WalkingCircles
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Thanks for bumping!I'd like to throw out the possibility that this doe is Canadian. My friends and I (teens at the time) wore those bracelets but not out of religious affiliation, just as a fashion trend. I wish there was a brand available for the winter-themed sweater, as it reminds me of items sold at Northern Reflections - a store at the mall geared towards older ladies, but also had kids stuff sometimes, and is nowadays popular to thrift. They sold a lot of bird/nature/seasonal graphic pullovers.
Additionally, the New York tote bag gives off tourist vibes, and the black pants look like the flared Lululemon leggings that were super popular around the time too. The nail polish art makes me think she's on the younger side as well.
Maybe I missed it, but is there proof that she committed suicide vs. fell/was pushed onto the tracks?
I will do my best to look at Canadian MP's around this time.
I've been looking into this one for a long time. The rosary/jewelry, while inexpensive, has been difficult to pinpoint. It seems that multiple groups of people wore them at the time, be it for religious or fashion reasons. I've had some folks reach out as well saying that with the release of the Twilight films, the bracelets were sometimes worn because of that.
The combination of the rosary and the bracelet may point to more of a religious affiliation, but, of course, no reason to rule anything out at this juncture.
The reports I have examined from law enforcement haven't noted specific brands of clothing, as most labels were worn. I can check to be sure, but, offhand, I remember Playtex underwear, Adidas sneakers, and one of the shirts was from GAP. That was all as far as names went.
The sweater was one I tracked down to a brand called Morning Sun. They seemed to be sold in K-Mart and the like at that time, but it's entirely possible they were purchased secondhand as well.
Based on the autopsy and incident reports, there was no evidence suggesting how she ended up on the tracks, be it intentional or otherwise. The only thing that even suggests one way or the other was that the engineer stated he saw "white debris" on the tracks, which sounds like he was seeing the shirt she had tied around her waist, but, again, not definitive either way. I can go back and get the exact wording, but that was the basis of it.
The New York bag, area maps (never specified as to which areas), tan on the extremities, and the Islander newspaper scraps (points to a few miles to the south, Long Beach Island), makes me think she have been down the shore there for work. Again, that's just speculation.
This case is so prime for genetic genealogy. I pray it goes that way. NJ forensic anthropology is clearly interested — hers is among the longest exclusion list I’ve seen.
We were trying to work on this with NJ Transit police, but the response we had gotten was that DNA had been submitted, probably to CODIS, so it's a matter of family members or anyone else submitting DNA and it matching. Obviously, this isn't exactly the route we were hoping for, so we've been trying to stay in contact to open up the possibility of the DNA Doe Network or some of the other DNA initiatives to help clear some of these cases. I do think it may be somewhat jurisdictional, as multiple agencies responded to the scene.
I doubt this was a suicide. She had no pants on. It looks more like she was assaulted and left unconscious on the train tracks.
Very hard to say. The autopsy did not make any mention of the possibility, though, of course, the autopsy is going to focus on the observable facts, nor were there any notes of injuries that would suggest sexual assault. Of course, given the fact this was a train collision, it is not easy to determine if any injuries or bruising occurred prior to death. It is possible that, as she was near a body of water, that the pants had become damp and she had tied a shirt around her waist as a makeshift skirt, especially if the temperature were a bit chillier in the evening and the cold won't be kind with damp clothing.
Unfortunately, there are so many ways to speculate in this instance.