Becky Sharp
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Were you able to hear the show? Let me know. If not, or if others couldn't, I'll be happy to type up a (very unofficial) transcript.
Yes, please!!
I really Love Juan.. What a Man!! And... What a Lovely voice Tricia has! = )
TRANSCRIPT (MOSTLY) OF JM’S INTERVIEW WITH TRICIA ON TRUE CRIME RADIO, Part I, through minute 11-12 of 43.
Intro- Tricia reads from JM’s book, his description of how he thought of her- a bad waitress in a dive, giving awful service and “dreaming of a different life.”
T- Thrilled to have JM with us. Thanks for being here.
JM- Glad to be here.
T- (Gives brief overview of the murder of Travis), “a wonderful guy,” brutally murdered “because he didn’t give her what she wanted and because Jodi is just downright evil, IMO.”
T- JM put on a “hot fire of a prosecution” and “for the first time in Jodi’s life she really, really had to face the truth and the consequences for her actions.” We watched in amazement as JM quickly brought out the true Jodi Arias.
T- Mr. Martinez, I literally have hundreds of questions from people all over the world who watched you prosecute JA, but before I get into those I wanted to ask you-how are you doing? With everything that has happened, how are you doing?
JM. I’m doing well. I can say there’s been a lot of, an outpouring of affection, and it’s been a period of my life where, it just makes this whole thing seem worthwhile.
T- That’s good to hear. A lot of members and a lot of people have asked me and I wanted to ask you, because we feel like we know you and we were worried about you, and wanted to make sure you’re OK.
Before we get started with the questions, is there any misconception you’d like to talk about or clear up?
JM- No, not really. There’s been a lot of criticism about why I employed the tact I did in cross examination, some people thought perhaps I was disorganized, didn’t know where I was headed, the one is that I was just being strident for its own sake. Nothing could be further from the truth.
I knew she was someone who if you approached her directly she would give you many different answers to what was obvious to everybody. So, I’d just like to put that out there, that it wasn’t that I was unorganized, it wasn’t that I was just trying to be mean, it was just what I thought was the best approach under the circumstances.
T- Well, it worked, obviously, you caught her in so many lies. That’s interesting that people are criticizing you for that, that they said you were mean, to me it just looked like you were passionate, and you wanted to get the truth, and this woman wasn’t about to give it to you.
JM-That’s true, and I was sincere in my approach, it wasn’t that I was being, if we’re going to use the word mean, it wasn’t that I was being, in their word, mean for its own purpose. I was using that approach because that’s the approach that was the best in approaching someone who had a very difficult time in telling the truth and who was deceitful if it served her purposes. (4:26).
T- That’s the truth, and boy was she ever deceitful. OK, I’m going to get to some of the questions here, we have so many.
You’ve said that writing the book was more difficult than the trial. Why is that? It seems like the trial would be a nightmare and the book would be a piece of cake.
JM- No, the book was much more difficult, and the reason for that is there was so much material. We have to remember that the trial started in December 2012 then finished up in May 2013, and that there was a second trial that was involved. And before that there were years of investigation and interviews that took place, so condensing that and summarizing it in a way, or picking up the high points, was very difficult.
It could be that if I started emphasizing something at a certain point it could be that it would have taken away from the story. So that’s what made it difficult. I wanted to make it a story that people could follow, I wanted to make it a story people would be interested in.
A lot of people had actually seen what had happened in the courtroom, so I wanted to take them one step further, into what I was thinking and why I was doing certain things. I didn’t just want to bore the reader, if you will. (5:43)
T- Well, the book certainly isn’t boring, I can tell you that much. Mr. Martinez, we’ll be back in a moment with more questions, and coming up I’m going to talk with you about evidence that happened on June 4 that wasn’t presented at trial. We’re going to get to all the WS ers questions and more in just a little bit. Now, I want to tell you, this book, you should get it, Conviction, by JM, (T mentions Kindle, etc. where it can be bought).
T- And we’re back, at TRC. Talking with prosecutor and author, Juan Martinez. The book is a MUST if you’re even remotely interested in the JA trial, because it really does open up the curtain and show you the behind the scenes, a lot of stuff that was going on we had no idea about, and it really may change your mind about a lot of things.
We spoke a moment ago to Mr.M about people accusing him of being mean, and I want to go back to that for just a moment, if I may, Mr.M.
JM- Sure.
T-I remember watching that and thinking, and maybe even said, I wonder if him being mean like that is going to backfire on the jury. Now, did anyone raise that concern with you in the office, did you have to say, I mean, what you did was right, it worked, but did any one cause you grief for that at all?
JM- No. The way that I prosecute cases is that I do them by myself, I don’t have co-counsel, so any decisions that are made are just mine alone, and we are entrusted with those cases in this office, and there really isn’t anybody that is sort of looking over your shoulder, and saying, perhaps you should do it this way or you should do it that way.
Of course, if you had co-counsel you could bounce ideas off them, but in this case the responsibility was mine, and whether the strategy succeeded or proved unsuccessful, that would be something that I’d have to deal with, so, and, I was in the best position of anyone, I think, to try to see what was going on with her, and how she sort of, um, just twisted the truth. If there was any answer that was obvious, she would avoid it, even as to things that didn’t matter, so I decided the best way to do it was to expose her, and if I had to ask her YES or NO, then, so be it.
T- There you go. And again, if you read Mr.M’s book you’ll get the insight that you didn’t have in the beginning or during the trial. (9:23).
T- Another question from one of our listeners and WS members, and trust me, Mr.M, everyone cares about you and this is one of those questions.
There were some hurtful comments or criticisms said about you by the media. Did that bother you, was there something that was really hurtful, that you know, you just wanted to throttle the person who said it?
JM- (laughs) Well, I can’t really sort of manage my life by what the media may say and it may be hurtful. It gets to the point where there were some statements about how tall I was. In other words, they said I was short, which is true. They also talked about my voice, everyone is hearing it tonight, and that’s the voice I was given, and that’s the voice I’ve always had, and there was criticism of that. The criticism was so profound at some point that it seemed unfair.
But I stepped back and I decided that if someone took the time to criticize those things, then clearly I must be doing a good job, or else they would have criticized that. Criticism is one thing, but once they started going after you personally like that, then it appears to me they don’t have anything left to say, other than to make it a very personal, sort of ad homonym kind of attack.
T-Exactly, they can’t go after the big stuff you’re doing and accomplishing, so they go after something they hope will get to you. I hear you there. (10:52).
T- Again, I have a zillion questions from people. One, this is very interesting to me, Nurmi said he was surprised that you didn’t use recorded tapes in trial. Now apparently J’s recorded phone calls in jail with her mother and others, it made her, she came across as nasty and awful and horrible in those recorded phone calls. But you didn’t use them, um, when you were trying to get the DP. Was there a strategy behind that, because it seems like nasty phone calls would be a great thing to use.
JM- Well, I don’t take advice from, um, Mr. Nurmi. Never have, never will. (I had no problem?) in regards to that. So, that’s his opinion, and I’ll only remind people that he’s the individual, the defense counsel, where his client was convicted of first degree murder.
T- There you go. (11:42).
Yes Hope, Thank you. The help you gave me was invaluable. It's not easy typing transcripts so thank you for taking the time so others can enjoy the interview.Thank you sooo much for doing this Hope, and all the other time you have donated to WS, transcribing texts, etc. You are such a generous person (and smart too :heart.
Were you able to hear the show? Let me know. If not, or if others couldn't, I'll be happy to type up a (very unofficial) transcript.
Well, it's giving me a good excuse to spend more quality time with JM.
Seriously, though, what a great reply to the coded magazine question!! JM gave more (fascinating) detail in this interview than he has ever given, anywhere else.
What evidence was considered too prejudicial to be admitted, and thus was never allowed into trial, and why? (29:36).
Well? WELL???
That's the one and only thing I've ever really, really wanted to know since her sentencing. Even more than any of the sealed stuff. And the answer is...??? Anyone? Anyone at all? Bueller? Bueller?
That is an amazing work of transcription, Hope. Thanks button is not enough for all this.
I'm down to the last 7 minutes of interview, have covered the prejudicial question , am on when she began planning to murder Travis. Will post part 4 in about an hour.