IN IN - Herbert Richard Baumeister AKA Brian Smart Preyed on Gay Men - Remains Found at Fox Hollow Farm - Possibly I-70 IN/OH Serial Killer

[meanmaryjean]

This private investigator cracked the case of notorious serial killer Herbert Baumeister

The biggest case in Virgil Vandagriff's long career as a police detective and private investigator began when two families hired him to find their missing loved ones in the mid-1990s.

www.wrtv.com

 

[IceIce9]

Former employee of accused serial killer Herb Baumeister speaks out about his experience, the accused killer's temperament

INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) — One of Herb Baumeister’s two thrift stores […]

www.wishtv.com

 

[airportwoman]

Here's the program I mentioned earlier in this thread. It was made in the late 1990s.

 

[airportwoman]

And here's a timeline made a few days ago by one of the local TV stations.

It turns out they had evidence, not connected to him until then, going back as far as 1983.

 

[IceIce9]

Decades later, remains of two Baumeister victims returned to their families

WESTFIELD, Ind. — “Our phone’s ringing off the hook.” That’s Jeff Jellison, who is both the Chief Deputy Hamilton County Coroner and the Coroner-Elect. He said a single phone call months ago prompt…

fox59.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

13News has learned exclusive details about a new development in the notorious case of Indiana serial killer Herb Baumeister.

The push to bring peace to family members of the victims is getting a big financial boost from the FBI.

Cadaver dogs that scoured Fox Hollow Farm in early December aren't the only key to unearthing new clues about an Indiana serial killer.

FBI commits thousands of dollars to renewed Herb Baumeister investigation

The money is through a SAKI grant, the nation's largest cold case sexual assault investigation grant.

www.wthr.com

 

[DS2021]

FIVE sets of remains located in Westfield were added to NamUs today! I'm assuming these are Baumeister victims

NamUs says they were all located on the same day in June 1996. According to NamUs they are all linked to homicide investigations

 

[DS2021]

It's worth noting that sex hasn't been determined in any of these 5 cases. If these are Baumeister victims, these remains likely consisted of fragments. So I'm not sure if they know for sure that these remains belong to 5 different people

 

[DS2021]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

By bringing people, information, forensic science and technology together, NamUs helps resolve cases.

www.namus.gov

 

[Colorado303]

FIVE sets of remains located in Westfield were added to NamUs today! I'm assuming these are Baumeister victims

NamUs says they were all located on the same day in June 1996. According to NamUs they are all linked to homicide investigations

Why did it take them 27 years to add the remains to NamUs? Any idea if they have or plan to analyze DNA to try to identify them?

 

[DS2021]

13News has learned exclusive details about a new development in the notorious case of Indiana serial killer Herb Baumeister.

The push to bring peace to family members of the victims is getting a big financial boost from the FBI.

Cadaver dogs that scoured Fox Hollow Farm in early December aren't the only key to unearthing new clues about an Indiana serial killer.

FBI commits thousands of dollars to renewed Herb Baumeister investigation

The money is through a SAKI grant, the nation's largest cold case sexual assault investigation grant.

www.wthr.com

Any idea if they have or plan to analyze DNA to try to identify them?

This article makes it sound likely imo.

 

[ArianeEmory]

Coincidentally, the DNA:ID podcast this week covered an identified victim of another gay serial killer operating in Indiana and Illinois, although a decade earlier. It made me do a double take when this thread popped up.

Larry Eyler - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[DS2021]

Coincidentally, the DNA:ID podcast this week covered an identified victim of another gay serial killer operating in Indiana and Illinois, although a decade earlier. It made me do a double take when this thread popped up.

Larry Eyler - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

He has some unidentified victims too. DNA doe project is working one of them.

 

[DS2021]

Indiana police recover 2 DNA profiles from human remains found at property of long-dead businessman​

Indiana police recover 2 DNA profiles from human remains found at property of long-dead businessman

Indiana authorities have recovered two complete human DNA profiles from bones and bone fragments found on property once owned by a long-deceased businessman suspected in a string of killings in the 1980s and 1990s.

apnews.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

According to Hamilton County Coroner Jeff Jellison, ISP scientists were able to produce the two DNA profiles this week after being asked to test a batch of remains. The remains, consisting of roughly 10,000 bones and fragments, were originally found in Baumeister’s yard in the 1990s.

The investigation into Baumeister, considered one of Indiana’s most notorious serial killers, began in 1996. Police believe he lured gay men to his Westfield home in the mid-80s through the mid-90s before killing them and disposing of their bodies in the back of his property.

Despite it being over 20 years since Baumeister’s death, the Hamilton County Coroner’s Office is continuing the work to identify his victims.

Part of the process is working with ISP on DNA testing, a process that Jellison said may be starting to pay off.

“Really, those working with us from the Indiana State Police are the offensive lineman of this investigation,” Jellison said. “Any identification we may get will be a result of their hard work.”

State Police recover DNA profiles from bones found on Indiana serial killer’s property

WESTFIELD, Ind. — Indiana State Police have recovered 2 complete DNA profiles from remains recovered at serial killer Herbert Baumeister’s property in Hamilton County as the local coroner&#82…

fox59.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Police Extract Two More DNA Samples in I-70 Strangler Case
Indiana State Police have extracted two DNA profiles from human remains found on the property of the late suspected gay serial killer Herbert Baumeister. Baumeister, a wealthy Republican businessman who was married with three children, was suspected of killing over 20 boys and young men he met at or around gay bars during the 1980s and ’90s.

Baumeister died by suicide in 1996 at a public park in Canada after police searched his 18-acre Fox Hollow Farm estate in Westfield outside of Indianapolis and issued a search warrant for his arrest.

“They’re now doing the comparison samples and fast-tracking that process now that we have modern DNA,” Hamilton County Coroner Jeff Jellison told local Fox affiliate WXIN.

Jellison said investigators believe the over 10,000 charred bones and fragments could be the remains of at least 25 people. During the original investigation in the 1990s, forensics extracted 11 human DNA samples, of which eight, all young men, were identified and matched. The two new DNA profiles will be compared against existing DNA samples provided by the family of young men who went missing in the area from the mid-1980s to 1996.

Gay Serial Killer Suspect's Estate Turns Up Two More DNA Samples

Investigators said the suspected killer’s vast estate may contain the bodies of over 25 boys and young gay men.

news.yahoo.com

 

[DS2021]

forensics extracted 11 human DNA samples, of which eight, all young men, were identified and matched. The two new DNA profiles will be compared against existing DNA samples provided by the family of young men who went missing in the area from the mid-1980s to 1996.

So there were 3 samples from the initial 11 that are still unidentified. Adding the two new makes 5. That would explain the 5 new NamUs cases I mentioned upthread

 

[SimsGuy67]

So there were 3 samples from the initial 11 that are still unidentified. Adding the two new makes 5. That would explain the 5 new NamUs cases I mentioned upthread

If Baumesiter did murder Allen Livingston and/or Jerry Williams-Comer, I hope that one or both of these DNA profiles match one if them, if they haven't been ruled out already. It would be great to see those cases get as solved as they really can be. Not to mention the many other cases these remains could match to.

 

[DS2021]

If Baumesiter did murder Allen Livingston and/or Jerry Williams-Comer, I hope that one or both of these DNA profiles match one if them, if they haven't been ruled out already. It would be great to see those cases get as solved as they really can be. Not to mention the many other cases these remains could match to.

I'll be keeping an eye on NamUs for sure. Due to the amount of remains they are working with, this whole thing is gonna be a long process imo. Luckily law enforcement has taken the initiative to collect DNA samples from the families of the other young men missing during that time. Hopefully that will make identification much quicker once they manage to collect DNA from the rest of the remains.

 

[IceIce9]

I live in Hamilton County IN and can’t believe I’ve not hard of this.

Here's what we know about notorious Indiana serial killer Herbert Baumeister

In 1996, Hamilton County sheriff's deputies found thousands of thousands of decomposed and charred bone fragments on Herbert Baumeister's Fox Hollow Farms in Westfield.

www.wrtv.com

When I mention this case to people who have moved to our area they can’t believe it ever happened here. It is such a beautiful area it is difficult to imagine that such evil took place.