TX- Jocelyn Nungaray,12 strangled, left under bridge. Houston June 17, 2024

[Dotta]

"Laying her to rest​

During Thursday's celebration of life service,
one of Jocelyn's favorite songs,
'Coney Island Baby', flowed through the crowded room
as a slideshow of her life played.

The song is from the 1960s and way before her time,
but it fit Jocelyn's eclectic music tastes.

Stories emerged about Jocelyn and her sister making slime together and watching sunsets,
reminding the room of a life lost too soon.

Her great-aunt broke down in tears,
but she stirred some laughs when she talked about Jossy's love for books.

'Jossy loved to read.
Anytime we were at Walmart or any store,
that girl would try to beeline for the book section all day, every day',
she said."

Rest in Peace.

What we know about the two Venezuelan men accused of killing 12-year-old Jocelyn Nungaray

Twelve-year-old Jocelyn Nungaray was walking to a convenience store in Houston, Texas, when she disappeared...

www.9news.com.au

 

[Kittypoo]

You may be correct. There are slick ways to side step the kidnapping charge. JN is not here to offer her side of the story. It appeared she went willingly with them at first. Perhaps they offered to walk her home. Once under the bridge, their true intent came to light. The creeps can say anything they want. They will try to say she was there willingly and that they thought she was older. In the end, I believe evidence will expose their lies and justice will eventually be served.

I’m not excusing them by absolutely by any stretch and what they have allegedly done is abhorrent. Girls these days do look so much older and the fact she was out alone at midnight I do wonder if they thought JN was older.
They were here illegally shouldn’t have even happened at all

 

[salamanderqueeftp]

I’m not excusing them by absolutely by any stretch and what they have allegedly done is abhorrent. Girls these days do look so much older and the fact she was out alone at midnight I do wonder if they thought JN was older.
They were here illegally shouldn’t have even happened at all

They tied her up, raped her, and then strangled her. WHY would it matter if they thought she was older? It doesn't matter how old she looked.

 

[JoeFromLB]

I think people are simply trying to comprehend how this horrific thing could have happened. Their possible perception of her age is irrelevant though, since there are plenty of monsters who are attracted to young girls and are driven to violate and kill them.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1806765090991149362

 

[kaen]

I’m not excusing them by absolutely by any stretch and what they have allegedly done is abhorrent. Girls these days do look so much older and the fact she was out alone at midnight I do wonder if they thought JN was older.
They were here illegally shouldn’t have even happened at all

The idea of older or younger is not a point to discuss. Even if a woman in her twenties went to the bridge with these monsters, she would not have been any less a victim even if she had agreed to do something for money. At some point when the situation moves from consensual (in the case of an adult or sex worker) to having someone restrain you---- it is a crime, plain and simple. The monster said he was going to finish what he started. And he did.

Sometimes here we discuss that a person was beautiful or pretty. Again the issue is not what one looks like. These crimes are not sex crimes but crimes of power over that are focused on taking someone's choice of consent away.

Plenty of crimes of power over happen to people everyday with people who are citizens and non-citizens.

At any rate, they will spend the rest of their lives in prison, on death row or gen pop.

I ache for Jocelyn and any other victims of these types of crimes. The terror and last person they saw is haunting.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Not much of a "bonus" here, but if the victim's family is undocumented, they are eligible for a USCIS program for families and victims of crime in the United States. The victim is dead, but they can get a waiver.

Victims of Criminal Activity: U Nonimmigrant Status | USCIS

www.uscis.gov

Nothing to suggest that they are illegals. moo

 

[katydid23]

We have seen a few 12 yr old victims in past few days. I've always worried about the safety of 11/12/13 yr olds because it is such a vulnerable age as they are just becoming old enough to have a little freedom. I used to let my middle schoolers walk to the corner market, ride their bikes or skate board around, walk our dog, etc.

But with that freedom, they are still little kids in terms of experience and usually have very little street smarts. They want to be full fledged teens and feel grown up, so they will answer a stranger who asked for directions , or make small talk with an older teen, because they want to feel in control, etc. But they are still babies in many ways.

 

[notafighter]

Her obituary and service make her seem like such a sweet and caring girl, just coming to terms with herself. May this beloved girl rest in eternal paradise.

Girls these days do look so much older and the fact she was out alone at midnight I do wonder if they thought JN was older.

IMO the photos of JN at the convenience store make her look maybe 15 at the oldest. She was a little thin and appeared fresh faced, still very much a child to me. I can imagine her perhaps telling them her age when they started to get hostile with her, as a means to leave her alone. Something I would do at her age. MOO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

One of the roommates told police he was watching the news with the two men when he saw the images. The roommate texted his cousin in Laredo, saying he couldn't talk about it out loud as Peña and Martinez-Rangel were in the room with him and would hear him. The cousin reached out to HPD and the roommate made an excuse to leave the apartment and was picked up by police.

The night before Jocelyn was killed, June 16, the roommate told police he was not yet living with the men. He said he had gone out for food with them and went home at around 10 p.m., but Peña and Martinez-Rangel had stayed out. When he got home, he learned his landlord was kicking him out. The next day, the two men invited him to stay with them and help pay rent. He saw the news report on June 18.

According to court documents, another man was living in the apartment - the boss of one of the accused. The boss told police Peña had confided in him on June 19 that the two "had made a mistake after partying on Sunday night and had hurt someone," the warrant reads.

Man accused of killing 12-year-old Jocelyn Nungaray confided in boss, court documents say

Court documents say two roommates of the men accused of killing the 12-year-old girl went to police separately after seeing surveillance images of the suspects.

www.khou.com

 

[scapa]

One of the roommates told police he was watching the news with the two men when he saw the images. The roommate texted his cousin in Laredo, saying he couldn't talk about it out loud as Peña and Martinez-Rangel were in the room with him and would hear him. The cousin reached out to HPD and the roommate made an excuse to leave the apartment and was picked up by police.

The night before Jocelyn was killed, June 16, the roommate told police he was not yet living with the men. He said he had gone out for food with them and went home at around 10 p.m., but Peña and Martinez-Rangel had stayed out. When he got home, he learned his landlord was kicking him out. The next day, the two men invited him to stay with them and help pay rent. He saw the news report on June 18.

According to court documents, another man was living in the apartment - the boss of one of the accused. The boss told police Peña had confided in him on June 19 that the two "had made a mistake after partying on Sunday night and had hurt someone," the warrant reads.

Man accused of killing 12-year-old Jocelyn Nungaray confided in boss, court documents say

Court documents say two roommates of the men accused of killing the 12-year-old girl went to police separately after seeing surveillance images of the suspects.

www.khou.com

Good on those roommates. Did the right thing at, I imagine, some significant risk.

This rash of crimes against kids has me doing that sad, hard thing that many do, I suspect -- counting the ages of one's own children and finding new ways to worry all over again. Jocelyn was clearly a very special young woman. This is a cruel one.

 

[Kittypoo]

Nothing to suggest that they are illegals. moo

I’m not sure if this relates to my post but I was referring to the perpetrators

 

[Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc]

DBM - I misread.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807816444664524927

 

[atomicsciencegal]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807816444664524927

I think none of us are surprised by this.

 

[Dotta]

I think none of us are surprised by this.

Officially confirmed tests
mean
potentially opening up her alleged killers to the death penalty.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807816444664524927

Knew it. Hate it.

If it implicated both of them, we know what we can do about credibility of either of them.

So sad for Jocelyn's momma and loved ones. May Jocekyn be remembered for her life and not the evil done to her in the last two hours of her life.

And, as for the two men arrested, may they be remembered for nothing but those two hours. And sentenced accordingly. Every single minute of it.

Brutal, sustained attack on a defenseless child by two grown men.

Frankly, there isn't punishment enough.

JMO

 

[Dotta]

"Jocelyn Nungaray, 12, ​

was raped on night of murder,​

Houston authorities confirm,​

making the two illegal immigrants charged in her death ​

eligible for the death penalty."​

Jocelyn Nungaray was raped by illegal immigrants, lab tests confirm

The two illegal immigrants accused of killing Jocelyn Nungaray, 12, are now eligible for the death penalty after lab tests confirm she was raped.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[PrairieWind]

Officially confirmed tests
mean
potentially opening up her alleged killers to the death penalty.

JMO

Yep. DA Ogg has run out of excuses to not treat this as a death case.

 

[Yuletide]

These two represent the worst of the worst. The death penalty is appropriate but in my humble opinion not nearly enough penalty for what they have done.