Huckaby told friends she was raped by a cop

[Salem]

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/huckaby-school-melissa-2368620-finn-family

Huckaby was considered a "person of interest," but she was not arrested, Ethell said. La Palma police officers are sharing information about the fire case with the Tracy Police Department and the investigatiors.

And don't forget the Cypress police apparently also have something to share

~snip~ Cypress police also are cooperating with the Tracy Police Department, said Sgt. Tom Bruce, but he declined to say if officers provided information about any specific incidents. ~end snip~

Salem

 

[MIMOMMY]

No offense and all compassion aside - There are PLENTY of single mothers out there, who meet the description of having been raped, trying to hold down a job, and raise a child alone, Im sure they've all had their "hearts broken", many have thousands of dollars in debt, and receiving public assistance to try and get thru the "hard spots" in life --- I personally have been in that exact situation - broke, no help from anyone, child of a "broken" family system - yet, you dont see my face in the news because I raped and killed my daughters playmate.

 

[Melanie]

there are lots of details in this article, none of which seem to correlate with any significance:

At age 18, her heart was broken.
She didn't make the dance team.
Her best friend went to college.
She didn't get along with her family.

Snipped Respectively --

IMHO - pretty much sums up most senior's or just off to college women. I agree - totally insignificant.

Bless,

Melanie

 

[ilovemew]

Can someone please tell me if you have to use the word "alleged" here on websleuths? It seems to me that we discuss cases here freely. I think we all know the innocent until proven guilty motto but if that was true in regards to discussing cases than we wouldn't have forums until after the trials. Anyway just my :twocents:

 

[Salem]

Hi ilovemew - I never use the word "allege" unless I am trying to make a point about something and I haven't gotten in trouble

We should always state that what we say is "just my opinion" because it helps ward off defamation claims and other legal stuff. I agree that we are all adults here (or at least we should be) with the basic understanding of innocent until proven guilty. That shouldn't keep us from having our own opinions. Nor should it keep anyone from voicing the opposite opinion.

Salem

Just my opinion

 

[nursebeeme]

I finally found the thread where the fires are being discussed

I remember reading a post from someone here on another case and they were talking about a type of personality disorder and what caught my eye was this person said "when we have this type "PD" on the ward, you can always tell...because half of the staff will think the patient is worthy of defense and is very nice, and the other half will see them for who they are...." something along those lines...that the staff will be divided in opinion of the patient...

Then we see reports of MH prior to her current arrest, some depict her as sweet, unassuming, and that they can't fathom how she could be involved. The we see reports such as the landlady who called her "secretive" and pretty much said that MH could have been responsible for arson.

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hair cut and bold by me... I did not post about personality disordered patients in the hospital setting... but after reading your post Kat, I can tell you....THAT IS TRUE! I have been an RN almost 18 years now and I can tell you that manipulative people can show a pretty side to some and their fangs to others. As to what PD this could be... I am leaning toward bipolar disorder with sociopathic personality disorder traits. Just moo from my little corner of the world.

I truly see a lot of uncontrolled mania in this woman (fires, theft, poor impulse control with grabbing children/taking them without permission as in the other incident). I would not be surprised in the least to find out that she also has other seemingly minor compulsions and/or manias that her family never thought twice about. I guess we shall see. Of course this was moo...

 

[future criminologist]

I don't think we should automatically assume she's lying about the rape. She doesn't seem to me to be a pathological liar, at least in the same way as Casey Anthony, who will absolutely never state a true thing.

and obviously she didn't go to the authorities because the guy was a cop. most rapes go unreported, so I don't think it should be assumed she's lying because she didn't report it, as the article insinuates.

 

[txsvicki]

If Huckaby is a sociopath, she may feel sorrow and anxiety--for herself, but she won't feel guilt or remorse. But she may be something else...I can't put my finger on it. The cutting and suicide attempts, acting out--she obviously wanted attention. What she seems to have done is engaged in extreme "payback" when she felt rejected or didn't get what she wanted or didn't like someone for some reason. I'm just speculating, of course, but something is going on with her, an undercurrent now showing up in her patterns. I've known people who are control freaks to the point of planning how to hurt others in some way to manipulate a situation, etc. It's not uncontrollable anger, it's more insidious than that, I feel.

I'm starting to wonder if her child is "sickly" for reasons other than natural causes.

This woman is giving me a major case of the creeps. There have been female killers in history who have had long runs of committing abuse crimes against others, including children, even their own. I'm sure you all know of this. Reading the emerging history of Huckaby is making the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

Well, she was able to move in with the grandparents and not have to work in order to spend more time with the super think and sickly child. It's also giving me a case of the creeps, daily as I read more and more about this woman. It's as frightening as any male I've ever read about.

 

[future criminologist]

well OF COURSE they "cleared" him - he's one of their own!

just because the accusation is from an accused child murderer, doesn't mean this didn't happen. it just means they can't prove it/don't want to pursue it at this time.

and I don't see any indication that she's using it as an "excuse" - she had told her friends about it long before Sandra Cantu.

in what other contexts does she describe herself as a victim? I hadn't read that she's accused anyone else of victimizing her.

I'm gonna play devil's advocate and believe her on this one.

 

[Kat]

I don't think we should automatically assume she's lying about the rape. She doesn't seem to me to be a pathological liar, at least in the same way as Casey Anthony, who will absolutely never state a true thing.

and obviously she didn't go to the authorities because the guy was a cop. most rapes go unreported, so I don't think it should be assumed she's lying because she didn't report it, as the article insinuates.

I understand and I really do respect your viewpoint. Mine differs in that, given she is a liar, I'm not ready to assume that she isn't lying about the rape.

With this one I'm going to suspend my usually jaded viewpoint and accept what SGT Sheneman has to say and he said that the LE officer involved has been cleared.

However, I am always open to change of mind when new facts come to light.

 

[LinasK]

I don't think we should automatically assume she's lying about the rape. She doesn't seem to me to be a pathological liar, at least in the same way as Casey Anthony, who will absolutely never state a true thing.

and obviously she didn't go to the authorities because the guy was a cop. most rapes go unreported, so I don't think it should be assumed she's lying because she didn't report it, as the article insinuates.

Now the interesting thing is that I do believe Casey Anthony suffered some kind of sexual abuse/incest, but I don't believe it in Melissa Huckaby's case.

 

[nursebeeme]

I don't think we should automatically assume she's lying about the rape. She doesn't seem to me to be a pathological liar, at least in the same way as Casey Anthony, who will absolutely never state a true thing.

and obviously she didn't go to the authorities because the guy was a cop. most rapes go unreported, so I don't think it should be assumed she's lying because she didn't report it, as the article insinuates.

bold is mine.

I haven't seen enough of Huckaby yet to class her as a Casey... but I have seen quite a bit to raise my hinky meter:

1- suitcase is not mine.. cops are getting pictures of a bag like mine to show it to me to compare (to cbs13)... compare that to "that is my suitcase" to tracy press

2- Huckaby states to cbs13 that she took the seven year old girl home and that the mother had her cell phone number but she "lost it".... today we hear that in the police report the mother called 911 and tracy police located the child at the park with Huckaby and escorted them home

3- tracy press confronts her with her past theft history and upcoming court dates. Huckaby tells Ms Wadsworth that is not her. When she asks her why the phone number and address are for "this" Ms Huckaby with whom she is speaking Huckaby again states it is not her. (of course we know now it is her)

4- Huckaby also stated in the cbs interview that her grandparents called her about the seven year old child's mother wanting to know where she was and Huckaby then brought her home.... today we found out that after the MOTHER called 911 police came to the park and brought them home. Today we also hear that her grandfather has a lot to say after this is all over and that he has not visited her at the jail and has no plans to do so.

5- Huckaby stated different accounts about when Sandra came to play the afternoon she went missing.

It seems to me there are many things she said and was glossing over. If they had the sunshine laws in California I bet she would continue to spin those lies over and over. I see a little bit more of Casey in her each day that passes. Moo of course...

 

[QNA]

With the personality traits we are seeing in the suspect, I believe he is innocent and she lied to play the victim card. This isn't surprising to me.

Being willing to brand the officer as a potential rapist after he has been cleared, but defending the woman who raped and killed a little defenseless girl to me is telling. I see no reason to know the officer's name as he is not part of this case, imo. Dragging more innocent victims into this is not acceptable.

Not trying to drag anybody into anything. My inquiry is for the simple fact that he may have been involved in other rape allegations by other woman which has a direct credibility on Huckabys claim. Without knowing who it is makes it hard to investigate further.

Allegedly raped and killed a little defenseless girl.

 

[QNA]

well OF COURSE they "cleared" him - he's one of their own!

just because the accusation is from an accused child murderer, doesn't mean this didn't happen. it just means they can't prove it/don't want to pursue it at this time.

and I don't see any indication that she's using it as an "excuse" - she had told her friends about it long before Sandra Cantu.

in what other contexts does she describe herself as a victim? I hadn't read that she's accused anyone else of victimizing her.

I'm gonna play devil's advocate and believe her on this one.

It is refreshing to see someone else here who doesn't believe that all of LE is infaliable and a pinnacle of truth and morality and take everything they say bluntly at face value.

 

[Nora Charles]

It is refreshing to see someone else here who doesn't believe that all of LE is infaliable and a pinnacle of truth and morality and take everything they say bluntly at face value.

If you read through all the posts since this case began you will see we have questioned most statements made by LE. Start with posts regarding the suitcase.

Logic and critical thinking run rampant on these threads, and each statement made by LE, or anyone else, is evaluated individually by those standards. Keeping that in mind, along with verifiable facts from MH's past, don't be surprised if you find most people typically side with LE over MH. It's likely a trend that will continue.

 

[Nora Charles]

(my bolding)

I'm not surprised at all as I realize that most members on this site have an obvious bias to the victim(s) in these cases. This emotional attachment may cloud reason and objectiveness from time to time, so although I understand their sentiments I also see it as a potential weakness when it comes to objectivity and fairness. I don't mind taking a more objective approach at the cost of not being on the "popular" side of the fence as I think it is healthy for am argument and/or discussion to have this balance. What better way to test the strength and validity of an argument than to expose it to scrutiny, question and reasonable doubt?

I see your opinion is formed as you didn't address my points at all. I won't waste my time defending your straw man. You are entitled to your view that MH should be believed over LE.

 

[QNA]

I see your opinion is formed as you didn't address my points at all. I won't waste my time defending your straw man. You are entitled to your view that MH should be believed over LE.

LE is only speculating with the evidence at hand. They have no witnesses, well not that I'm aware of anyway. Until I see irrefutable proof to say otherwise I will give the accused at least the benefit of the doubt.

And as far as not addressing your point I think I have addressed it by saying that the site has a bias towards the victim. Sure there is plenty of objectivity before the arrest, but once the arrest happened she was guilty as charged.

 

[nursebeeme]

qna, what do you mean about bias toward the victim? That is disgusting!

 

[MCDRAW]

(my bolding)

I'm not surprised at all as I realize that most members on this site have an obvious bias to the victim(s) in these cases. This emotional attachment may cloud reason and objectiveness from time to time, so although I understand their sentiments I also see it as a potential weakness when it comes to objectivity and fairness. I don't mind taking a more objective approach at the cost of not being on the "popular" side of the fence as I think it is healthy for am argument and/or discussion to have this balance. What better way to test the strength and validity of an argument than to expose it to scrutiny, question and reasonable doubt?

So you think we should have more sympathy for a woman who has been charged with burglary and theft. Who was questioned in a drugging of another child, been questioned in an arson case. We should have more sympathy for her than an innocent 8 year old little girl?

 

[Sweetie_PI]

In my opinion it would stand to reason in my book, that the officer MAY HAVE BEEN investigating/onto something MH was up to in SoCAl, and I would bet that she has a trail of drugged kids there too.

TO TURN OFF THE HEAT, she MIGHT have / could have resorted to accusing the cop of rape. Manipulative, smart, and somehow knows all the tricks.

So discovering if that was a possibility would be of relevance to the Tracy case, not for gratuitous revelation of his name, but would be curious to know what the relationship originally was... how did MH attract the attention of a cop? MH and her ilk, deliberately attracting the attention of a cop, is not an accidental thing, IMO. I would tilt the probability meter into the cop turning his attention to her because of something that didn't smell right in the first place.

Remember - pedo actors by the time they get to killing someone have already left a long and ugly trail.

In my opinion only.

PS

(1) I know of someone from my high school days who wiggled her fanny at a male colleague of mine, invited him over to her apt. for dinner, wore no underwear, served no dinner, came on to him (as she herself admitted) and then accused him of rape. Yes, she was mentally ill, institutionalized several times prior and after. Which I came to know only after this despicable little act of hers. Esp. seeing that when I first herad of it, I believed her against my male colleague. 25 years ago, and boy did I ever learn from that.

(2) Where as I do not believe that just because someone has been given a uniform and a badge means they are as pure as the driven snow. However, being balanced and objective means also discovering context as deeply as possible, as motivation is almost always as important as proof, i.e. the reason something "went down", in convicting someone in a court of law of a crime.

So the REASON MH accused the cop - is vitally important. Just as the reason the high school friend falsely accused a male colleague of rape turned out because she wanted a permanent relationship with him, not just sex, and he did not know her rules: he was supposed to marry her after he "kissed" her once.