UK UK - Three dead, arrest made in Exeter in suspected serial killing spree

[wtiger]

Looks like the facebook jury have already decided that he should be strung up!

Its a good job that people cannot physically reach through facebook YET

 

[Ellmau]

Thanks @wtiger.

 

[Ellmau]

Having been sectioned twice in the past (combined with the cannabis obsession on his facebook which won't have improved his mental state at all), I feel it is not impossible that he won't be found fit to plead.

 

[Legally Bland]

https://www.facebook.com/albyranwel...QNPu343ERukLYIKJhC9zN6X01JlK35THmZ39RHEj6CqLo

2nd attempt....this will be the social media account....i am struggling to get links to post!

Thanks for posting, I couldn't find his FB. 12th Feb was the day he was arrested, not sure this has any meaning:

Alby Ranwell
22 January at 19:56 ·
Looking for a road trip buddy who wants to go to the alps. Must have valid driving licence.

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    C### Z####### ideal I’m free after the 12th of feb
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[wtiger]

Dont imagine he will have many takers for that journey now!

Would be worse than a week at pontins!

 

[Cardgame]

https://www.facebook.com/albyranwell?__tn__=,dlC-R-R&eid=ARA0SP0dA4QMYSDJGFj-96PhKKiRCjpP1w-9zCVdc391gb6ll4V0GKr1b4YPG4lOPiJaSiVA4LDkuTMG&hc_ref=ARR-rTpw18yUdLRaO8E7WRQNPu343ERukLYIKJhC9zN6X01JlK35THmZ39RHEj6CqLo

2nd attempt....this will be the social media account....i am struggling to get links to post!

Where is the threatening message? I don't see it.

 

[Cardgame]

Just noticed this from the Devon live site:

"Police link the investigations based on the injuries suffered by the two men and 'common factors between the two address'"

Tributes continue to pour in for three murder victims as police remain on scene

 

[CoverMeCagney]

A 28-year-old man accused of murdering three men in their 80s is to stand trial in November.

Alexander Lewis-Ranwell is charged with the murders of twin brothers Dick and Roger Carter, 84, and Anthony Payne, 80, in Exeter, Devon.

They were found dead at their homes on 11 and 12 February.

Mr Lewis-Ranwell, who did not appear at the hearing at Exeter Crown Court, also faces two charges of causing grievous bodily harm with intent.

His trial has been set to start on 18 November.

Triple murder accused trial date set

 

[Legally Bland]

Trial has started. Either manslaughter by reason of diminished responsibility or not guilty by reason of insanity.

The 28-year-old denies the murders on grounds of insanity.

Prosecutor Richard Smith QC said: "Mr Lewis-Ranwell was suffering from delusions on the day of the killings that there was an organised paedophile ring that was holding and abusing children.

"His victims, he deludedly thought were somehow involved in that.

"The victims (were) of course not involved in any such thing."

[...]

It was agreed in court his level of responsibility was reduced because he was suffering from a serious mental disorder at the time.

Jurors were told they would have to decide if he was guilty of manslaughter or not guilty by reason of insanity.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-50492748​

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Thanks LB, you're so good at trial updates, I appreciate you every day

 

[Ellmau]

I thought this would be an insanity case. (Very sad for the victims.)

Is there actually much point in having a trial over whether it's manslaughter or murder? Won't he be sentenced to indefinite detention in a high security psychiatric institution regardless?

 

[jaejae]

Here is a Sky News report about these cases:

Man accused of killing three elderly men 'wrongly believed they were paedophiles'

 

[Legally Bland]

I haven't really been able to keep up with this trial, but I struggle with the distinction between 'manslaughter by diminished responsibility' and ' not guilty by reason of insanity'. I don't have a clear idea of where to draw the line. I assume (and hope) the jury are getting good instructions on this.

It seems fairly clear he shouldn't have been on the streets, but I'm not sure where the fault lies from what I've read (other than a general lack of funding for mental health care).

If he wasn't his taking anti-psych meds out of choice does this make him more responsible?

And he told police he'd 'lost his unicorn'. I'm struggling with that being genuine, it sounds more like he's just taking the piss.

Article about his arrests/releases in the hours leading up to the murders:
Mum of triple murder accused told police not to release son hours before deaths

 

[Legally Bland]

A man who killed three elderly men because he wrongly believed they were paedophiles has been cleared of murder.

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He was found not guilty by reason of insanity.

Triple killer not guilty of murder due to insanity

 

[CoverMeCagney]

A man who killed three elderly men because he wrongly believed they were paedophiles has been cleared of murder.

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He was found not guilty by reason of insanity.

Triple killer not guilty of murder due to insanity

In sentencing, Mrs Justice May described the case as "disturbing... on so many levels - three dead, two injured at hands of someone floridly psychic at the time and therefore not criminally responsible". She said she would be making a hospital order with restrictions to insure Lewis-Ranwell "won't be allowed into the community until agencies are absolutely content it is OK for him to be released".

I don't know much about this subject, but I assume it means he stays at Broadmoor (or similar) until such a time he is deemed safe to be released?

 

[jaejae]

Here is a Sky News report about this case:

Paranoid schizophrenic Alexander Lewis-Ranwell not guilty of murdering three pensioners

Here is report from the Independent:

Man who killed three pensioners found not guilty due to insanity

 

[jaejae]

Another report about this case:

The man who killed three times after police bailed him

Perhaps not the place but raises interesting points about mental health and insanity particularly the type that harms other people apart from the person with it. Serial Killers must be insane of course.