In one of the court documents from the custody case, it says that they used to have LE there at the child exchange time for safety reasons, and that this was by VB's request. HOWEVER, it also says that they stopped doing that, despite VB continuing to request this, because the cops decided it was UNNECESSARY! So they thought she was just saying they needed to be there, probably to make TA and/or Wrangler look bad, when really she was at no risk from them, so no need for LE to come anymore. And this is documented, on record, of them saying this, so I hope this comes up later.why wasn't there a neutral place like the police station used for drop-off and pick-up of the children??
That's a very good question. When the court order was put in place, the lawyers should have discussed the hand-over location for the children. Either Veronica's lawyer failed to ensure that it was a public place, or Tifany and Wrangler's lawyer, and the Judge, decided that an abandoned building was good enough.One of the things that confuses me about the visitation hand-off is why wasn't there a neutral place like the police station used for drop-off and pick-up of the children?? Has this been discussed? This relationship between TA and VB sounds very acrimonious. You'd think that this type of exchange would be ordered by the court to ensure that everything went smoothly.
JMO.
I'm guessing that Cole Twombly's flat bed truck was used to transport the skid steer loader to the burial location, and then back to Twombly's cattle ranch. If so, and to be consistent with Tifany's claim that Veronica cancelled the visit, then the plan was to remove Veronica's car from Hwy 95 and Road L. Why bring a flat bed truck to a murder scene where the vehicle is evidence?Reference a possible type of flatbed truck up thread (I.e. post #1003 in three 3 and the antecedent message post #960 in thread #3) - link below:
I was attempting to clarify - that absent pictures of the vehicle - one cannot be certain, although it might be such as this image here. Typically referred to as a roll-back truck TMK, or flat bed ‘tow’ truck. I was not referring to a pick up truck or pick up flat bed, rather something larger. And which could be used to haul another vehicle or a skid-steer.
It is not certain what type of vehicle the witness was referring to, but IIRC it was only indicated as a ‘flatbed truck’. MOO
Post in thread 'OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #3 *Arrests*'
OK - OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #3 *Arrests*
Wow. Can LE be sued for negligence? If so, I can see both victims' families suing. This is such a tragedy for the families and the children. I guess that they will also sue all of the murderers, too.In one of the court documents from the custody case, it says that they used to have LE there at the child exchange time for safety reasons, and that this was by VB's request. HOWEVER, it also says that they stopped doing that, despite VB continuing to request this, because the cops decided it was UNNECESSARY! So they thought she was just saying they needed to be there, probably to make TA and/or Wrangler look bad, when really she was at no risk from them, so no need for LE to come anymore. And this is documented, on record, of them saying this, so I hope this comes up later.
I'm guessing that Cole Twombly's flat bed truck was used to transport the skid steer loader to the burial location, and then back to Twombly's cattle ranch. If so, and to be consistent with Tifany's claim that Veronica cancelled the visit, then the plan was to remove Veronica's car from Hwy 95 and Road L. Why bring a flat bed truck to a murder scene where the vehicle is evidence?