy and pornographic material right away. I can imagine that Jan and Robin would volunteer to assist her with the unpacking at some point, so Lisa probably didn't want to run the risk of them going to unpack the box it was in.

I get the impression that the killer was very comfortable in the house. He spent time there with the bodies and rifling through things. And possibly took a shower. it is as if he had spent time there before.
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Parakeet,
I wonder how LE knew the *advertiser censored* mag and sex toy belonged to Lisa ? And that these items were not brought in by the killer ? Did Jan mention it ? If so, it seems really strange...MOO. I have read that the two women were aquaintances, workmates. Not so much friends. This,combined with the fact that Lisa had only moved in the night before, makes it very unlikely that Lisa mentioned these items to Jan...MOO

Agree that the killer was very comfortable in the house. If he had been watching the house that night,how could he possibly have known that Jan would fall asleep, and wouldn't wake up until 4 am ? For all he knew,she and her boyfriend could have returned at any time ? And could have been armed ? Likewise with the locks on the door...how could he have knoWn that locking the doorknob lock would make it impossible to open the door from the outside.

He could have been in that house before. Is it positive that the killer got in through the sliding doors ? JMO
 
Another issue : what was the killer's motive ?

According to LE he raped the two females because he found the *advertiser censored* mag and sex toy,and that caused him to become aroused. It did not sound like rape was his first intention. MOO

He took the watch meant for Jan's BF and some costume jewelry -- Jan saw the inexpensive jewelry on the stairs as she went upstairs. But, the killer did not steal a bracelet valued at $2000 which was upstairs... Does not seem like he went in to rob the house ...MOO

He did murder the two females. Therefore, I would believe that his primary motive was murder. Of Lisa Story. With Robin being in the wrong place at the rong time..MOO

He also took Lisa's D/L... at one time it was common for hired killers to take the D/L of their victims after they had killed them. It was so that they could get paid...it was proof that they had done what they were hired to do.

Who did Lisa live with before she moved in with Jan ? And did she have any ex BF's around ?
 
New technology could help solve Cape Coral cold case
May 11, 2015

Now Cape Coral police say a lab claims they can break down DNA to create facial profiles.

It first was discovered after rescue crews could not identify victims of the September 11th terror attack in New York.

Parabon Nanolabs developed technology that can essentially break down DNA so precisely, it can determine hair and eye color and eventually bone structure
 
"'Cold case' implies it's sitting in a filing cabinet not being worked," said Sgt. Dana Coston. "This is an active investigation. Leads are coming in. We take that frustration (from the unsolved case) and channel it to get this case solved."

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"We have to look beyond local and look on the broader scale that maybe somebody with that key piece is not in the area," Coston said.

Detectives say they've gotten major tips within the last year. And they do have the killer's DNA, but it hasn't yet matched anyone in the national database
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http://www.abc-7.com/story/31940424/push-to-solve-cold-case-renewed-on-26-year-anniversary
 
Michael Braun ‏@MichaelBraunNP 4m4 minutes ago
Cape Coral PD make arrest in Robin Cornell cold case

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https://twitter.com/MichaelBraunNP?lang=en
 
DNA leads to arrest in Cape Coral cold case
Posted: Sep 28, 2016 11:21 AM EDT
Updated: Sep 28, 2016 12:08 PM EDT

CAPE CORAL -
Cape Coral police announced they arrested Joseph Zieler for the murders of 11-year-old Robin Cornell and Lisa Story 26 years ago.

Detectives said Zieler, who was 28 at the time of the murders, was arrested recently on another charge when his DNA brought a hit on CODIS from the DNA found at the scene.

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/33269589/arrest-made-in-robin-cornell-and-lisa-story-cold-case-murder
 
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