I named this file 'spitball', but since we don't have a thread for that (nor do we need one) I'm posting these notes from my hard drive here in the 'brainstorming' one. Hope none of you storming brains minds...
It's sort of a running list of questions I've had about Lindsey - and a few answers, where I found them - since she first disappeared.
Maybe something here will spark a clue for someone else; I've hit the wall.
I'm also increasingly curious about the idea that Lindsey might have somehow ended up in a culvert or drain somewhere, as Corallaroc and others are discussing elsewhere in this forum.
Jody King disappeared without a trace after a minor car accident. Witnesses saw Jody exit the wreck and run into the woods, but despite several intense searches by LE, locals and expert search teams that included tracking and cadaver dogs, his body wasn't found until months later. He had gotten himself somehow wedged in a drainpipe on private property, very close to where he was last seen, and died of exposure. I'll bring more specific info here later, but I have to do some errands now. Meanwhile, there's a thread for Jody King, missing from CT, in the Missing/Located forum here that you might want to check out. Very sad.
I wonder all the time if it isn't that simple, and that tragic, for Lindsey.
She was wearing a bathing suit.
I just can't get past that one thing.
All thoughts are welcome on anything here!
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Does LB's mom MB have a significant other in McC? Or another ex? Who is her BFF/bf boyfriend? Where was he?
Did KK take a LDT? When? Or, why?
Where was the pool party? Who supervised? What time did LB leave? Who are the other kids LB was seen renting videos with? (I've assumed these were movies; were they games, instead? Think RPGs: Magic, The Gathering, D&Dragons/local groups? teens) When was LB's dinner? Where? When did the KK child hook up with LB, and what did she do while LB showered and changed clothes? Would I let my kid go back out, after a pool party and running around downtown, after a shower, in clean clothes, at 9-something, without an adult? With wet hair? On a broken bike, arguing brother in tow?
LE says someone LB knows took her.
Who would be around for that, during summer afternoons and evenings, regularly enough to know the kids/ that kids know? Think summer night, unsupervised kids, bikes: creeks, woods, town...where's the hangout? Does she like boys? Hannah M? Jonas Bros? What music? Loves Twilight!, reads Harry Potter. Friday night, small town. Known for: shoplifting, being "up to something" (drunk Mark), is "10 going on 16", has myspace x2, single parent/ recent divorce/seperation from dad/conflict with brother/ trouble with other girls (resolved?)/poor attendance/ new school (2nd in 2 years). Normal tween stuff, or real issues being outpictured? Was LB threatened? (MS comment re: "something bad")
Devoted to her German Shepherd; fiercely loyal and protective dogs. Any strange behavior from the dog with any of Lindsey's friends, or MB's friends? Where was she, and why didn't she go with the kids?? Why didn't the dog figure in this?
Woods, forests, trees everywhere. Who are the rebel teens? Who are the 'mean girls'? Where are the spots kids go for spin-the-bottle, cigs?
What was happening at Beerbower park? Did LB play sports? Is there a summer day-camp, maybe summer Bibleschool? Baseball, adult softball? Who are local coaches?
Seen by 2 wits (who are these?) between home and KK's; KK very chatty online. Did she disappear from KK's? Check out KK's strange brother/ other relatives; her version of events keep(s) changing. Truth doesn't change: 1. LB was escorted 1/2way by an unknown child 2) LB was escorted 1/2way by KK's child 3)KK's child watched LB to the end of the street 4) KK's child watched LB "until the trees" (where is this exact location, where trees would obscure KK's view of Lindsey's progress?); 5) 9:15/ 9:30/ between 9 and 10, 9:30 = versions of timeline (all KK's?). What else did KK's kid notice/ see?
Did LB ever leave KKs? Did LB even get to KK's?
When did JB arrive at home? What was his demeanor? When is bedtime for the Baum kids? And where the hell is daddy?
Where are Mom B's parents/sibs/cousins? Where are Sr. Baums? Why did MB and kids come to WA from TN(?)? Check for local ties. Problems in TN? Angry neighbors? Rumors that MB is bipolar; is this significant? What examples of manic episodes - these must exist for that dx? Is she on meds? Antipsychotics? Is she rx compliant?
Is there family counseling/intervention/support for MB's dx/ JB's LD?
IS JB SPED?
LB cell wasn't charged, so left it at home when she needed it most of all. KK's phone was also dead, which meant MB didn't really worry about LB being late until (what time did MB and KK finally speak? ?). Is it strange, that both phones were ooo exactly when they were needed most? Or, normal (like mine).
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Soulscape says the perp is someone who chastised LB earlier in the day. Tuba stresses an authority. Astrology also points to someone who is a caretaker of land or property, like a landlord or real estate agent, or maybe a gardener...aLSO, an event published prior to Lindsey's disapperance is key. This could be a yard sale ad, a lost dog flyer, a house for sale sign, promo for the Bear Festival, etc...could also refer to photos of LB (on internet?)
Tuba's chart says someone who was present at the search center last friday at 9:15 am, knows where Lindsey is.
*Tricia said:
Remember, in the press release it says if you want to help organize donations please call the Laura Recovery Center first and they can tell you what is needed. Their number is 866-898-5723.
*cyberswept posted on 8/28/2009 @11:30pm:
From the story on q13fox.com
*Individuals who would like to participate in the search for Lindsey should check in at the McCleary Community Center between the hours of 9 am and 4:30 pm on Friday, August 28th. Volunteers must be 18 years of age or older and bring photo identification. "Dress appropriately for the weather, wear long pants and sturdy, covered toe shoes. We need people who can do foot searches as well as individuals who are willing to work in the search center explained Dennis. Volunteers are not required to attend the community meeting. In addition, we are looking for donations of bottled water, office supplies and the use of a copier."
>Is this "the" search center?
If so, does that mean it is "owned" by the City of McCleary? Who is the landlord of this property? Who is Dennis?
>see City of Mc Chamber page:
Todd Baun, Cityof McCleary Facilities Manager
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*konamocha posted 8/31/09 at 6:50pm, in LB' Forensic Astrology thread (page 14):
>>>I wanted to let you know that there are a lot of the kids that attend school in Elma which starts tomorrow Sept. 1. This is because of conflicts at the McCleary school.<<<
I found the following posts on trulia.com:
http://www.trulia.com/schools/WA-Mccleary/Mccleary_Elementary_School/
*This school is limited in its learning. The Principle and Vice principle are unable to handle any type of situation and do not inform parents right away if there is a situation. Our child now goes to a different school and is much happier and the teachers give him praise on his report cards. That never happend in McCleary which does have some good teachers but some don't care as well, either.
Posted by a parent on 05/11/09
*Most of the staff are great people. The major problem at this school is the principal. Not only is the treatment of the children lopsided as to who he likes or doesn't like but also his treatment of the staff is less than desireable. If your oppinion doesnt reflect his it is easy to get on his 'bad side'. I have personal experience with Mr. Bolander not liking my child. I am just thankful that Elma is only 7 miles away.
Posted by a parent on 01/29/09
*This school has a excellent office staff. The ladies are very helpful and friendly. They really seem to care about each child and parent. I wouldn't send my child to any other school!
Posted by a parent on 09/11/07
*This school is a wonderful. The math program is one of the best it takes a new look in to investigating the math problem. The teachers really do care about the students! The class size is great usually no more than 19 in a class its great!
Posted by a student on 10/12/06
*McCleary school is a fine local K-8 school. Teachers are very friendly and responsive, but need a better discipline policy in the classroom. Math programs need to gear more towards learning fundamentals and less toward passing the WASL test. A return to basics in math and reading would help. Would eliminate having too many math concepts taught in same week. Also students should be taught cursive handwritin despite computer use for writing. Historical documents and letters are in cursive, and anyone should be able to read them. For a small local school, McCleary is very nice. Principal is very open to discussions. Most staff also very receptive to suggestions.
Posted by a parent on 09/04/06
*McCleary overall is a pretty good school. The principal could use some guidance on handling situations and some of the teachers need to learn about the effects on students by students with disabilities.
Posted by a parent on 05/08/06
**notes from affidavit for SW, Sept.25, 2009
THe officer swears on 9/25/09 that " An extensive search was conducted over the next weeks by law enforcement, search and rescue volunteers, canine teams, and citizens.
Baum could not be located nor has any evidence been located."
No evidence located as of 9/25/09!!!
City Council 6/8/2009 notes: What is "Tami Quimby case?"
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Note: Soulscape and Tuba are two of our forensic astrologers; their ideas come from the many excellent charts they've done for Lindsey's case.