Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #5 *Arrests*

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Article which links the motion filed 4/16/24 to hold TA without bail

APR 19, 2024
www.newschannel10.com

Court Documents: Grandmother admits to role in death of Kansas women

New court documents obtained by NewsChannel 10 say one of the suspects in the murders of two Kansas women in Texas County admitted to her role in the killings.
www.newschannel10.com www.newschannel10.com
According to the motion to hold Tifany Adams without bail, “after arrest this defendant, Tifany Adams, did provide a recorded statement to law enforcement indicating her responsibility for the death of the deceased.”

The documents state that Adams is a continuing threat to society due to evidence that shows she and co-conspirators engaged in a plot to kidnap and murder Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley in order to prevent Butler gaining custody or unsupervised visitation of her children.

MOTION TO HOLD DEFENDANT WITHOUT BAIL
 
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PommyMommy said:
Article which links the motion filed 4/16/24

APR 19, 2024
www.newschannel10.com

Court Documents: Grandmother admits to role in death of Kansas women

New court documents obtained by NewsChannel 10 say one of the suspects in the murders of two Kansas women in Texas County admitted to her role in the killings.
www.newschannel10.com www.newschannel10.com
According to the motion to hold Tifany Adams without bail, “after arrest this defendant, Tifany Adams, did provide a recorded statement to law enforcement indicating her responsibility for the death of the deceased.”

The documents state that Adams is a continuing threat to society due to evidence that shows she and co-conspirators engaged in a plot to kidnap and murder Veronica Butler and Jilian Kelley in order to prevent Butler gaining custody or unsupervised visitation of her children.

MOTION TO HOLD DEFENDANT WITHOUT BAIL
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That post says something without saying anything.
 
Bringing over Error505's post from the previous thread:

"Tifany’s attorney who handled the custody case regarding the grchildren was Stephen Jones, infamous for having represented Timothy McVeigh, OKC bomber. What chance does a young country girl, with limited finances, stand when it comes to fighting a custody battle with an attorney of his notoriety? Very slim chances of prevailing, and expensive even pursuing. I’ve got to really hand it to that young mom, she tried hard and didn’t give up. I’m sure TA thought she would give up! Here’s an interview Chris Cuomo did with Stephen Jones on Wednesday of this week."

I was browsing HBO last night and a new documentary about the OKC bombing was suggested to me that I ended up watching. It's "An American Bombing: The Road to April 19th."

TA's custody attorney, Stephen Jones, was interviewed at length about McVeigh. The documentary covered the roots of McVeigh's beliefs and his possible connection to a rural Arkansas extremist group. Lots of parallels between the beliefs and motivations of those featured in the documentary and God's Misfits, IMO. If you have HBO/Hulu, I highly recommend it.

Here's the trailer on YouTube:
 
I haven't had a nightmare about a case for a long time. This is just so terrifying, knowing evil can walk among us with a kind smile on its face and we don't even know or suspect. This is true evil. I saw those innocent women and mothers getting blocked in and no way out but to get executed by a bunch of lunatics horror movie style. And these kind of people could be anywhere. My thoughts go out to the locals and neighbors who believed these were good people. Who do you trust anymore?
 
Someone mentioned in a recent post (in the previous thread) that they felt the misfits were very motivated by $$$$ rather than religion. It’s interesting that on his Facebook profile CT’s favourite quote is “Money isn’t everything, but it ranks rite (sic) up there with oxygen.” He strikes me as crafty, smug and cold.
 
In the previous thread CuriousCricket wrote :
"...Am I the only one who thinks it's an oxymoron that the movement claims the law has no jurisdiction over them, yet they spend the money and time to file papers in the "legal" system . . . completely nuts -- in my opinion."


Logic is clearly not a requirement for those in the Misfits. While they are claiming to be against the government they are not against taking money from said government. A quick look at the farm subsidies received by TC, TA & Cole and their various entities show that each of them has received many thousands of dollars from the government through various programs

farm.ewg.org

EWG's Farm Subsidy Database

EWG's Farm Subsidy Database put the issue on the map and is driving reform. Just ten percent of America's largest and richest farms collect almost three-fourths of federal farm subsidies; cash payments that often harm the environment.
farm.ewg.org farm.ewg.org




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AliceInPain said:
I haven't had a nightmare about a case for a long time. This is just so terrifying, knowing evil can walk among us with a kind smile on its face and we don't even know or suspect. This is true evil. I saw those innocent women and mothers getting blocked in and no way out but to get executed by a bunch of lunatics horror movie style. And these kind of people could be anywhere. My thoughts go out to the locals and neighbors who believed these were good people. Who do you trust anymore?
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Ita.
Esp. the bolded.
So senseless, and all over a reason that didn't have to be.
Neither of the victims hurt anyone.
Pointless.
Omo.
 
Rixey said:
In the previous thread CuriousCricket wrote :
"...Am I the only one who thinks it's an oxymoron that the movement claims the law has no jurisdiction over them, yet they spend the money and time to file papers in the "legal" system . . . completely nuts -- in my opinion."


Logic is clearly not a requirement for those in the Misfits. While they are claiming to be against the government they are not against taking money from said government. A quick look at the farm subsidies received by TC, TA & Cole and their various entities show that each of them has received many thousands of dollars from the government through various programs

farm.ewg.org

EWG's Farm Subsidy Database

EWG's Farm Subsidy Database put the issue on the map and is driving reform. Just ten percent of America's largest and richest farms collect almost three-fourths of federal farm subsidies; cash payments that often harm the environment.
farm.ewg.org farm.ewg.org




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God, I have been WAITING for someone else to bring this up! They don't like the government but they are sure okay taking those subsidies from them. I know some people in California involved in agriculture and have seen and heard some things about these subsidies.
 
charmingbetsy said:
Bringing over Error505's post from the previous thread:

"Tifany’s attorney who handled the custody case regarding the grchildren was Stephen Jones, infamous for having represented Timothy McVeigh, OKC bomber. What chance does a young country girl, with limited finances, stand when it comes to fighting a custody battle with an attorney of his notoriety? Very slim chances of prevailing, and expensive even pursuing. I’ve got to really hand it to that young mom, she tried hard and didn’t give up. I’m sure TA thought she would give up! Here’s an interview Chris Cuomo did with Stephen Jones on Wednesday of this week."

I was browsing HBO last night and a new documentary about the OKC bombing was suggested to me that I ended up watching. It's "An American Bombing: The Road to April 19th."

TA's custody attorney, Stephen Jones, was interviewed at length about McVeigh. The documentary covered the roots of McVeigh's beliefs and his possible connection to a rural Arkansas extremist group. Lots of parallels between the beliefs and motivations of those featured in the documentary and God's Misfits, IMO. If you have HBO/Hulu, I highly recommend it.

Here's the trailer on YouTube:
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Thanks for this, too.

This is kind of an eye-opener. TA was certainly dead serious about this child custody stuff, willing to spend money on a very famous defense lawyer in Oklahoma for a pretty low-level child custody case.
 
Rixey said:
In the previous thread CuriousCricket wrote :
"...Am I the only one who thinks it's an oxymoron that the movement claims the law has no jurisdiction over them, yet they spend the money and time to file papers in the "legal" system . . . completely nuts -- in my opinion."


Logic is clearly not a requirement for those in the Misfits. While they are claiming to be against the government they are not against taking money from said government. A quick look at the farm subsidies received by TC, TA & Cole and their various entities show that each of them has received many thousands of dollars from the government through various programs

farm.ewg.org

EWG's Farm Subsidy Database

EWG's Farm Subsidy Database put the issue on the map and is driving reform. Just ten percent of America's largest and richest farms collect almost three-fourths of federal farm subsidies; cash payments that often harm the environment.
farm.ewg.org farm.ewg.org




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You mean the killer crew are hypocrites?! Gee, I am gobsmacked. <Not!>

They fit the same mold of hateful, selfish, greedy, entitled people who will go to any length to get and do what they want. They will lie, cheat, threaten, steal, and kill and use anything they can twist to their purposes. Truly the scum of the Earth (and that's insulting scum).

MOO.
 
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