Cliff Hardy
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The defence's opening address would make a great script for a 'Get Smart' episode.
'Would you believe.....'
'Would you believe.....'
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Russell also told some other campers/hunters the previous week about the hunting accident in which someone close to Russell was killed. These campers/hunters were camped right alongside Russell. They said he was a great bloke.
I can completely understand having an aversion to guns being fired near a campground. I think I would find that very scary.
On some hunting forums I have read, they say it is really bad etiquette to do so.
IIRC there was talk about the number of deer carcasses from deer that had been killed close to the camp - when they were initially searching for Carol & Russell. Not as a pile of deer carcasses, but one every 50 metres or so.
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"On Wednesday, the court heard from deer hunters who met Hill while camping at King Billy No 2, a site near Mount Buller, on 12 March 2020.
Hill told them about the accidental shooting death ....."
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Greg Lynn trial: Russell Hill and Carol Clay in ‘loving relationship’ before alleged murder
Witnesses are giving evidence in trial of airline pilot who has pleaded not guilty to murdering Hill and Claywww.theguardian.com
Hmm Ok. Feels like its almost splitting hairs. So he is claiming the deaths were pure accidents completely. Interesting."Hill had his finger on the trigger during the struggle, according to the account Lynn gave police"
"Lynn told police that Hill then came at him with a knife, screaming “she’s dead”.
"There was another struggle that saw the knife go through the chest of Hill while they were on the ground, Lynn told police."
My point is, even Lynn says this story is true. Lynn verifies the other witnesses accounts that Hill lost someone to a gun and so was a stickler for the rules. And yet by the same token, Lynn is claiming that Hill removed a loaded gun from a strangers vehicle? That makes no sense.
I can ask around the family if this was it or not, not guaranteed an answer but I can try.Wondering if this is the accidental hunting death that Russell was referring to in these stories? Looks like it happened back in the 90s but the surname is the same - could have been his brother or a cousin maybe? Shot by his his nephew who was a professional shooter.
Widow's despair over park shooting
If Hill was really concerned that Lynn was breaking the law, he’d either take photographic evidence of the guns or call police on his radio or get out of there.
I think confiscating a dangerous weapon makes sense. It happens all the time.
From what I'm reading, it seems that Hill possibly captured Lynn in the act of using his firearm on video via his drone and may well have planned to give that to police.
However, it seems that Lynn tracked Hill down and confronted him. We have read here that Hill was not a person 'to back down' and I gather that Lynn was used to getting his own way so, if true, that combination of personalities would rather quickly generate friction to say the least.
Ive seen a few posts in various places from people who claim to know Lynn and they all describe him as a difficult character so it sounds like it was a perfect storm for conflict to occur. You would still expect better from men their age.From what I'm reading, it seems that Hill possibly captured Lynn in the act of using his firearm on video via his drone (and I guess may well have planned to give that to police).
However, it seems that Lynn tracked Hill down and confronted him. We have read here that Hill was not a person 'to back down' and I gather that Lynn was used to getting his own way so, if true, that combination of personalities would rather quickly generate friction to say the least.
I disagree, but let’s say that’s what happened.
Then Hill - in the dark - waves the gun around with his finger on the trigger despite him being concerned about gun safety. If he earlier confiscated the gun because he was so concerned this behaviour doesn’t match.
Lynn has approached the campsite to get his gun back and rather than simply handing it back, Hill refuses and waves it around? Lynn says he was scared sh!tless and took cover before trying to wrestle the gun off elderly Hill.
All of this seems very incongruous to me especially with Carol there.
I've just confirmed with my dad that this is in fact it. Gary Allen is right there in our family tree and his wife Rosalyn as referenced in the article, died September '94.Wondering if this is the accidental hunting death that Russell was referring to in these stories? Looks like it happened back in the 90s but the surname is the same - could have been his brother or a cousin maybe? Shot by his his nephew who was a professional shooter.
Widow's despair over park shooting
Even a dishonest story can have parts mixed with truth, its pretty common. The true part could be Hill did confiscate the gun which kicked off the conflict. if you don't trust someone with a gun, confiscating it makes logical sense. The claim of him being the trigger man could all be bs. Lynn could have tried to get the gun back and Hill tried to stop him with the knife and then Lynn stabbed him with it. What is your theory on what went down?
Close but not quite right.... Rob (his friend) contacted Robyn (Russell's wife) on Thursday after we had not heard Russell on our usual radio net since the previous Friday night(March 20th) saying that he thought she should report him missing to the police![]()
Broken love pact at centre of missing campers’ long affair
A Supreme Court jury has been taken inside the long-term affair between Russell Hill and Carol Clay .www.theage.com.au
This article seems to say that a friend contacted Russell's wife when Russell didn't meet him at a camp site, and should be reported missing. According to him, Russell's wife then asked him if Russell was camping with Carol Clay.
Behind a paywall, I think. Posting it here for those who subscribe.
Close but not quite right.... Rob (his friend) contacted Robyn (Russell's wife) on Thursday after we had not heard Russell on our usual radio net since the previous Friday night(March 20th) saying that he thought she should report him missing to the police
I've been keeping my head low... for obvious reasonsI’ve been thinking of you motomike!