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Cross Exam of ME by Defense Atty
Trajectory of bullet - coming in from right hand side heading left - it may have been deflected by the bone - cheek may not have been trajectory originally
Scalp wounds do bleed. Head wound just above the forehead in a living person would bleed alot. If the wound happened at the time TA was living - we would have seen a lot of blood. Depending on when he was cut and how much blood loss from other wounds.
In abstract sense without all of the blood loss -
Had TA been alive would there been blood in his mouth? Not in the oral cavity lodged in the cheekbone connected by the sinus.
Not knowing the distance from the muzzle of the gun to TA - stippling or soot deposits on the skin.
Stippling on the end of the gun on person shot will be burned by dust coming out of the gun. Up to a yard away a few feet away - depending on the gun. Must get the gun and test fire it. burn marks? abrasions - there may be burns but it is gun poweder imbedded into skin. Water from shower could wash out some of the powder but it wouldn't was out burn marks. I didn't see any stippling on his skin. Can't determine a range. I don't think it is contact wound as those usually leave star shaped tear, I don't see soot, stippling or star shaped wound. It could mean some object between the face and gun ie: object or towel between. Likely not up against the face when fired
Upper back - cluster of 9 stab wounds on upper back - grouping in between his shoulders -they are shallow wounds.
#193 in evidence - picture of wounds grouping on back shoulders - center group - three toward right shoulder. Group in center are actually straight on - appear to be . . . equal amt of tissue on the side. the directionality the way they are oriented - the wound is not vertical but diagnal. In terms of trajectory look like center of back - more straight on from back to front.
Group on the right look like they are coming from right to left and into the back trajectory. (a little bit) from his right shoulder heading toward his middle. Wounds are shallow. Less force applied? Depends on force applied - thse were on bone - didn't break into bone in the spine.
Wound penetrates into and perforates the vena cava was much deeper - yes. and it went thru cartlidge - more force than just going thru soft tissue or fat. No chipping of the bone on the back stab wounds.
(Jodi still using the same pristine kleenex)
Reaching over the back would have less force than someone standing behind? generally agree with that. Wound to vena cava - basically lower right chest. That one would eventually be fatal without med attention - due to blood loss. Able to tell trajectory? yes pretty much straight into chest cavity from right side of chest . . . isn't it upper? if it is itis very slight because of where the heart is.
Doesn't it have an undetermined lower edge so it will be slightly upper . . . not undetermined but undermined. . . . decomposed person characteristics are not exact.
It does have a slightly upper trend . . .can happen if person is slightly taller than victim? in a general way that is true.
Trajectory of bullet - coming in from right hand side heading left - it may have been deflected by the bone - cheek may not have been trajectory originally
Scalp wounds do bleed. Head wound just above the forehead in a living person would bleed alot. If the wound happened at the time TA was living - we would have seen a lot of blood. Depending on when he was cut and how much blood loss from other wounds.
In abstract sense without all of the blood loss -
Had TA been alive would there been blood in his mouth? Not in the oral cavity lodged in the cheekbone connected by the sinus.
Not knowing the distance from the muzzle of the gun to TA - stippling or soot deposits on the skin.
Stippling on the end of the gun on person shot will be burned by dust coming out of the gun. Up to a yard away a few feet away - depending on the gun. Must get the gun and test fire it. burn marks? abrasions - there may be burns but it is gun poweder imbedded into skin. Water from shower could wash out some of the powder but it wouldn't was out burn marks. I didn't see any stippling on his skin. Can't determine a range. I don't think it is contact wound as those usually leave star shaped tear, I don't see soot, stippling or star shaped wound. It could mean some object between the face and gun ie: object or towel between. Likely not up against the face when fired
Upper back - cluster of 9 stab wounds on upper back - grouping in between his shoulders -they are shallow wounds.
#193 in evidence - picture of wounds grouping on back shoulders - center group - three toward right shoulder. Group in center are actually straight on - appear to be . . . equal amt of tissue on the side. the directionality the way they are oriented - the wound is not vertical but diagnal. In terms of trajectory look like center of back - more straight on from back to front.
Group on the right look like they are coming from right to left and into the back trajectory. (a little bit) from his right shoulder heading toward his middle. Wounds are shallow. Less force applied? Depends on force applied - thse were on bone - didn't break into bone in the spine.
Wound penetrates into and perforates the vena cava was much deeper - yes. and it went thru cartlidge - more force than just going thru soft tissue or fat. No chipping of the bone on the back stab wounds.
(Jodi still using the same pristine kleenex)
Reaching over the back would have less force than someone standing behind? generally agree with that. Wound to vena cava - basically lower right chest. That one would eventually be fatal without med attention - due to blood loss. Able to tell trajectory? yes pretty much straight into chest cavity from right side of chest . . . isn't it upper? if it is itis very slight because of where the heart is.
Doesn't it have an undetermined lower edge so it will be slightly upper . . . not undetermined but undermined. . . . decomposed person characteristics are not exact.
It does have a slightly upper trend . . .can happen if person is slightly taller than victim? in a general way that is true.