Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #17

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Momoffourboys said:
Honestly, who can blame them?! 21 days of nothing.

Chinese relatives in protest walkout
March 28, 2014
The panel of Malaysian officials sat quietly, staring out at the rows of empty seats in the ballroom.
BEIJING: Frustrated family members of the Chinese passengers aboard missing flight MH370 walked out of a briefing by Malaysian officials Friday, leaving the panel to stare at ranks of empty chairs while a single relatives’ representative berated them.
With the search on its 20th day, hundreds of family members of the 153 Chinese passengers stood up about an hour into a briefing at Beijing’s Lido Hotel and calmly filed out of the room, in a surreal scene that underscored the simmering tensions between the relatives and Malaysian authorities.
The man who led them in protest — a representative of the families who gave only his surname, Jiang — took the microphone as soon as officials opened the floor for questions following their presentation on the latest details of the search effort.

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2014/03/28/chinese-relatives-in-protest-walkout/
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OMG I saw this on BBC where the whole room was empty and the officials were still sitting at the front, and the BBC reporter goes "can I ask what are you guys are waiting for?"
 
21merc7 said:
I hope so. Could be a chip box cover or something, but seriously. I have no depth perception I suppose, or too many photos and art.

Looks like a piece of paper to me. :cry:

Wonder if geokaren is good with photos?
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It looks like a tray table to me.
 
You'd think something like this (a plane going missing) would make me never want to fly again. But nope! I'm currently in the process of booking a vacation!
 
aa9511 said:
OMG I saw this on BBC where the whole room was empty and the officials were still sitting at the front, and the BBC reporter goes "can I ask what are you guys are waiting for?"
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I felt for those guys. They are doing the best they can and imo they looked so wiped out just sitting there stunned. I pray they find something today.
 
ilovepierre said:
I'm with you on this :)
Malaysia has probably never dealt with something of this size before.
It's not like airplanes going missing is a common occurrence and every country should know how to handle a situation like this. They're a developing nation, so their technology and such isn't as high tech as other countries.
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To be fair NO country has dealt with losing a plane with this many passengers before. I know there have been accidents and flights have gone down in the sea, but even with AF447 they had found some wreckage and bodies within a couple of days - they knew where it was, they had the ACARS data, they had communication. It was gone, but it was not LOST.

I just can't get my head round losing an entire plane and so many people, all the luggage, all the cargo. I hope when I wake up tomorrow (it's 11pm here in UK) there is some sort of new news.
 
cluciano63 said:
I feel pretty much alone in this, but I am not convinced yet that Malaysia is anything more than overwhelmed and showing their lack of inexperience in leadership and technology, so far. I am not sure that many other countries would not have been equally confused in dealing with such an unprecedented catastrophe. Or more forthcoming, necessarily. IMO, all countries are touchy about their affairs. I am in a "wait and see" mode and do not take China's hostility to mean that what they say is all true. Anyway...JMO.
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cluciano63, you are definitely not alone in this thinking!

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popsicle said:
I felt for those guys. They are doing the best they can and imo they looked so wiped out just sitting there stunned. I pray they find something today.
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I feel for them too. They are damned by the media and by the Chinese families no matter what they do.

Surely it is up to the Chinese government to supply the Chinese with whatever information can be disclosed?

Like the Aussies look to our government, and presumably the other nationalities affected by this horrible event look to their government.

It is not the Malays fault that the Chinese government may not be sharing info with its people.

If I was the Malays, I would quit doing these briefings. They are not obliged to do so.
 
ajc748 said:
To be fair NO country has dealt with losing a plane with this many passengers before. I know there have been accidents and flights have gone down in the sea, but even with AF447 they had found some wreckage and bodies within a couple of days - they knew where it was, they had the ACARS data, they had communication. It was gone, but it was not LOST.

I just can't get my head round losing an entire plane and so many people, all the luggage, all the cargo. I hope when I wake up tomorrow (it's 11pm here in UK) there is some sort of new news.
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Me too, word for word :( fingers crossed for tomorrow.
This mystery is extremely unsettling
 
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Brippilaine said:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jessicamisener/things-you-didnt-know-your-iphone-could-do


I'm not sure if this has been mentioned but I found this to be a very neat thing! If the link I posted works it describes 15 things you can do on your iPhone and #4 is fascinating to me you simply click home button and speak "Planes overhead" and it will pop up flights in the sky over your current location and different altitudes and angles! I hope the link works! It just amazes me at the technology and the facts are still so sketchy!
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it doesn't seem to work here! she just said hmm let me see and did a google search for "What flights are above me" :(
 
There have been three accidents involving passenger fatalities on Malaysia Airlines, with a total of 134 confirmed fatalities:
  • 4 December 1977 - [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_Airline_System_Flight_653"]Malaysian Airline System Flight 653 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame], a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737"]Boeing 737 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] registered 9M-MBD was hijacked and crashed in [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanjung_Kupang"]Tanjung Kupang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame], Johor, killing all 100 people on board.
  • 18 December 1983 - Malaysian Airline System Flight 684, an [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A300"]Airbus A300 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] leased from [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_Airlines"]Scandinavian Airlines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] and registered OY-KAA, crashed 2 kilometres (1.2 mi) short of the runway in [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_Abdul_Aziz_Shah_Airport"]Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] on a flight from Singapore. There were no fatalities, but the aircraft was written-off.[74]
  • 15 September 1995 - [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_2133"]Malaysia Airlines Flight 2133 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame], a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fokker_50"]Fokker 50 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] registered 9M-MGH touched down too far along the runway at [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawau_Airport"]Tawau Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame], Sabah and crashed in a shantytown during the subsequent go-around. Of the 49 passengers and 4 crew on board, 32 passengers and 2 crew were killed. The probable cause was poor handling of the aircraft by the pilot.[75]
  • 15 March 2000 - Malaysia Airlines Flight 85, an [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A330"]Airbus A330 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] registered 9M-MKB was damaged by a chemical called [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxalyl_chloride"]Oxalyl chloride - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame], which leaked from canisters during unloading after its arrival at Kuala Lumpur from [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing"]Beijing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]; causing damage to the fuselage. The five-year-old Airbus was sufficiently damaged to be written-off.[76]
  • 1 August 2005 - a [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777"]Boeing 777 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] registered 9M-MRG operating Malaysia Airlines Flight 124 departed [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perth_Airport"]Perth Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] for Kuala Lumpur. Climbing through 38,000 feet a faulty accelerometer caused the aircraft's [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Data_Inertial_Reference_Unit"]Air data inertial reference unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] (ADIRU) to command changes of altitude. The flight crew overrode the ADIRU and manually returned to land the aircraft at Perth. The subsequent investigation led the US [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Aviation_Administration"]Federal Aviation Administration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] to issue emergency airworthiness directive 2005-18-51 on the fly-by-wire software.[77]
  • 8 March 2014 - [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_370"]Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame], a Boeing 777-200ER registered 9M-MRO carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew, went missing on a flight to [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beijing_Capital_International_Airport"]Beijing Capital International Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] from [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuala_Lumpur_International_Airport"]Kuala Lumpur International Airport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame].[78][79] Although the whereabouts of the plane remain unknown, officials from both Malaysia Airlines and the Malaysian government believed that the plane was lost in the Southern [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean"]Indian Ocean - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] and all 239 people on board perished.[80]
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines#.27Baby_ban.27_and_.27Child-free_zone.27
 
It boarded 13 million passengers in 2011, generating revenues of about $4.5 billion, according to the website. That revenue compares with a smaller airline in the U.S. such as JetBlue Airways for the same year.

88 aircraft

he airline considered the July 2012 launch of its A380 service from Kuala Lumpur and London Heathrow a major milestone in a history that began with its incorporation as Malayan Airways Limited (MAL) on Oct. 12, 1937.

The airline has won numerous awards from industry groups Skytrax UK and the World Travel Awards for the quality of its cabin crews, food and general excellence. World Travel Awards called it the best airline in Asia in 2013.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/03/07/malaysia-airlines-history/6191961/
 
CARIIS said:
There have been three accidents involving passenger fatalities on Malaysia Airlines, with a total of 134 confirmed fatalities:
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I wonder how that compares to other countries? While any air fatalities are horrible, three accidents with fatalities seems like pretty good stats considering how many flights are flown out of Malaysia on their country's aircraft.
 
ilovepierre said:
You'd think something like this (a plane going missing) would make me never want to fly again. But nope! I'm currently in the process of booking a vacation!
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:seeya: I am booking my mom a flight to come out in May.

IMO, air travel is a still safe mode of transportation.
 
SouthAussie said:
I feel for them too. They are damned by the media and by the Chinese families no matter what they do.

Surely it is up to the Chinese government to supply the Chinese with whatever information can be disclosed?

Like the Aussies look to our government, and presumably the other nationalities affected by this horrible event look to their government.

It is not the Malays fault that the Chinese government may not be sharing info with its people.

If I was the Malays, I would quit doing these briefings. They are not obliged to do so.
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Malaysian social media sites have bristled with anger over the Chinese calls for more information-sharing.

"China demanding the full truth and complete transparency about the plane crash? How about they come clean about Tiananmen Square first?" read one representative posting.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/03/28/under-siege-malaysians-hit-back-china

bbm
 
Aircraft Accident Fatalities Drop to Lowest Level in a DecadeBy Andrea RothmanJan 8, 2014 11:18 AM ET​




Aircraft accident fatalities fell to a 10-year low in 2013, with 224 deaths involving large commercial planes compared with 703 annually on average from 2003 to 2012.
Last year there were 17 aircraft accidents worldwide involving such planes, compared with a yearly average of 27, theEuropean Aviation Safety Agency said in a statement today. There were no airliner fatalities in EASA member states, which include European Union countries and Switzerland, Norway, Iceland and Lichtenstein, EASA said. ​


 
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