Identified! WA - Spokane, WhtFem 16-30, UP489, AKA "Millie", skull found in '98, Jun'84 - Ruth Belle Waymire

[Coffee56]

rsbm

Darlene Tucker is on the rule out list for "Millie" in NamUS

That’ll teach me to not log in and check.

 

[MadMcGoo]

I’ve been looking for possible Jane Does matching Deborah Ernandez’s description. She went missing from South Carolina with another young woman in 1983. There is no MP report for Deborah however, she is only mentioned on Mary’s (the other girl) NamUs profile. Someone posted a photo of Deborah on Mary’s thread and she looks a lot like Millie in my opinion. I’m not as familiar with Millie’s case though. Just wanted to mention Deborah for those of you who are more familiar...
SC - SC - Mary Elizabeth McMaster, 31, Winnsboro, 2 May 1983

 

[Bit of hope]

I’ve been looking for possible Jane Does matching Deborah Ernandez’s description. She went missing from South Carolina with another young woman in 1983. There is no MP report for Deborah however, she is only mentioned on Mary’s (the other girl) NamUs profile. Someone posted a photo of Deborah on Mary’s thread and she looks a lot like Millie in my opinion. I’m not as familiar with Millie’s case though. Just wanted to mention Deborah for those of you who are more familiar...
SC - SC - Mary Elizabeth McMaster, 31, Winnsboro, 2 May 1983

I took a look at the picture of Deborah you mentioned. If it's her I agree with you, she has a resemblance to "Millie". I can't see it very clear, but it looks like something "is going on" with her front teeth too. The posting person says the family filed a missing persons report at the Chester County SD in Chester, SC. I'm not sure it's allowed to post her picture here if there isn't a MP file to back it up.

Added: I see in Mary's threat the picture of Deborah is already posted there, so I think it's safe to put it up here. It's hard to see but does she have the distinctive moles...it look like it, but very vague.... Also "Millie" supposed to have given birth to a child, maybe two.....this is question mark. Deborah went missing in 1983, one child would be a possible if she was or got pregnant shortly after she went missing...but two? Did Deborah had a space between her front teeth?

 

[Ark]

Anyone looked in to Sherry Rail from over the border to the north:

531DFBC - Sherry Lynn Rail

I know there is no mention of a tattoo on the UID but for all we know it could have been scraped off.

 

[dotr]

I took a look at the picture of Deborah you mentioned. If it's her I agree with you, she has a resemblance to "Millie". I can't see it very clear, but it looks like something "is going on" with her front teeth too. The posting person says the family filed a missing persons report at the Chester County SD in Chester, SC. I'm not sure it's allowed to post her picture here if there isn't a MP file to back it up.

Added: I see in Mary's threat the picture of Deborah is already posted there, so I think it's safe to put it up here. It's hard to see but does she have the distinctive moles...it look like it, but very vague.... Also "Millie" supposed to have given birth to a child, maybe two.....this is question mark. Deborah went missing in 1983, one child would be a possible if she was or got pregnant shortly after she went missing...but two? Did Deborah had a space between her front teeth?

O/t sort of..
Just in case there is a serial killer who has been dismembering women, just want to mention Swedish nanny, Karina Holmer who was found dismembered a long way off in time and geography, because she shares a resemblance with Deborah. fwiw,imo, speculation.
Ws thread..
MA - MA - Karina Holmer, 20, Boston, 21 June 1996

SouthCoast Today

 

[YaYa_521]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Exclusions
-- Bjerky Verna 07/06/1981
MP8051 Judith ODonnell 11/30/1980 New York NY
MP869 Benita Chamberlin 02/23/1978 Lane OR
MP869 Benita Chamberlin 02/23/1978 Lane OR
MP35495 Sheila Pauley 09/01/1980 La Paz AZ
MP23787 Evelyn McDowell 01/19/1984 Yolo CA
MP18144 Anna Anderson 12/05/1983 Orange CA
MP33048 Sally Schneider 02/18/1984 Marin CA
MP2068 Gayla Schaper 06/29/1979 Latah ID
MP12184 Mary Ann Bagenstose 06/05/1984 Lancaster PA
-- Darlene Tucker
MP7958 Carol Edwards 01/02/1981 King WA
MP19747 Marcia Joyce 08/30/1978 Whatcom WA
MP5074 Wendy Huggy 04/07/1982 Pinellas FL
MP14129 Kase Lee 08/28/1982 King WA
MP14131 Kelly McGinniss 06/28/1983 King WA
MP10414 Kathryn Gregory 11/04/1981 Spokane WA
MP4998 Elaine Robertson 05/27/1979 Pierce WA
MP7127 Julia Kanol (Cannell) 11/13/1977 King WA
MP12230 Sharon Giusti 03/09/1963 Jefferson WA
MP2395 Joan Hall 09/30/1983 Clatsop OR
MP11810 Verla Winter 10/21/1968 King WA
MP5814 Andria Bailey 10/29/1979 Pierce WA
MP6022 Carol Donn 01/02/1981 Palm Beach FL
-- single severed hand found in Spokane County o -- -- WA
-- Helen Morgan -- -- GA

 

[MadMcGoo]

Refreshing the thread..

 

[folieadeuxnola]

**Following **
I would have thought this case would be one of the 1st to be picked up by one of the Forensic Genealogy Groups

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Exclusions
-- Bjerky Verna 07/06/1981
MP8051 Judith ODonnell 11/30/1980 New York NY
MP869 Benita Chamberlin 02/23/1978 Lane OR
MP869 Benita Chamberlin 02/23/1978 Lane OR
MP35495 Sheila Pauley 09/01/1980 La Paz AZ
MP23787 Evelyn McDowell 01/19/1984 Yolo CA
MP18144 Anna Anderson 12/05/1983 Orange CA
MP33048 Sally Schneider 02/18/1984 Marin CA
MP2068 Gayla Schaper 06/29/1979 Latah ID
MP12184 Mary Ann Bagenstose 06/05/1984 Lancaster PA
-- Darlene Tucker
MP7958 Carol Edwards 01/02/1981 King WA
MP19747 Marcia Joyce 08/30/1978 Whatcom WA
MP5074 Wendy Huggy 04/07/1982 Pinellas FL
MP14129 Kase Lee 08/28/1982 King WA
MP14131 Kelly McGinniss 06/28/1983 King WA
MP10414 Kathryn Gregory 11/04/1981 Spokane WA
MP4998 Elaine Robertson 05/27/1979 Pierce WA
MP7127 Julia Kanol (Cannell) 11/13/1977 King WA
MP12230 Sharon Giusti 03/09/1963 Jefferson WA
MP2395 Joan Hall 09/30/1983 Clatsop OR
MP11810 Verla Winter 10/21/1968 King WA
MP5814 Andria Bailey 10/29/1979 Pierce WA
MP6022 Carol Donn 01/02/1981 Palm Beach FL
-- single severed hand found in Spokane County o -- -- WA
-- Helen Morgan -- -- GA

I noticed an odd thing: It seems Helen Morgan has been removed from Millie's list of exclusions.

 

[Bit of hope]

I noticed an odd thing: It seems Helen Morgan has been removed from Millie's list of exclusions.

Strange...what could be the reason for that?

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

I noticed an odd thing: It seems Helen Morgan has been removed from Millie's list of exclusions.

Strange...what could be the reason for that?

It’s still there for me (see attached)

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

It’s still there for me (see attached)
View attachment 310688

Everything's in order, then Ms. Morgan didn't show for me, but that's probably an issue on my end. I wonder why she isn't listed with her NamUs, though.

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

Everything's in order, then Ms. Morgan didn't show for me, but that's probably an issue on my end. I wonder why she isn't listed with her NamUs, though.

Good catch! It’s doing the same thing to me, too.

 

[MadMcGoo]

Was Verna ever ruled out?

The Doe Network: Case File 3070DFBC

 

[inmyhumbleopinion]

Was Verna ever ruled out?

The Doe Network: Case File 3070DFBC

Appears to have been … (see attached).

 

[MadMcGoo]

Appears to have been … (see attached).
View attachment 310725

Thanks!

 

[Mrs. Badcrumble]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Exclusions
-- Bjerky Verna 07/06/1981
MP8051 Judith ODonnell 11/30/1980 New York NY
MP869 Benita Chamberlin 02/23/1978 Lane OR
MP869 Benita Chamberlin 02/23/1978 Lane OR
MP35495 Sheila Pauley 09/01/1980 La Paz AZ
MP23787 Evelyn McDowell 01/19/1984 Yolo CA
MP18144 Anna Anderson 12/05/1983 Orange CA
MP33048 Sally Schneider 02/18/1984 Marin CA
MP2068 Gayla Schaper 06/29/1979 Latah ID
MP12184 Mary Ann Bagenstose 06/05/1984 Lancaster PA
-- Darlene Tucker
MP7958 Carol Edwards 01/02/1981 King WA
MP19747 Marcia Joyce 08/30/1978 Whatcom WA
MP5074 Wendy Huggy 04/07/1982 Pinellas FL
MP14129 Kase Lee 08/28/1982 King WA
MP14131 Kelly McGinniss 06/28/1983 King WA
MP10414 Kathryn Gregory 11/04/1981 Spokane WA
MP4998 Elaine Robertson 05/27/1979 Pierce WA
MP7127 Julia Kanol (Cannell) 11/13/1977 King WA
MP12230 Sharon Giusti 03/09/1963 Jefferson WA
MP2395 Joan Hall 09/30/1983 Clatsop OR
MP11810 Verla Winter 10/21/1968 King WA
MP5814 Andria Bailey 10/29/1979 Pierce WA
MP6022 Carol Donn 01/02/1981 Palm Beach FL
-- single severed hand found in Spokane County o -- -- WA
-- Helen Morgan -- -- GA

MP8173
Christine Eastin
01/18/1971
Alameda
CA

has been added to the NamUs exclusions.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

296UFWA

 

[cvaldez1975]

the vacant lot is still there

Google Maps

 

[John/Jane Doe]

296UFWA