Found Deceased Jay Slater, 19, missing on holiday in Tenerife, 17 June 2024

[GTB72]

I’m not alluding to anything, literally asking how we know that the 2 were older men?

Fair enough. I thought the way you worded it suggested otherwise. Apologies.

 

[Eyes-on]

Has anyone considered that he may have deliberately made himself a missing person to take himself out of a situation?

 

[JusticeDT]

Missing Jay Slater spotted 'walking alone' by Tenerife local before disappearing

Jay Slater, 19, vanished on Monday morning after going off with two other British men while out with friends on the island, where he had been holidaying for a three-day music festival

www.google.com

woman identified only as Araceli, who works in the business next to the rental property, stated: "I never saw the missing boy, but I know people saw him walking on his own. I saw the two British men who stayed here. They came in for cafe con leche a couple of times. One was aged about 40. The other one was slightly younger,"

 

[Firstsnow4]

I have noticed that if you search Jay Slater on Twitter now, it is filled with ‘onlyfans’ links. People using this story for their gain. What a sad state of affairs.

 

[BrianJohnson]

Has anyone considered that he may have deliberately made himself a missing person to take himself out of a situation?

Unlikely, unless he knows someone on the island what would he do for food/drink etc

 

[GTB72]

I'm still struggling to see why this case has be getting so much traction.

Personally - Occams Razor for me.

You're absolutely correct, imo. But the British media are always looking for a new angle.

 

[JusticeDT]

Inside the secluded Airbnb where missing Jay Slater stayed in Tenerife

Jay Slater, 19, from Lancashire, has not been seen or heard from since Monday morning and is believed to have stayed at the remote rented cottage, called Casa Abuela Tina, with people he met at a music festival

www.express.co.uk

 

[JusticeDT]

Lancashire Police offer support to Guardia Civil​

Lancashire Police have published a statement as the search for Jay continues.
It said

"First and foremost, our thoughts are with Jay's family at this time. They must be going through the most distressing ordeal not knowing what has happened to their loved one.
We have specialist officers who are continuing to support Jay's family.
Whilst this case falls outside the jurisdiction of UK policing, we have made an offer of support to the Guardia Civil to see if they need any additional resources. They have confirmed that at this time they are satisfied that they have the resources they need, but that offer remains open and they will contact us should that position change. Once again, our thoughts remain with Jay's family and friends at this distressing time.."

Jay Slater missing in Tenerife LIVE with police searching new areas

The 19-year-old has gone missing while on holiday on the Spanish island with his pals

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

 

[MissCluedo]

You're absolutely correct, imo. But the British media are always looking for a new angle.

Possibly I was thinking that angle at first until the history of the lad was rumoured to be linked to the Rishton Paper Mill Machete attack and then it opened a new angle for some.

 

[Winterbells]

We don't know the two men actually said it, the paper reports the female friend Lucy stated this

"Ms Law tracked down the villa and reportedly spoke to the two men he had been there with, the Times reported.

She said the men told her Mr Slater had gone for a cigarette before returning and said he wanted to go home. He reportedly turned down the men’s offers to drive him home later that morning, saying he would instead walk."

Missing teen Jay Slater captured dancing in nightclub video hours before vanishing

Rescuers have been scouring a 2,000-foot-deep ravine in a mountainous area of Tenerife, as family and friends in ‘living nightmare’

www.standard.co.uk

So the men were awake.
And apparently offered him a lift back, but 'later that morning'.
I'm not surprised Jay ended up lost. He's had no sleep, he's in a remote area, the bus times aren't clear (10 hours? 10 past something or other? in 10 minutes time?), traffic is on the opposite side of the road to what he's used to, it's not clear that in order to go downhill, you've got to walk uphill first (I think someone has said this), and does he even know he needs to head downhill? it was dark when he was being driven and he has no idea about the geography of the area, the roads appear to involve hairpin bends, so he may have tried to take a short cut down the steep, cactus-filled, rocky terrain, hence the injury and going back to the men isn't an option, given he's already rejected their offer of a lift (embarassing when you're a youngster) and anyway, he can't work out how to get back to their place. If only he'd managed to get back onto the actual road, surely there'd be another bus or a car he could hitch a lift from, or hikers or someone he could speak to for help. And then there's the dehydration...

 

[MissCluedo]

First time here
But I’m conflicted about the age of the 2 men that JS went back with. His family and friends keep referring to them as “lads” which to me suggests fairly young? Or is that not general consensus these days? Just a little confused as to whether maybe they just looked older than he did, so the lady quoted may have thought older, but the family/friends that know the situation might know they are younger than that?

Only asking because there’s quite a bit of suspicion because of their ages.

I've read one in his 30s and one in his 40s. Bit strange for men of that age to want to hang around a young man they barely know.
So perhaps he was of use to them.

This guy Jay is 19 right? When it was first reported it was saying he was 14 in many articles.

 

[MissCluedo]

I guess it must be the younger ones.
I have 3 sons but they are in their 20’s and early 30’s now but they have never had man bags.

It's an Essex thing with the young and older lads in there 30s and Northern youngsters do too. My friend just said it's more a chav thing
But I don't want to have to explain that word not trying to offend anyone. It's used a bit out of context.

 

[ShakerSince92]

I don't really understand the police investigation.
Jay is either voluntarily or involuntarily missing. (I believe he has got lost but you cannot rule anything out and have to keep an open mind). At some point the investigation to find him will have been risk assessed as high.
So my point is this, if the risk assessment is high, all options are being left open and there are some questions marks surrounding a teenager accompanying 2 grown men to an apartment miles away then why is that apartment and the nightclub not being treated as a potential crime scene?

 

[BrianJohnson]

I don't really understand the police investigation.
Jay is either voluntarily or involuntarily missing. (I believe he has got lost but you cannot rule anything out and have to keep an open mind). At some point the investigation to find him will have been risk assessed as high.
So my point is this, if the risk assessment is high, all options are being left open and there are some questions marks surrounding a teenager accompanying 2 grown men to an apartment miles away then why is that apartment and the nightclub not being treated as a potential crime scene?

The police have already interviewed the 2 older guys, they were satisfied that neither are a suspect and were allowed to leave the country, Jay left the property voluntarily that morning, he was seen by a local walking alone on foot, they have nothing to do with his disappearance

 

[MissCluedo]

I don't really understand the police investigation.
Jay is either voluntarily or involuntarily missing. (I believe he has got lost but you cannot rule anything out and have to keep an open mind). At some point the investigation to find him will have been risk assessed as high.
So my point is this, if the risk assessment is high, all options are being left open and there are some questions marks surrounding a teenager accompanying 2 grown men to an apartment miles away then why is that apartment and the nightclub not being treated as a potential crime scene?

I would've thought they would need to prove there was a reason to treat it as a crime scene. But there's no evidence at all that there is a crime.

 

[Kye Zeeb]

I've read one in his 30s and one in his 40s. Bit strange for men of that age to want to hang around a young man they barely know.
So perhaps he was of use to them.

This guy Jay is 19 right? When it was first reported it was saying he was 14 in many articles.

This is pure speculation on my part, JMO, but could be a possibility for what happened. People under the influence of drink/drugs can "black out" while still walking/talking/functioning. What if JS had this happen to him and became fully aware only in the morning at the Air b'n'b, with two unfamiliar, older men. He could have panicked, not knowing what happened the night before, how he got there and what the two men may or may not have done with or without consent. Even if nothing untoward happened, the perception that something MAY have happened could be enough to make him want to get out of there/as far away as he could as soon as possible. Panic can make people do irrational things.

 

[GTB72]

I don't really understand the police investigation.
Jay is either voluntarily or involuntarily missing. (I believe he has got lost but you cannot rule anything out and have to keep an open mind). At some point the investigation to find him will have been risk assessed as high.
So my point is this, if the risk assessment is high, all options are being left open and there are some questions marks surrounding a teenager accompanying 2 grown men to an apartment miles away then why is that apartment and the nightclub not being treated as a potential crime scene?

If the Police genuinely suspected the two men Jay went back with to Masca, why would they be allowed to leave the island?

 

[ShakerSince92]

I would've thought they would need to prove there was a reason to treat it as a crime scene. But there's no evidence at all that there is a crime.

I honestly don't know in Spain but there are certainly questions that I would want answering before being 100 percent certain of anything. Imagine Jay was to be found with unexplained injuries and any potential forensic evidence from the apartment was lost because 2 sets of families have stayed in it?

 

[Winterbells]

The police have already interviewed the 2 older guys, they were satisfied that neither are a suspect and were allowed to leave the country, Jay left the property voluntarily that morning, he was seen by a local walking alone on foot, they have nothing to do with his disappearance

I don't think they can be written off that quickly.
The Spanish police must have had no legitimate grounds for preventing them from leaving the country. That's as much as we know. We don't know if anything happened in that property that made Jay exit the apartment 'to have a cigarette', refuse a lift 'later that morning', ask, not the men themselves, but the neighbour, about the bus times, then, rather than stand at the bus stop in full view of the apartment in hopes that another would come along, decide to get away from the area altogether on foot, and then ring his friends.

 

[ShakerSince92]

If the Police genuinely suspected the two men Jay went back with to Masca, why would they be allowed to leave the island?

I doubt they have any evidence or grounds to keep them but things can always change and all evidence should be secured at every opportunity for every eventuality. Once forensic evidence is gone it's gone.