As a Pensacola native for over 60 years, my guess is that it is all over. Until the full details of all the business are revealed there will always be questions. IMO I do not think that most people really understand how a strip club or Pay here car lot operates.
My doubt comes from LE's refusal to consider other motives besides robbery and insistance upon not investigating the Billings family. I also think it's strange that the family hired a lawyer to protect the reputations of the victims. That's very unusual IMO. If a member of my family was murdered, I wouldn't want to hinder the investigation by hiring a lawyer to influence what the police do or say. I'd want the police to get to the truth.However, what REAL evidence is there that anything in the Billing's past caused their murder?
It very well could be relevant. It's certainly a glimpse into morality. It's not just the strip club that I consider on the fringe. Add low level used car business and high interest loan companies to the list, which is merely steps above loan shark IMO.You think owning a strip club 20 some years ago is relevant....
Absolutely! Have you no clue what happens at a strip club? I'm not just talking about prostitution. It's an endless list of shady. Owners of strip clubs know what's happening. They're involved in what's happening too.....and is a fringe business?
I was speculating before he even held a news conference. Nothing about what happened made any sense. People don't go into a house to rob a place and accidently execute the owners --- all within 4 minutes. That alone told me it was more than a robbery gone bad.....Wild speculation is the only thing Morgan piqued at the beginning of this case imo.
They might have been picked to be scapegoats.....Considering the past and personality of JR, this was some grandiose plot to feed his ego with robbery as the main goal. Frankly, the silliness of plotting for a month, getting many others involved, and the ninja outfits, screams amateur and moronic to me. I can't see anyone "top-level" paying these fools to do this, or anyone with a high level of criminal experience doing a murder for hire in such a large (stupid) dramatic way.
I believe there is more to this case. I just don't believe the police are investigating it any further than robbery. They've repeated said as much during news briefings.It's not over at all. There's much more to this case.
I think you and Billy are on the same page with this. I think Billy meant that people don't realize how shady those types of businesses are.What do you mean to say? That they are legitimate businesses under the right ownership? I think most people understand that.
I'd go farther to say that there is much more that we don't know.But we also understand that Operation Dual Identity (an FBI operation) uncovered 17 perps in Northern Florida involved in stolen cars and a market "void" was created. We also know that strip clubs include "shady characters" as Billings' ex-wife made very clear. We also know that Billings financed the floor plan and ALL inventory of Hispanic American Auto Sales. We also know that Gonzales had worked for Hondaland, owned by the same owner of Hispanic American Auto Sales. We know that Gonzales was an operative in the Billings' murder. We know that PLW had financial problems, but no connection to the Billings. There's much more that we "know".
My doubt comes from LE's refusal to consider other motives besides robbery and insistance upon not investigating the Billings family. I also think it's strange that the family hired a lawyer to protect the reputations of the victims. That's very unusual IMO. If a member of my family was murdered, I wouldn't want to hinder the investigation by hiring a lawyer to influence what the police do or say. I'd want the police to get to the truth.
It very well could be relevant. It's certainly a glimpse into morality. It's not just the strip club that I consider on the fringe. Add low level used car business and high interest loan companies to the list, which is merely steps above loan shark IMO.
Absolutely! Have you no clue what happens at a strip club? I'm not just talking about prostitution. It's an endless list of shady. Owners of strip clubs know what's happening. They're involved in what's happening too.
I was speculating before he even held a news conference. Nothing about what happened made any sense. People don't go into a house to rob a place and accidently execute the owners --- all within 4 minutes. That alone told me it was more than a robbery gone bad.
They might have been picked to be scapegoats.
I believe there is more to this case. I just don't believe the police are investigating it any further than robbery. They've repeated said as much during news briefings.
I think you and Billy are on the same page with this. I think Billy meant that people don't realize how shady those types of businesses are.
I'd go farther to say that there is much more that we don't know.
I'm not buying the CIA. The CIA woudnt' do a headline murder.Somehow, somewhere, there is something to do with federal law enforcement, intelligence agency, or organized crime. Something bigger going on that warrents silence. We will never know.
Or maybe, just maybe, the silence is deafening because there isn't anything left to say.
gmab.not your fault that you were in the dark. Ws has deleted all posted related to hct because dt (ex-wife of hct) contacted ws and threatened to them. I'm sure my post will be deleted soon. Perhaps if we were allowed to post all along about hct, le might have been able to catch him before he fled the country.
We may learn that Tice is the betrayer, betrayed.
IMHO - and just a hunch.
Agreed But we always on the same page linda :blowkiss: