George Zimmerman Real Time Trial Thread *No Discussion* 7/3/13

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Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
Pleasants is off the stand.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
Pleasants says that strategies on testifying or how to be a witness "was part of the reading" but that it "looks like" not discussed

Jeff Weiner Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2h
Pleasants: "There' no required classroom appearance," but was "mock crime scene." O'Mara: We'll come back to that. #ZimmermanTrial
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Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
Pleasants testifies that course #Zimmerman took was online only.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
O'Mara is cross examining him now.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
We have reverted back to basic audio phone call.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2h
This Skype call is having a lot of problems with pop ups of people calling interrupting the call.
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Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
Pleasants says that there are weekly discussions during the class in question.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
Pleasants says he taught Zimmerman in summer 2011

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
State calls Scott Pleasants. Professor at Seminole State College. Teaches criminal investigation.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
They've figured out a hybrid phone/Skype solution to do this. Jury coming in.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
Prosecutor is trying to fix audio issue so witness can testify via webcam.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
We are back in session. (11am)
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2h
The defense never brought up Professor Pleasants' online posting. #Zimmermanon9

[^^^No doubt, what a hornet's nest that would open to the state!]

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2h
#Zimmermanon9 said in 2011 his goal was to become an attorney and eventually a prosecutor.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2h
The professor now says being a goid witness was not part of the coursework. But it was in the book and required reading. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2h
The professor says there are records available that would show whether #Zimmermanon9 participated but they have not been presented.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2h
The professor says there was no course work about profiling but maybe about being a good witness and says #Zimmermanon9 participated.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2h
The professor says he taught the course on line and can't say whether profiling was discussed in class or that #Zimmermanon9 read it.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2h
It seems that people saw the professor's Skype on air and called his Skype live in court! #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2h
We have found a post on http://change.org by a Gordon Scott Pleasants calling for #Zimmermanon9 's arrest.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2h
There was a lot of interference on skype , a lot of strange noises that caused laughter in court. #Zimmermanon9

WFTV Eyewitness News WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV 2h
Scott's testimony is being repeatedly interrupted by incoming Skype calls. #Zimmermanon9
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Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2h
RT @encproducer: We did research on Pleasants. He commented on petition a year ago, calling for arrest of #georgezimmerman #zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2h
He taught #Zimmermanon9 criminal investigations in the summer of 2011 which included profiling.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2h
Seminole State College professor Gordon "Scott" Pleasants is testifying for the state by skype. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2h
It appears the state thought it was a big win to get #Zimmermanon9 's school records in but never anticipated the door it opened.

Back at 11am...
 
Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 59m
Midday update: Judge allows school records in #Zimmerman trial (from @AP) #trayvonmartin http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268748/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=uMahkian …

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1h
Court is in recess until 1:45p.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1h
Judge is sending the jury out for lunch. #Zimmerman

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1h
Siewert says under redirect exam that 4 1/2 pound trigger pull on #Zimmerman gun is not a heavy trigger pull.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1h
O'Mara is done with his cross.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1h
Siewert: "It was consistent with the muzzle of the firearm touching (the sweatshirts)."

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1h
Siewert: "This gun...is safe in that it will not fire unless the trigger is pulled."

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1h
O'Mara suggests that #Zimmerman gun being double action makes it a safer device.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1h
State is done with direct exam. Defense atty O'Mara up for cross.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1h
Siewert also testifies that the muzzle was also against #TrayvonMartin undershirt as well. Lots of jury member pens move.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1h
Siewert testifies the muzzle of #Zimmerman gun was against #trayvonmartin hoodie when it was fired

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1h
Jury watches picture presentation to show Siewert testing methods/procedure.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
Siewert also tested the blood stained sweatshirt #trayvonmartin was wearing underneath hoodie that night. #Zimmerman

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
Prosecutors bring up displayed hoodie that #trayvonmartin was wearing. Siewert tells/shows jury how she did distance testing

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
Siewert says she was able to determine how close #zimmerman gun was to #TrayvonMartin clothes when it was fired.

Yamiche Alcindor Yamiche Alcindor ‏@Yamiche 2h
Jurors' eyes were deadlocked as Siewert showed them how the gun worked. #GeorgeZimmerman #TrayvonMartin
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Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
Siewert says that #Zimmerman gun was fully loaded at time of the shooting.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
Seiwert is giving demonstration to jury about how #Zimmerman gun works.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
Seiwert analyzed #Zimmerman gun in this case. #TrayvonMartin

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2h
Next is state witness Amy Seiwert, a FDLE crime lab firearms analyst. Also analyzes distances firearms fired to objects.
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
The analyst is up to date on dna evidence. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m
The next state witness is Anthony Gorgone, an FDLE crime lab analyst. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 4m
The jury is in. They had a special long lunch today! Maybe they went out!! #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 5m
Discussion until the end of the day. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 6m
The state says it may not rest today maybe not until Friday morning. The judge told the defense to sit down and tabled Crump #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 7m
The state says Crump is available Sunday night at 6 p.m. The defense does not want to wait that long. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 9m
The judge does not want to do it mainly because the jury is sequestered. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 9m
The defense asked to take the day off Friday so it can depose Martin family attorney Benjamin Crump. #Zimmermanon9

WFTV Eyewitness News WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV 12m
Judge confirms that the state has said it will rest today. #Zimmermanon9
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WFTV Eyewitness News WFTV Eyewitness News ‏@WFTV 18m
WATCH LIVE: #Zimmermantrial testimony continues at 1:45pm http://at.wftv.com/15QGYxF #Zimmermanon9
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Christina Vazquez ‏@VazquezReports 2m
Gorgone explaining the various ways he processes/analyzes DNA in general terms.
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Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 6m
Next state witness is Anthony Gorgone. He is FDLE crime lab analyst specializing in DNA.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 10m
Jury is now back in.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 11m
Judge says she's willing to go as late as possible today to wrap state's case.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 12m
Judge says she's not recessing court on Friday. Tells Don West " end of discussion."

Local 10 Zimmerman Local 10 Zimmerman ‏@WPLGZimmerman 13m
Judge tells defense attorney Don West that he had a month to schedule @attorneycrump deposition
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Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 15m
That would leave Friday for the start of the defense case potentially.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 16m
Judge says that the state plans on resting today.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 17m
Back in session. Attys discussing scheduling issue re: Martin family atty Ben Crump deposition.
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
The dna analyst says sometimes he gets an item and sometimes he gets the swab from an item from investigators. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m
Some jurors are taking notes. Others are just listening. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m
The judge wants to stay late tonight if necessary so they can rest tonight and the defense starts Friday. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 4m
Gun without wearing gloves. 2/2 #Zimmermanon9

[Did they not think it was going to be used for evidence?]

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 5m
He's giving the jury a lesson on dna and talking about procedures. He says he uses gloves but Sanford police touched #Zimmermanon9 's 1/2
 
DLR doing direct....

Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 41s
Lots of jurors take notes during this crash course in DNA by Gorgone.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 4m
The dna analyst says the least amount of sample to get good results is equivalent to a millionth of an index card. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
Juror B29 is glancing into the gallery in the area of where the Martins are sitting. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m
Sometimes he only gets enough for comparison of a known sample but can sometimes can do it even with a mixture of dna. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
The FDLE dna expert is getting very detailed about statistics in comparing results to known dna sample. #Zimmermanon9

Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 3m
Jurors still hanging in through their DNA class. #troopers

Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 36s
De la Rionda about to go over three DNA reports Gorgone put together on samples in this case.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
The analyst compares dna samples for African American, caucasian and Hispanic markers. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
The analyst got Martin's blood and a sample of #Zimmermanon9 's dna from inside his mouth.
 
Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 53s
Gorgone took blood stain DNA sample from #trayvonmartin and swab from inside of #georgezimmerman mouth for DNA baselines

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
The prosecutor showed the labeled dna sample envelopes to the jury. #Zimmermanon9

Analyst explaining what locations and ID#s mean for DNA samples.

He received a single sample of DNA for TM, not mixed with any other DNA.

Asks him about sample recovered from GZ.

He analyzes one sample at a time, although they come in one envelope, packaged separately.

DLR letting defense look at report...West taking his time.....

DLR asking about swabs taken from GZs gun...

Jeff Weiner ‏@JeffWeinerOS 2m
Gorgone now testifying about testing four swabs taken from #GeorgeZimmerman's gun. #TrayvonMartin #ZimmermanTrial
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Swab A matched GZ to blood from the pistol grip of the gun. TM was excluded.

Swab B was from trigger...did not get conclusive results..did not meet a certain threshold to make a comparison

Swab C from pistol slide...not enough info to make a determination for either TM or GZ

Swab D from holster matched GZ..

Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1m
Not able to make determination of DNA for either #zimmerman or Martin on gun slide.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4m
#trayvonmartin DNA excluded from being on #zimmerman gun grip.

Analyst examined fingernail samples, A right hand, B left hand, of TM...
R hand had blood positive..and also match his DNA profile..there was no foreign DNA from anybody else, including GZ

L hand of TM did not get any DNA results from swab..


Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4m
Gorgone also took blood scrapings of #trayvonmartin fingernails.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4m
Gorgone said that he couldn't include or exclude #trayvonmartin DNA on holster. Only found #zimmerman to be major DNA profile.
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
No blood was found on the flashlight at the scene. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
The dna found Martin's blood on the skittles bag. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m
No dna from #Zimmermanon9 was found under Martin's fingernails. Zimmerman says Martin punched him and slammed his head on concrete.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 4m
The analyst took swabs from Martin's right fingernails and found only Martin's dna. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 7m
The same conclusion for #Zimmermanon9 's holster. These are samples Sanford police took after handling the gun without gloves.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 8m
The dna analyst says the sample from the slide of the gun had #Zimmermanon9's dna and someone else's possibly Martin's.
 
Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 3m
No blood or useable DNA sample on flashlight.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 4m
The Skittles bag had blood, a partial DNA sample that matched only #trayvonmartin

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 6m
No foreign DNA under #trayvonmartin right hand fingernails. So no #Zimmerman DNA on Martin. Left fingernails had no blood on them.

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 9m
Gorgone also took blood scrapings of #trayvonmartin fingernails.

Stephanie Wash ‏@WashNews 52s
Gorgone found 3 stains, indicating DNA on Trayvon's hoodie. #trayvonmartin #zimmermantrial
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Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 4m
The state is showing the jury Martin's hoodie which is encased in a huge wood and glass frame. #Zimmermanon9

Stain A blood from front matched TM

Stain B - L sleeve no blood

Stain C - R sleeve no blood

(think that is right)
 
Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 1m
Of three blood stains tested for hoodie of #trayvonmartin had only his DNA.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1m
The dna analyst says he did not find #Zimmermanon9 's dna on Martin's hoodie cuffs.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m
The dna analyst found Martin's blood on his hoodie on the lower portion and more blood he could not identify. #Zimmermanon9

Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 50s
Right cuff of hoodie tested negative for blood. The left cuff had no DNA not from #trayvonmartin on it.
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 11m
No blood was found on the flashlight at the scene. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 12m
The dna found Martin's blood on the skittles bag. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 13m
No dna from #Zimmermanon9 was found under Martin's fingernails. Zimmerman says Martin punched him and slammed his head on concrete.

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 15m
The analyst took swabs from Martin's right fingernails and found only Martin's dna. #Zimmermanon9
 
Analyst to DLR on inside sweatshirt of TM:

Stain A...found blood with the complete profile of GZ..

Stain B...positive for blood and matched TM

Stain C...negative for blood

Stain D...positive blood, was able to obtain mixture of DNA, could not determine which was a major or minor contributor..both GZ and TM were contributors to that mixture..

Stain E...positive for blood and matched TM...small stain on R hand side toward bottom

Also tested R sleeve, negative for blood, DNA matched TM

L sleeve was negative for blood, DNA was a mixture, the foreign sample was not able to ID but not able to exclude GZ
 
AFTER LUNCH

1:46 PM Court is in session, please be seated. I think the Jury has just gotten back from their lunch. Is there anything else the court can take up while we wait for them?

West wonders if Crump can be available tomorrow for deposition? (4th of July)

West wants Court to recess Friday to take Crump's deposition. Also they want to take depos of a couple of other witnesses. i.e. Mr. Benton(?) or Mr. Blackwell (?).

The Judge: The State has said they intend to rest today. The Jury is sequestered. To take Friday off is just not reasonable. Crump has been available since forever. But, West says, wah, wah, wah.

If state rests today, the Defense has tomorrow to use to get ready. Friday is first business day after the holiday. West, "but we were still litigating evidentiary issues after the trial started. "

The Judge: Now I have a jury sequestered and they are going to be off, 4 days? I am not doing that.

West: blah, blah, blah,

Bernie: Trying to finish today, might have to go to Friday morning.

Judge: Let's proceed with the State's case now.
I am prepared to go as late today as we need to for the State to finish today.
Please bring the Jury in.


1:56 PM Jury enters, and did not discuss, read or listen to anything about the case, etc. NO.

State Next Witness:

Anthony Gorgone Crime Lab Analyst with FDLE
He is a DNA expert and statistics specialist and Is up to date with DNA information. Has previously testified 28 times in Florida courts, prior to today.

Describes what DNA is: It is what makes our genetic code unique. It is in every cell of our body.

STR Process - his lab uses this method. His lab is accredited. Talks about methods and controls used while analyzing evidence. And, the outfits he wears while analyzing. Twice a year proficiency tests.

(My aside) There has to be a better way to discuss and inform about the DNA profiling process in court. This stuff puts me to sleep. Meanwhile a full 'military coup' is underway in Egypt.

Witness says that the statistics of same DNA are not based on the world population. Just as lottery statistics are not based on how many people enter.

Now we are looking at swabs that took samples from the inside of George's mouth as well as Trayvon's. These are used as "known" samples because it is known where the samples came from.

Simple chart of the locations on the DNA molecule for Zimmerman and Martin.

Amelogenin location is separate from the 13 Loci. and is the male or female designation. both have X, Y (which means they are both male).

Okay, that's the extent of my ability to focus on that chart.

Now witness is identifying evidence bags of swabs. #174 is comprised of 4 swabs from different parts of the gun. Each swab is seperate from the other.

West is now looking at page after page after page of State's exhibit #203 being offered as a summary of what was done in laboratory. He says okay, no objection to it being entered in evidence.

First chart on screen, the pistol grip of the Defendant's Gun. Yes for George, he concluded Trayvon was excluded.

Numbers in the Quadrillions and Quintillions.

Next, swab from pistol trigger. No test for blood. No mixture of DNA. Results too low to make an interpretation from.

Swab from pistol slide. No blood showed up. Made a comparison to try to exclude. Not enough material to include or exclude either.

Swab from the holster. Major matches with George. Not able to include or exclude Trayvon.

Evidence Package of Fingernail scrapings from Trayvon. A wooden stick used to extract material from between the nail and the skin.

State Exhibit #169 - Swab from Skittles and swab from flashlight. Publish to Jury. Swab from Skittles, possible presence for blood. Partial DNA profile did match Trayvon.
From the flashlight, no blood result, no dna result.

State is going to show some actual exhibits of the museum mounted clothes and the witness is off the stand, at the exhibits noting the places where he took cuttings for his testing samples (instead of using swabs). He examined 3 stains from the 'hoodie'. Documented in his notes what he did and when he did it along with photos he took when he did it.

Findings regarding the 'hoodie': State #119 photo of hoodie before the cuttings were taken. State's 203 Stain A front lower of shirt, positive for blood, partial DNA profile matches Trayvon.
Stain B, from aleeve, no blood..
Stain C, yes for blood, no DNA
He did Right sleeve and left sleeve cuffs, they were negative for blood, and no foreign DNA.
Swab collected test from about elbow to the end of the cuff. All the way around.

Exam or analysis on the shirt Trayvon was wearing on the shirt Trayvon was wearing underneath the hoodie. Did some testing around some stains at bottom of shirt. Did not test around the area of the bullet hole and blood.

Circled stains and labeled them,

Findings:

The gray shirt that was underneath the hoodie:

Stain A, positive for presence of blood, complete DNA profile which matched George Zimmerman.

Stain B, positive for blood, match to Trayvon.

Stain C, negative for blood.

Stain D, positive for blood, mixture of DNA, both are possible contributors. Large stain in middle of front surface

Stain E, positive for blood,

On the sleeve and cuff, right side, neg for blood, DNA nothing foreign to Trayvon.

Left side sleeve, no blood, but there was foreign DNA on that sleeve to Trayvon. Was not able to exclude George from that foreign DNA on the sleeve.

More to come.
 
Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 5m
Stain on #trayvonmartin undershirt, the sweatshirt under the hoodie, had DNA from #Zimmerman on it. Jurors take note.

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GZ's jacket saw 17 stains to test for blood, used alternate light source since color matched blood

Using light source found 14 additional stains, total 31, DNA results can't tell whether they came from blood, saliva, skin cells

a- matched GZ

b- matched GZ

c- matched GZ

d- no blood

e- mixture, major was GZ, could not match other contributor, on back R shoulder

f- negative for blood

g- positive for blood, limited results, no determination
 
stain on GZs jacket

h- ?

I- ?

j- matched GZ

k- matched GZ

l- matched GZ

m- matched GZ

n- mixture of DNA, major matched GZ, minor matched TM, front R hand shoulder

o- matched GZ

p- Matched GZ

q- negative for blood

r- negative

s- negative

t-negative

u- positive for blood, mixture, TM was included, could not determine GZ, on cuff of R hand sleeve, Velcro

v- positive, no match

w- negative

x- negative

y- negative

z- positive, no match

aa- negative

bb- ?
 
cc, dd, ee, all negative for blood on GZs jacket

Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 58s
But expert noted that some stains didn't provide complete exclusions of #trayvonmartin

Kyle Hightower Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 2m
Of the resolvable blood DNA found in stains on #Zimmerman jacket, only his DNA definitively found on all but 2 of 31 tested stains.

Exhibit of defendents inside shirt of GZ, 16 total stains...

a- blood positive matched GZ
b- same
c- same
d- same
e- same
f- same
g- negative
h- same neg
I- matched GZ blood
j-same
k- same
l- same
m- same
n- same
o- same
p- same, blood matched GZ
 
Now showing and identifying photos and stains on George's reddish orange and black jacket.

B's, multiples B's multiple tubes.

George Jacket Stains:

Stain A, for George blood, no one else included.

Stain B, for George blood, no one else included.

Stain C, for George blood

Stain D, neg for blood

Stain E, for blood, mixture of DNA, the major complete match for George, the minor neither included nor excluded Trayvon. Located on the back right shoulder of the jacket.

Stain F, neg blood

Stain G, for blood, limited DNA results

Stain H, neg blood

Stain I, blood, partial DNA profile for George, Trayvon excluded completely

Stain J, blood, DNA match George

Stain K, blood, DNA match George


Stain L , ditto

Stain M, ditto

Stain N, for blood, mixture DNA, major match George, minor match Trayvon stain on front right upper part of jacket, front right shoulder

Stain O, blood, DNA match George

Stain P, ditto

Stain Q, neg blood

R, neg

S, neg

T, neg

U, blood, mixture of DNA, Trayvon included as possible contributor, located on bottom of velcro on cuff of right hand side of George's jacket.

Stain V, blood, DNA too limited to match or exclude.

W, neg

X. , neg

Y, neg


Z. , but no DNA match

AA etc etc on and on.

BB on left hand side of back about 6 inches below the collar?

CC

DD

NOW on to the light gray shirt worn by George. The shirt he had on under his jacket. Encased in a 3D frame with plastic or glass cover.

Stain A, blood, single source DNA profile matching George

B ditto


C ditto

D ditto

E ditto

F ditto

G neg

H neg

I blood, complete DNA profile matching George

J ditto

K ditto

L ditto

M ditto

N ditto

O ditto

P ditto

Bernie done with this witness.

15 Minute Recess. Whew!!!
 
Taking 15 min. recess...I'm going back to post some other updates:

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 59m
We've just learned that @markomaralaw will make a statement after court today if the state rests its case. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 1h
The state said might not close til Friday.. Don't know if they're trying to delay Fulton until right before the defense 1/2 #Zimmermanon9

Kyle Hightower ‏@khightower 7m
All the blood DNA on #Zimmerman undershirt was his. State is done with its direct exam. 10 min recess.

Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m
"We're in a CSI mentality." It's a win for the state that #TrayvonMartin's DNA was not on gun, says @GWarmothWFTV. #Zimmermanon9
 
Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m
Unlikely Skype call interrupters will be charged. Lawyers need to better understand social media, says @BillSheafferPA. #Zimmermanon9

Court back in session...West on cross of DNA analyst Gorgone.

It sounds like a lot of the analysis you did was from samples collected by someone else...correct...he does not go to crime scenes... he does make determination of why DNA is not where it should be? correct, it just analysis what he is given...could rain affect...yes, moisture, heat, rain can degrade DNA..gun is a hard surface and DNA can be wiped off..


Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 29s
Gorgone: Hard surfaces (like guns) make it hard to detect DNA. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 2m
Gorgone: Environmental factors (like rain) can degrade DNA. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 3m
Gorgone confirms someone can touch an item and leave no DNA can be detected. #Zimmermanon9

Kathi Belich, WFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV ‏@KBelichWFTV 5m
And we're back. #DonWest for defense is cross-examining DNA analyst Gorgone. #Zimmermanon9
 
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