TX - Hailey Dunn, 13, Colorado City, 27 Dec 2010 - #35

[belimom]

Salem,

I think its because this spokesperson does not seem to be very professional in both his words and actions (before the PC laughing and joking with the press, pushing a local Mexican Restaurant, asking who's buying, commenting about a particular reporter's boots), and then when he has spoke - he contradicts previous statements he has already made. When he does contradict himself - he gives no reason for why white is now black - nor does he even acknowledge that he is contradicting one of his own previous statements.

I think its that this is just not the level of professionalism that we usually see in these cases with the PIO and LE that do press releases and press conferences.

I agree. And now I can't help but filter everything he says from the opinion I formed of him at the presser. I'm from a small town and I believe CCity is using whoever they deemed the best candidate for the job, however. I just think he hasn't had much experience with so much media, etc.

 

[Artisana]

He went away because she asked him to stay away until this was resolved.

And I just thought of another possible scenario... IF SHAWN WAS INNOCENT... Suppose Shawn initially figured Hailey had just run away to CDs or DBs or CJs, or gone somewhere with friends and that she'd be back in a couple days and it would all be okay. But in the meantime, he had this AWESOME opportunity to be on television...

Yes, he very well could be innocent, and just have the bad luck of going to work for 10 minutes long enough to get "fired", so as to have a vacation, and do this on the worst day possible--and delete things off his cell phone in front of the cops because maybe he has another girlfriend, etc.--it is possible.

I hope he's not guilty, if Hailey has come to a bad end, because Billie doesn't need the guilt, in addition to losing her daughter.

 

[passionflower]

Where is Hailey??
Someone knows, someone!
JMOO

 

[JenRen]

I'm gonna address both{as you'll see one answer easily leads into answering the other as well}.. It's asked ^ what was the reason Hailey suddenly began sleeping in her room.. According to Billie it was becasue of The Flat Screen TV that Hailey had gotten put in her room for Christmas.. Well as has been customary lately as far as Billie's inconsistencies this too seems to fall in that category as well.. You have Billie saying Hailey had been sleeping in her room for the past week due to the new Tv she recived on Christmas..

RS&BBM

Now that my kids are older, and no longer experience the "Santa" part of Christmas.....I give them the majority of their gifts the day they start Christmas vacation. This gives them plenty of time to enjoy their gifts before school starts back up.

Billie's kids are basically the same age as mine, I could see her doing this. With that, saying she's had her tv that she got for Christmas for a week would make a lot of sense to me.

 

[katydid23]

He went away because she asked him to stay away until this was resolved.

And I just thought of another possible scenario... IF SHAWN WAS INNOCENT... Suppose Shawn initially figured Hailey had just run away to CDs or DBs or CJs, or gone somewhere with friends and that she'd be back in a couple days and it would all be okay. But in the meantime, he had this AWESOME opportunity to be on television...

Perhaps. And if so, the jokes on him.
:maddening:

 

[SubtleGrace]

Well, let's think about this. Billie thinks Shawn is retarded. We learned this from the 911 calls. She thinks she is smarter than him. She is on television every night spouting lies. She thinks she is smarter than us. What if...

Billie talked Shawn into something. Just a few days of tv reporters and it will be over, she tells him. He enjoys the limelight, at first. Then suspicion is thrown on him. He may not be a genius but he is smart enough to get a lawyer and shut up. Billie lies on national tv to keep the spotlight off Shawn, because she knows he could reveal her secret.

Or maybe not.

 

[LisaB]

IMO, Appropriate as in standard operating procedure for cases like this. IDK?

THANKFULLY there aren't a lot of cases quite like this one.

 

[bdawk20]

I understand Hailey sleeping on the couch{especially with her having no TV in her room}and tho Personally I may not agree with it being an appropriate place for a child to sleep every night{with emphasis on every because I think we all agree that it is ok every once in a while for whatever reason} on the living room couch rather than the privacy of her room..especially when considering her age and that there was a new non-family member young adult male living in the house..The latter would be the main and most important reason that I would feel even stronger about her having slept in the privacy of her bedroom...

So I believe that is what has been implied as the reason for Hailey sleeping on couch every night{no TV in bedroom}..Again last night on NG Billie put emphasis on the fact that Hailey had only been sleeping in her room for the past week{and I'm going to give BD the full benefit of the doubt that she speaking of the week leading up to her disappearance..NOT literally these past 7days}.. also asked in the ^above post is what was th ereason for Hailey suddenly to start sleeping in her own bedroom as well as commenting on what a huge coincidence it would be for Hailey to have gone missing after having only been sleeping in her bedroom for a week...

I'm gonna address both{as you'll see one answer easily leads into answering the other as well}.. It's asked ^ what was the reason Hailey suddenly began sleeping in her room.. According to Billie it was becasue of The Flat Screen TV that Hailey had gotten put in her room for Christmas.. Well as has been customary lately as far as Billie's inconsistencies this too seems to fall in that category as well.. You have Billie saying Hailey had been sleeping in her room for the past week due to the new Tv she recived on Christmas..

But we know for a fact that Hailey spent the night with dad on Christmas day and then spent part of the next day{26th} at dad's and most likely that evening went back to mom's on Sunday the 26th.. And as we know we have our last credible sighting of Hailey by DD at 9pm that night in the living room..playing his Xbox..when he left to go spend the night at a friends house..Hailey supposedly "disappeared" the very next day{27th}..so that actually means that Hailey ONLY SPENT ONE..SINGLE..SOLITARY NIGHT sleeping in her bedroom with her new TV.. {IMO big difference in she'd been sleeping in her room the past week and the truth actually be at the most IF it truly ever happened it would have been that Hailey spent 1 single night sleeping in her bed...

Which as I said directly leads into the second comment in the post ^above concerning the huge coincidence it would be that she went missing in that first week of sleeping in her bedroom.. Now that we know the truth is that it was ONLY 1 SINGLE NIGHT look AT HOW HUGE OF A "COINCIDENCE" THAT THE ONE NIGHT THAT HAILEY CHOSE TO SLEEP IN HER BEDROOM SHE "DISAPPEARS" SOME TIME WITHIN THAT 24HR PERIOD OF TIME...

I just briefly wanted to mention one other issue that falls directly in this exact category as well..and that is the red hoop earrings.. Billie also stated that Hailey had been religiously wearing those red hoop earrings wanting to "stretch" her lobes for the past week{again believeing that she meant the 7days leading up to Hailey disappearing}.. Again we have the same amount of inconsistency as we do above with the "TV/sleep in bedroom issue"..Billies stating a week when the reality and truth is that Hailey received these red hoop earrings..along with the TV on Christmas.. and we know she spent Christmas night at dads{i.e. IMO why we find 1 of the red hoops in Clint's home in the process of their having to move out}..and thenpart of the next day{26th} with dad{video sightings in retail stores to prove this}and returned home to mom's at some point before 9pm when our last credible sighting of Hailey took place by DD..

Hailey disappeared somewhere in those next 24 hrs.. That leaves Hailey wearing the new red hoops AT THE VERY MOST a day and a half..tho we have Clint's gf now state that actually Hailey took them out when spending the night of the 25th at dads..She said when she went to retrieve them to put them up from the couch where Hailey had taken them out that gf could only find one of the hoops... IMO this makes sense that when moving from that residence that the other red hoop is found in that same living room..IMO accounting now for both of the red hoops..

Billie is the one who stated that Hailey would have had these on only after having searched Hailey's room and them not being there assuming that Hailey still had them in..again from "assuming" that Hailey wore them home from dad's.. we now know that they were not worn home from dad's as one was "missing"..but since has been found as well{unless someone wants to assume that Hailey just wore one red hoop while the other was lost at dads??..IMO not very plausible}

My neice has "gauges" in her ears to stretch the holes, and my understanding is that you do not take each size out for at least 2 weeks, or until the initial holes are healed. I'm thinking if Hailey was interested in stretching the peircings in her ears, she would know not to take the earrings out, and wouldn't have. jmo....

 

[winterrose]

Well, let's think about this. Billie thinks Shawn is retarded. We learned this from the 911 calls. She thinks she is smarter than him. She is on television every night spouting lies. She thinks she is smarter than us. What if...

Billie talked Shawn into something. Just a few days of tv reporters and it will be over, she tells him. He enjoys the limelight, at first. Then suspicion is thrown on him. He may not be a genius but he is smart enough to get a lawyer and shut up. Billie lies on national tv to keep the spotlight off Shawn, because she knows he could reveal her secret.

Or maybe not.

If this was the story and it's a roleplaying crimestory gone completely out of control,he really screwed up with cellphone pings and leaving work like that.So I don't think he's too bright,a bag wasn't packed with any of her things she would have taken,etc.

 

[Quiche]

Imo, Kempfer deemed the other search appropriate because the dogs were already there-- may as well use'm. :twocents:

 

[Wise Old Owl]

O/T - update.

I'm sitting here - local news on - tears just streaming. They are showing the procession of LE escorting the female officer that was killed this morning from the hospital to the medical examiner's office. There are close to 75 motorcycles and many more walking behind the EMT truck. She had one child. The other officer that was killed had 3 children.

I do realize that this case is happening in a small town. I live in a county with over a million people in it. I was born and raised here. Always loved my city - but I have grown to hate it.

I plan on moving to a small town a few counties north here. I love the atmosphere and the people. It seems you are not a number there - you have a name and people know you.

Everyday - make sure you tell your family you love them, you may not have tomorrow.

 

[TxLady2]

I have read every single story on the crime library site. My youngest daughter has the same interest.

Yes, and here we sit on WS, fascinated with crime!

Seriously... has anybody bothered to look through the theory threads on some of these cases?!! I can't even read through them sometimes because a few of them are really wild! In great detail... Sick stuff! I've been truly shocked a few times with the wild imaginations that WS members have!
(Kidding... sort of.)

 

[CajunCares]

I really wish they would luminol BD house just to easy the mind of so many. Think about sweet Zarhas case LE had no clue just by looking around that house.

 

[winterrose]

Oh it's so sad,four children without one of thier parents in one day.Yesterday an officer was sitting in his car and someone came up and shot him in the chest.He had a vest,I'm not sure how he is now. There is a spirit of hatred against LE all over the country and it's scary.

 

[Aya]

I have a question. Did SA say:

I love Hailey with all my heart...
or
I Loved Hailey with all my heart...

 

[yllek]

I have a question. Did SA say:

I love Hailey with all my heart...
or
I Loved Hailey with all my heart...

He used present tense, "love"

 

[LisaB]

Well, let's think about this. Billie thinks Shawn is retarded. We learned this from the 911 calls. She thinks she is smarter than him.

She was just trying to say something insulting about him. Maybe she doesn't use bad language as an example for her kids and uses words like "idiot" "simpleminded" and "*advertiser censored*" instead? We've seen her use all three but never "bad words".

Who knows if she literally thinks she is smarter, if she thinks someone is exhibiting stupid behavior, she calls them something reflective of that, though not really "appropriate" (a nod to Kampfer).

 

[Melanie]

Yeah, "ME" not "US"--just because Hailey didn't like him at first (probably because she could feel that his interest in her was not good), it doesn't mean that he didn't wear her down and win her over after a while--if he's charismatic enough to have Billie all ga-ga over him, what would stop Hailey from falling for him if he was working on her--

Here's the statement:

"I love her with all my heart and I believe she loves me with all her heart," he said on Jan. 4. "As far as me, Hailey, Billie and David, we get along fine. I would never do anything with that little girl. I love her with all my heart."


You can watch the actual video here:

http://bigcountryhomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=331907&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

It's in the Jan. 4 raw interview.

On another note, I was reading up about body language and statement analysis (just a theory mind you - not a scientific fact):

When someone uses the word "normal" always flag it as sensitive. If a person says "I am normal" it is an indication that they have been held out to be "abnormal" as some point in life. When someone introduces a day as "normal", you can safely assume that it was anything but normal.

"like I said she was just sitting in the living room watching TV like a normal day... and she said, 'Shawn, I'm going....'

Really - what is a "normal" day. Do any of us have them? I sure don't

MOO and all that!

Mel

 

[LisaB]

My neice has "gauges" in her ears to stretch the holes, and my understanding is that you do not take each size out for at least 2 weeks, or until the initial holes are healed. I'm thinking if Hailey was interested in stretching the peircings in her ears, she would know not to take the earrings out, and wouldn't have. jmo....

Thanks for typing all that out. I've done it several times and I think a lot of people just skim the threads. If we had a forum there could be a thread just for red earrings.

 

[Faith&Hope]

RS&BBM

Now that my kids are older, and no longer experience the "Santa" part of Christmas.....I give them the majority of their gifts the day they start Christmas vacation. This gives them plenty of time to enjoy their gifts before school starts back up.

Billie's kids are basically the same age as mine, I could see her doing this. With that, saying she's had her tv that she got for Christmas for a week would make a lot of sense to me.

Yes - or they may have opened their presents at BD's early because they were going to be at CD's for Christmas/Boxing Day. Something I often did growing up with divorced parents....