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Thank you so much!! Hats off to Captain Gregorio De Falco!!
GUILTY Italy - Costa Concordia Cruise Ship runs aground/flips, 2012
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LOL LietKynes, welcome to WS
Don't worry about being too harsh on this one. We're all wishing they could sentence to life for this. Some I think wish the DP was in place. But as it is it looks like he may get around 15 years maybe. Not near enough.
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The main similarity between the demise of the Titanic and the demise of the Concordia is the cause of the disaster: HUBRIS
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Concordia disaster: Calgary couple who swam ashore from grounded ship returns home
January 17, 2012
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Laurence said he isn’t planning any legal action against the cruise line but does feel anger toward the captain.
“I do because he just screwed up everybody’s holidays. He just did things that were not normal. Not once did we hear from the captain.”
http://www.thestar.com/news/article...m-ashore-from-grounded-ship-returns-home?bn=1
[video at link]
ETA: These folks have another cruise booked in 8 weeks...
January 17, 2012
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Laurence said he isn’t planning any legal action against the cruise line but does feel anger toward the captain.
“I do because he just screwed up everybody’s holidays. He just did things that were not normal. Not once did we hear from the captain.”
http://www.thestar.com/news/article...m-ashore-from-grounded-ship-returns-home?bn=1
[video at link]
ETA: These folks have another cruise booked in 8 weeks...
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i am watching anderson cooper 
heartluv and there is an american woman who was on the ship. she mentioned that she and her husband had been on the concordia 5 days, with no muster drill yet! FIVE DAYS?!? :banghead:
heartluv and there is an american woman who was on the ship. she mentioned that she and her husband had been on the concordia 5 days, with no muster drill yet! FIVE DAYS?!? :banghead:
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Tips on how to survive a sinking ship
January 17, 2012
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Experts say that only about 15 per cent people manage to remain calm during a severe crisis, 70 per cent experience impaired judgment and another 15 per cent become irrational.
While all cruise ships and emergency situations are different, most nautical experts agree you should:
• Make sure you know where your personal flotation device is. If you don’t, ask the crew and make sure you know how to put it on. If you have children, make sure there are enough devices and be sure to find the right size.
• Familiarize yourself with the ship. Look for exits, look for lifeboats. If the ship doesn’t give an escape drill, ask for one.
• Know where you can receive direction if the crew speaks a different language. Most announcements are made in various languages including English.
• Listen for all announcements and the international evacuation signal — seven short horn blasts followed by one long one.
• Only attempt to escape on your own if there is no authority present to give directions.
• If you can’t hear instructions or the crew isn’t helping, head up and off the ship. Do not head to the centre or inner levels of the ship.
• Look for the quickest route off, which may not be the shortest route.
• Do not take elevators or escalators.
• If you weren’t given a lifeboat drill and aren’t sure where to find one, look for crews assisting passengers.
More to read here: http://www.thestar.com/news/article...m-ashore-from-grounded-ship-returns-home?bn=1
January 17, 2012
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Experts say that only about 15 per cent people manage to remain calm during a severe crisis, 70 per cent experience impaired judgment and another 15 per cent become irrational.
While all cruise ships and emergency situations are different, most nautical experts agree you should:
• Make sure you know where your personal flotation device is. If you don’t, ask the crew and make sure you know how to put it on. If you have children, make sure there are enough devices and be sure to find the right size.
• Familiarize yourself with the ship. Look for exits, look for lifeboats. If the ship doesn’t give an escape drill, ask for one.
• Know where you can receive direction if the crew speaks a different language. Most announcements are made in various languages including English.
• Listen for all announcements and the international evacuation signal — seven short horn blasts followed by one long one.
• Only attempt to escape on your own if there is no authority present to give directions.
• If you can’t hear instructions or the crew isn’t helping, head up and off the ship. Do not head to the centre or inner levels of the ship.
• Look for the quickest route off, which may not be the shortest route.
• Do not take elevators or escalators.
• If you weren’t given a lifeboat drill and aren’t sure where to find one, look for crews assisting passengers.
More to read here: http://www.thestar.com/news/article...m-ashore-from-grounded-ship-returns-home?bn=1
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Wanton HUBRIS, to be sure, just like these lines from John Grisham's The Client:
Foltrigg: Haven't we played enough games here? Your Honor, we are all searchers for the truth. A man has been murdered and another man lies dead by his own hand, yet this boy remains silent. What wanton hubris is this? Speak child now! Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord, so sayth the Psalm."
Judge Roosevelt: That's Proverbs 12:22. This is still a courtroom, not a church Mr. Foltrigg. Please sit down.
Thankfully this sort of thing is a rare occurrence and most captains don't strive to impress their head waiter's family.
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How odd. I don't doubt your source, but I was shipwrecked off the coast of Florida in the mid-1970s with 40-some actors who were appearing in The Student Prince at the theater where I worked. We were on our way to the Bahamas during our 2-day break between performance weeks.
Nobody panicked, nobody was hysterical, even though the captain and crew abandoned us immediately, taking the only life boat with them. Some people went below to wake up people in sleeping cabins that were filling with water. (It was an 80' yacht.) One of the stars (Allan Jones, Jack Jones' father) and I counted life jackets and discovered we only had half what we needed; we began polling people and gave life jackets to those (many) who couldn't swim.
Everyone gathered in the open area at the stern as the ship continued to sink. At the very last moment, a garbage scow came by and the actors quietly lined up and waited their turn to be tossed to the other boat. I was last off and jumped to safety just as our yacht broke in half and the bow headed for the bottom. (We ended up with one pulled hamstring, but not a single passenger got wet.)
Maybe it was because they were members of a theatrical cast and were used to working together, but I am still amazed at how calm everyone was even when it seemed we would all end up in the water. I'm sure it helped that the sinking occurred after dawn; things might have been very different in the dark. (Personally, I had grown up in Florida and naively assumed I could swim to shore. Ha! The folly of youth.)
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I am wondering why a captain (the boss) would want to impress the family of a head waiter??? just my hinky meter again.........
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You never cease to amaze me, Nova. I want you around when my ship goes down.
Cypros
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You never cease to amaze me, Nova. I want you around when my ship goes down.
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Well, that was 40 years ago and I was in the grips of a rare combination of young, drunk and stupid. I'm never all three at once any more.
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'The captain never turned up,' says Argentine survivor of cruise ship tragedy
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The absence of the captain terrified us and the crew, explained the seventy two-year-old judge who saved herself by swimming to Giglio Island. My daughters thought I had drowned. Lona also told that in the lack of proper evacuation instructions she decided, along with other passengers, to throw herself in the water.
Read more: http://www.buenosairesherald.com/ar...ays-argentine-survivor-of-cruise-ship-tragedy
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The absence of the captain terrified us and the crew, explained the seventy two-year-old judge who saved herself by swimming to Giglio Island. My daughters thought I had drowned. Lona also told that in the lack of proper evacuation instructions she decided, along with other passengers, to throw herself in the water.
Read more: http://www.buenosairesherald.com/ar...ays-argentine-survivor-of-cruise-ship-tragedy
Not much new information but a good summary of the whole thing.
"This is all anyone wants to talk about," said pollster Maria Rossi, who said Schettino had quickly replaced ousted prime minister Silvio Berlusconi as the most despised man in the country. "A week ago, nobody knew who this man, Schettino, was. And today, he is seen as the worst man in the country."
http://travel.usatoday.com/cruises/...ests-captain-tried-to-abandon-ship/52624526/1
"This is all anyone wants to talk about," said pollster Maria Rossi, who said Schettino had quickly replaced ousted prime minister Silvio Berlusconi as the most despised man in the country. "A week ago, nobody knew who this man, Schettino, was. And today, he is seen as the worst man in the country."
http://travel.usatoday.com/cruises/...ests-captain-tried-to-abandon-ship/52624526/1
"'Sue us if you want compensation' Concordia survivors told"
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...nt-compensation-Concordia-survivors-told.html
WOW, is all I have to say about this article.
I do, however, have more to say about cruises in general. We've all read about disease being pevalant on cruise ships. I wonder why anyone would want to subject themselves to that. Maybe it's MORE prevalent in the cheap seats? This is NOT the first disaster we've seen with cruise ships. Why would anyone want to be trapped in a cabin flooding with water or injured when one of these ships hits a big wave - or worse?
My third, and last worry about "cruising" is the reports of rape, often by the crew, people who go "overboard", and those who just plain go missing from cruise ships. Maybe I've become more cautious in my old age, but none of the above gives me any confidence in cruise ships, or the people who own/run them. Maybe cruising is more of an adventure than any of us thought.
My opinion only
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/...nt-compensation-Concordia-survivors-told.html
WOW, is all I have to say about this article.
I do, however, have more to say about cruises in general. We've all read about disease being pevalant on cruise ships. I wonder why anyone would want to subject themselves to that. Maybe it's MORE prevalent in the cheap seats? This is NOT the first disaster we've seen with cruise ships. Why would anyone want to be trapped in a cabin flooding with water or injured when one of these ships hits a big wave - or worse?
My third, and last worry about "cruising" is the reports of rape, often by the crew, people who go "overboard", and those who just plain go missing from cruise ships. Maybe I've become more cautious in my old age, but none of the above gives me any confidence in cruise ships, or the people who own/run them. Maybe cruising is more of an adventure than any of us thought.
My opinion only
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DH and I are getting ready to book our next cruise right now. We mainly cruise on Holland America Line (HAL). The reason? On our first cruise, we did the inland cruise of Alaska. That was in 1995. We were heading overnight to our last port of call before arriving in Seward to disembark.
We were awoken at about 5 AM by an emergency message over the cabin intercom explaining that there had been an explosion on the Greek registered Regal Star and the Rotterdam (former ocean liner) was the closest and we would be going to the rescue.
By the time we got upstairs to get breakfast, we found deck chairs, blankets, and pillows arrayed in the public areas, ready to accommodate the people rescued. The Lido buffet was closed to passengers as to accommodate them. That was at 5 AM.
We came upon the Regal Star, to see it listing at 3 degrees and all the passengers in the lifeboats WHERE THEY HAD SPENT THE ENTIRE NIGHT! We got reports (via the chief engineer's wife) that there had been panic on the ship the night before. The explosion had occurred the night before, with no at-dock drill. The passengers hadn't even eaten since getting on the ship.
Once it was declared that the ship wasn't going to sink or list too much, the passengers were off-loaded and fed whatever pre-packaged foods were available. This was probably about 10 AM. There was no electricity or running water.
The rescue didn't even begin to early afternoon, because the Regal Star's captain didn't want to off-load his passengers! He wanted the to stay on the ship and be TOWED to the repair yard! They had to fly in a Coast Guard official to order him to let the passengers off.
Not only did our captain direct his crew in a fairly dangerous rescue, he wouldn't leave until he had also transferred all their luggage!.
Fortunately, there were only two casualties. One passenger had a heart attack/panic attack. The other, a woman who had suffered two broken wrists in the panic running down the stairs... she was pushed into a wall in the pitch dark, was provided with a companion to escort her to the hospital and home.
We learned from that to always research the history of the ship before booking a cruise. Google the name and you will find abundant information. Also read reviews at Cruise Critic. It has been a wealth of information for me.
Some ships are "lemons" which have a history of problems in a specific area. We generally stick with HAL ships because we have found the captains and crew to be well trained and ethical. That included a 21 day cruise to South America and Antarctica. The ship arrived in port without a scratch after a week of dodging icebergs and breaking ice.
I was grateful that nobody died in that crisis. This, as others have pointed out, was a result of a very poor series of decisions by the captain and probably lack of training for the crew. I will be watching for the final report of this catastrophe.
We were awoken at about 5 AM by an emergency message over the cabin intercom explaining that there had been an explosion on the Greek registered Regal Star and the Rotterdam (former ocean liner) was the closest and we would be going to the rescue.
By the time we got upstairs to get breakfast, we found deck chairs, blankets, and pillows arrayed in the public areas, ready to accommodate the people rescued. The Lido buffet was closed to passengers as to accommodate them. That was at 5 AM.
We came upon the Regal Star, to see it listing at 3 degrees and all the passengers in the lifeboats WHERE THEY HAD SPENT THE ENTIRE NIGHT! We got reports (via the chief engineer's wife) that there had been panic on the ship the night before. The explosion had occurred the night before, with no at-dock drill. The passengers hadn't even eaten since getting on the ship.
Once it was declared that the ship wasn't going to sink or list too much, the passengers were off-loaded and fed whatever pre-packaged foods were available. This was probably about 10 AM. There was no electricity or running water.
The rescue didn't even begin to early afternoon, because the Regal Star's captain didn't want to off-load his passengers! He wanted the to stay on the ship and be TOWED to the repair yard! They had to fly in a Coast Guard official to order him to let the passengers off.
Not only did our captain direct his crew in a fairly dangerous rescue, he wouldn't leave until he had also transferred all their luggage!.
Fortunately, there were only two casualties. One passenger had a heart attack/panic attack. The other, a woman who had suffered two broken wrists in the panic running down the stairs... she was pushed into a wall in the pitch dark, was provided with a companion to escort her to the hospital and home.
We learned from that to always research the history of the ship before booking a cruise. Google the name and you will find abundant information. Also read reviews at Cruise Critic. It has been a wealth of information for me.
Some ships are "lemons" which have a history of problems in a specific area. We generally stick with HAL ships because we have found the captains and crew to be well trained and ethical. That included a 21 day cruise to South America and Antarctica. The ship arrived in port without a scratch after a week of dodging icebergs and breaking ice.
I was grateful that nobody died in that crisis. This, as others have pointed out, was a result of a very poor series of decisions by the captain and probably lack of training for the crew. I will be watching for the final report of this catastrophe.
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Well folks, we got it all wrong. The poor guy tripped and fell into a life boat. It wasn't his fault. :innocent:
Costa Concordia: captain says he tripped and fell into life boat
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-says-he-tripped-and-fell-into-life-boat.html
Costa Concordia: captain says he tripped and fell into life boat
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-says-he-tripped-and-fell-into-life-boat.html
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Website reviews show slew of past safety concerns raised by Costa Concordia passengers
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2012/...st-safety-concerns-raised-by-costa-concordia/
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2012/...st-safety-concerns-raised-by-costa-concordia/
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Please Note:
Costa Concordia is currently out of service after running aground in January 2012. For the latest news, and photos and video of the ship, please visit our Costa Concordia page.
http://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/membe...=ship&ShipID=371&sort=date_newest&StartRow=26
It always amazes me how some can rate their experience as a one star and others up to 5 stars.
I guess it's all subjective as to what one pays for and expects? 2 years ago I went to Cuba and stayed at a very nice hotel. After talking to other tourists staying at the same resort, they complained they would never come back. They would go to a different resort. When asked why, the complaints ranged from not enough towels in the room to choices in food.
:dunno:
Costa Concordia is currently out of service after running aground in January 2012. For the latest news, and photos and video of the ship, please visit our Costa Concordia page.
http://www.cruisecritic.co.uk/membe...=ship&ShipID=371&sort=date_newest&StartRow=26
It always amazes me how some can rate their experience as a one star and others up to 5 stars.
I guess it's all subjective as to what one pays for and expects? 2 years ago I went to Cuba and stayed at a very nice hotel. After talking to other tourists staying at the same resort, they complained they would never come back. They would go to a different resort. When asked why, the complaints ranged from not enough towels in the room to choices in food.
:dunno: