Is Casey the real Zenaida?

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Does anyone know why the initial report by LE states that the Sawgrass people checked the data bases for visitors with the name ZG and pulled one up that had visited Sawgrass on April 17, 2008?

Has this conflict been sleuthed out/explained? How did the date change to June 17?

I noticed this a week or so ago and it keeps bugging me.
 
Does anyone know why the initial report by LE states that the Sawgrass people checked the data bases for visitors with the name ZG and pulled one up that had visited Sawgrass on April 17, 2008?

Has this conflict been sleuthed out/explained? How did the date change to June 17?

I noticed this a week or so ago and it keeps bugging me.

It was an error on the part of whoever was filling out the report, or so it has been explained.
 
Hello WS

Okay. I read the zanni timeline thead, another I can't remember the name of and this one because the idea that a REAL ZG showed up at SGA on June17th is driving me crazy. I hit a point during one of these three Zanny threads where I "understood" that the answer could be as simple as "Casey is the ZG that went to SGA on the 17th"-that thought came to me after WSers posted re: June16th when LE went to investigate they took with them 12 pictures of someone...

It made me think: yes! Casey just went there the day after the "deed" and (as I agree with most of this thread ZG is her long running aka) used her fake ZG persona to inquire about the apartment. Maybe even thinking ahead that she was going to "pin" this on ZG and had to leave a "papertrail." (But that bothers me because I also agree with WSers who say Casey wasn't this organized or whathaveyou).

But, that only makes it even more strange that a REAL ZG would be claiming that SHE was also there on June17th?

How did this go WS? If the card ZG filled out(or was filled out by the manager as she spoke) had a phone number that was disconnected(yes?)then how did LE end up contacting the ZG that says she was there on June17th? Do we know?

Thank you

....jmo...
 
Hello WS:)


I hope its okay if this gets posted here, I think it shows deeply that ZG/the nanny does not exist-unless it's casey-omg...I have my threads confused but it is here we talk about the 12 pictures LE showed to the manager of SGA, yes? I just wanted to say if its okay: the real ZG states to LE that she was contacted on July16th. Again, with my question on my last post...how did LE know to go see THAT ZG? I can see that they must have gone to SGA because Casey sent them there: I agree that "realZG" could not have been known till after speaking to the office at sga and seeing the card that was filled out-but-with the phone number being disconnected how did they get ahold of ZG on the 17th?

And, if LE went to see other ZG(F)what ruled them out? I mean they are all ruled out because they had nothing to do with Caylee's deminse...but this one ZG said to LE: (paraphrased) No, I do not know CaseyA or her daughter but yes, I was at SGA. Now, I do not want to assume that the real ZG did make that statement: that is why I am looking for it. I wonder if LE and ZG were surprised at the 'coincidence'?

SUPPLEMENT #1 - INCIDENT REPORT (07/16/08):

Over the course of the next several weeks, myself along with several other detectives and investigators began to speak to several people who may help us find the missing Caylee or help identify Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez. Detectives who spoke with people who could provide us with some information wrote suppliments to this report. As of this writing, there is no one aside from the defendant herself who ever saw or spoke with the "nanny" Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez.

On July 17, Detective Jerold White obtained a court order for the defendant's cell phone records (407-619-9286). Inspection of these reords show no numbers belonging to a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez, Jeffery Hopkins (in Jacksonville, Florida), or Juliette Lewis. As to the "private phone call" received on July 15th around 1200 hrs where the defendant claims to have spoken to Caylee, there is no incoming call to her cell phone at that time. The closest two incoming phone calls to her phone came in at 0013 hrs from Anthony Lazzaro and the next at 1535 hrs. from someone named "Kyle".


The defendant claims that while employed with Kodak, her manager was Mike Cozak. She claimed that Jeffery (Hopkins) and Juliette (Lewis) also worked there. I spoke with Dee Crawford, Director of Human Resources for Event Imaging solutions Group (aka Kodak) who confirmed that Mike Cozak had worked for them, but there are no employment records for any Jeffery Hopkins or Juliette Lewis. On July 30th I would call and speak with Mike Cozak who confirmed Casey worked with him in 2005, but he could remember no Jeffery Hopkins or Juliette Lewis.

The defendant says Kodak was taken over by Colorvision in 2006. I spoke with Dianne Tighe, vice president of Human Resources for Colorvision and asked if any of the above mentioned people worked for them. Diane Tighe says that neither Jeffery Hopkins, Juliette Lewis or the defendant ever worked for Colorvison.

The defendent says that Zenaida's roommate Raquel Farrell was a hostess at (TGI) Friday's. I contacted Rich Garrad, corporate recruiting specialist of Carlson Restaurants Worldwide who own the TGI friday stores, who confirmed that they do not have nor have had in the past an employee named Raquel Farrell. He tried several versions and spellings of this name, still with no results.

On July 29th, Lee Anthony provided Det. Cpl. Eric Edwards a copy of some of the defendant's email. At the end of this email thread, was what appeared to be a forwarded email from a "Thomas Franck" about a Universal event.


Orange County Sheriff's Office
Arrest Affidavit - Casey Marie Anthony
Date of Arrest: 07/16/2008 16:33:00
Case # 08-CF-10925
Discovery Documents Set#2 (Pages 64-65)

SUPPLEMENT #1 - INCIDENT REPORT (07/16/08):

The forwarded email was written to appear as if Thomas was telling this defendant about an up and coming Universal event and what time to appear for said event. The email address for Thomas Franck was listed as Thomas.Franck@events.universal.com. I sent an email to this address and received an automatic reply indicating that the "domain name of the recipient address is invalid" meaning it does not exist. I checked the name and email address with Leonard Turtora, the Invstigator at Universal I spoke with earlier above. He said Thomas Franck was not a Universal employee and that their Server Technology Department has never heard of "@events.universal.com" as one of their email addresses. As of this writing, I am currently trying to identify other email addresses listed and see if these people exist.

As of this writing, this agency has fielded and followed up on hundreds of tips. None of these tips have helped in corroborating any of the defendant's claims. None of the defendant's statements regarding Caylee's disappearance have been confirmed whatsoever. To date, almost all her statements regarding this have been proven as false.

Caylee Anthony remains missing.


...jmo...I:blowkiss:WS
 
Wasn't there an April 17th date that was mentioned early on about ZG visiting SGA? Is it possible that the real ZG was there in April , and someone posing as ZG was there in June?
 
Wasn't there an April 17th date that was mentioned early on about ZG visiting SGA? Is it possible that the real ZG was there in April , and someone posing as ZG was there in June?

It's my understanding that "the real Sawgrass ZG" toured SG Apts and filled out the guest card 6/17/09.
 
Hello WS :)


http://www.acandyrose.com/caylee_anthony_transcript_ArrestSup-No12_081208.htm

(above is link where what follows can be found in full: Thanks to acandyrose.com)

Ms. Macklin continued her written statement by writing: "I was questioned as to whether or not I recognized the name of Zenaida Gonzalez, which I do not. I checked for her information in our database and found she had inquired about an apartment at Sawgrass apartments in June 2008. She had expressed interest in a 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom apartment for herself and 'Jasmine and Michelle." I informed the detective of this and let him know we lost contact with her because her telephone number had been disconnected.

(My note: On NG ZG said LE made initial contact with her via her cell phone. They must have found her number).


I asked Mr. Garcia if he could produce the original guest card. He retrieved the guest card from an office file. I asked him to examine the document and asked him if he was sure he filled out the form and if he was sure of the date of the Ms. Gonzalez visit. Mr Garcia told me he filled out the form and confirmed he recognized his handwriting. Mr. Garcia wrote: "I am sure of her date of visit because our standard operating procedure is for us to fill out the guest card in the presence of the visitor. I wrote the names of Jasmine and Michelle on the form because Ms. Gonzalez told me her children would be living here with her." Mr Garcia offered, after examining the guest card, he believed he conducted the visitation with Ms. Gonzalez in Spanish. He told me he believed the visitation was conducted in Spanish because he wrote the names of the children in Spanish on the visitation document.
(Skip)

On August 7, 2008 I met with Detective Corporal Melich and briefed him regarding the aforementioned detail. He confirmed sworn testimony had already been obtained from Ms. Gonzales regarding the visitation to the Sawgrass complex.

(End)

...jmo...I:blowkiss:Websleuths
 
YM: It’s a question of….
TL: Did I ever see it?
YM: Well, not only that, but I’m sure you’ve also heard on the news it’s not only Zanax that we’re concerned about. It’s also Chloroform. And they all, and we all know that Chloroform is something that you can, you get high off of. You know, it’s not that hard to get off the Internet. Everyone can order it. Before we get surprised by something we, we need to hear it from you if uh, you know, your group is into the, you know, obviously you know, zani bars isn’t that uncommon, especially over in uh…
TL: Right.
YM: In Full Sail. You know it’s either zani bars or weed, one of the two.

I think Zani was just a catchy name that fell into place with the outlandish story that KC made up.....
 
When CA stated on LKL that maybe KC wasn't working so she could spend more time with Caylee---isn't that akin to saying There was NO NANNY?? They don't seem to bring up the nanny scenario much anymore.
 
When CA stated on LKL that maybe KC wasn't working so she could spend more time with Caylee---isn't that akin to saying There was NO NANNY?? They don't seem to bring up the nanny scenario much anymore.

Fantastic point. I just finished listening to the LKL interview and just heard that quote a few minutes ago and I am just at a lack for words... :furious: Also note that she thinks that Casey was only arrested because she lied about her employment. Huh??? Try again - Casey was arrested because she lied about a nonexistent nanny kidnapping her missing child. Another thing that really hit me was that CA/GA have a suspect in mind. Pure speculation on my part, but I think Jessie G. better be getting ready for war. I think they are going to claim that he was the killer. But then they're going to have a fun time explaining why she would have been looking for Jessie in Fusion. Anyway, this has been a very interesting thread, and it is going to be very, very interesting to see how it all pans out.
 
Wasn't there an April 17th date that was mentioned early on about ZG visiting SGA? Is it possible that the real ZG was there in April , and someone posing as ZG was there in June?
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:clap: :clap: :clap:

I wish and hope that that could possibly be true ! ! !

But
I think that the real ZG that has the law suit against KC
did verify that she did indeed go to the actual apt SG on
the date of June 17th

SEE>>>> KC :liar::liar::liar
::cool:
:Banane30: Zanny took CAYLE @ Sawgrass
:banane58: Zanny/Nanny took CAYLEE to the BEACH
Zanny took CAYLEE to Disney World...
:Banane57: Zanny few off into the sunset never to be seen
:Banane15: a g a i n............ oh where o h ~ where can Zanny be ?????
:confused::confused::confused: :Banane12: behind door #1
:Banane12: or is it DOOR #2
:Banane12: or is it ZZZanny the NNNanny behind door #3

:Banane23: or did the R E A L ZANNY ~ head back to PR to her home???

Well ~ The truth here would be welcome !
KC Just tell the T R U T H ! ! !

Little Angel CAYLEE is Indeed Dead Now...
Let this End... Stand Up be a Real WOMAN and tell the
Truth...
CAYLEE did NOT Do One Single Thing To DESERVE THIS ! ! !
Lies, Lies, and More Lies from the Anthony family.
I'm not sure how any of them could possibly live with themselves ! :confused:

JMO
God Bless !
jjgram
 
Fantastic point. I just finished listening to the LKL interview and just heard that quote a few minutes ago and I am just at a lack for words... :furious: Also note that she thinks that Casey was only arrested because she lied about her employment. Huh??? Try again - Casey was arrested because she lied about a nonexistent nanny kidnapping her missing child. Another thing that really hit me was that CA/GA have a suspect in mind. Pure speculation on my part, but I think Jessie G. better be getting ready for war. I think they are going to claim that he was the killer. But then they're going to have a fun time explaining why she would have been looking for Jessie in Fusion. Anyway, this has been a very interesting thread, and it is going to be very, very interesting to see how it all pans out.

I was struck immediately by the absence of the nanny in any answer by CA. Time to reinvent reality again - lying about working to spend more time with Caylee? Unless CA was really on her back about getting a job, she could just stay home and be with Caylee, yes? None of this made any sense. But, there I go again - trying to make some sense of these answers, silly ol' me.
 
Wasn't there an April 17th date that was mentioned early on about ZG visiting SGA? Is it possible that the real ZG was there in April , and someone posing as ZG was there in June?

Amy, I am so glad you wrote this because I remember that, too-but I was starting to think I just must have pulled that out of my....hat. It is concensus now that it was June, but I will have to search around to see where April 17 came from.
 
I was struck immediately by the absence of the nanny in any answer by CA. Time to reinvent reality again - lying about working to spend more time with Caylee? Unless CA was really on her back about getting a job, she could just stay home and be with Caylee, yes? None of this made any sense. But, there I go again - trying to make some sense of these answers, silly ol' me.

Me too - guess we're all just silly!! Just try to examine the logic of the things CA told us last night via LKL:

Casey was arrested because she lied to LE about her lack of employment

and..

Casey lied about her lack of employment to spend more time with Caylee

so therefore...

she was partying in Fusion looking for Zanny and coping with her grief

except that...

she was really working that night.

:waitasec: Huh??????
 
Me too - guess we're all just silly!! Just try to examine the logic of the things CA told us last night via LKL:



:waitasec: Huh??????

and there was only one picture of her partying after Caylee went missing - the one where she was in a blue dress. Of course, I can't tell which ONE of the dozen pics of KC in the blue dress CA's referring to, but that's the only one.
 
Fantastic point. I just finished listening to the LKL interview and just heard that quote a few minutes ago and I am just at a lack for words... :furious: Also note that she thinks that Casey was only arrested because she lied about her employment. Huh??? Try again - Casey was arrested because she lied about a nonexistent nanny kidnapping her missing child. Another thing that really hit me was that CA/GA have a suspect in mind. Pure speculation on my part, but I think Jessie G. better be getting ready for war. I think they are going to claim that he was the killer. But then they're going to have a fun time explaining why she would have been looking for Jessie in Fusion. Anyway, this has been a very interesting thread, and it is going to be very, very interesting to see how it all pans out.

I could care less about what trouble the A's are trying to stir up for KC's friends. If one has NOTHING to hide, then there's Nothing to hide. Period!

Jesse doesn't need forwarned, he has consistantly spoke nothing but the truth.

The A's are desperate, pathetic individuals IMHO.
 
Wasn't there an April 17th date that was mentioned early on about ZG visiting SGA? Is it possible that the real ZG was there in April , and someone posing as ZG was there in June?

It looks like April 17 might have been a type-o on police reports, and the gentleman from SG apartments had to correct police and told them that per the card, it was June 17:

From http://www.clickorlando.com/news/17122200/detail.html

"A leasing manager who filed out the card confirmed to deputies that Gonzalez visited on June 17 and not April 17, which was written on the arrest reports."
 
and there was only one picture of her partying after Caylee went missing - the one where she was in a blue dress. Of course, I can't tell which ONE of the dozen pics of KC in the blue dress CA's referring to, but that's the only one.

Of course!! Since there was only one picture, she must have only gone out partying one time.

If there's a dog, there must be a Zanny.
 
and there was only one picture of her partying after Caylee went missing - the one where she was in a blue dress. Of course, I can't tell which ONE of the dozen pics of KC in the blue dress CA's referring to, but that's the only one.

There are actually other pictures, one was shown on Issues last night with KC in a black dress sitting with AL in a club which had to have been taken after Caylee went missing.
 
I was struck immediately by the absence of the nanny in any answer by CA. Time to reinvent reality again - lying about working to spend more time with Caylee? Unless CA was really on her back about getting a job, she could just stay home and be with Caylee, yes? None of this made any sense. But, there I go again - trying to make some sense of these answers, silly ol' me.

KC wanted to party and in order to stay overnight with boyfriends she had to use the excuse of the Nanny. Working excuse gave her an opportunity to do what she wanted and have someone else watch her child. She knew that CA would make her stay home with Caylee if she was not working (you can see that by the way Cindy controls things) so KC used the Nanny excuse to her advantage. Look at when she had the Grund's watching Caylee and she was suppose to be working.....what was she doing all day??????? Wonder how many times Jesse has thought about where she was and what she was doing during this time because she was not with him!!!!!!!
 
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